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  • galleryseek
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    • Mar 2002
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    #151
    Originally posted by Rich
    Wow this galleryseek guy is a real moron. Let me see if I have this strait, after about 2 sentences I have to stop reading his bs posts because my brain starts to hurt.

    galleryseek is saying there should be a REQUIRED course to teach people about marijuana if it were to be legalized.

    Detoxed tells him it's a stupid idea, which it clearly is.

    galleryseek says, prove me wrong by showing me such a course with a proven high failure rate?

    Ok am I taking crazy pills or is galleryseek one stupid, stupid motherfucker? I must be missing something.

    His idea is too stupid for any rational person to even conceive, yet he's asking for a failed example of such a course to prove that his idea is stupid?

    Wow.
    uh are you fucking stupid man? lol... the IQ level of your average GFY'er must be very fucking low, god damn.

    All you did was just bash me and back nothing up.

    Yes, it can be concluded that I would be proven WRONG if there were other similar attempts at "awareness" education that yielded no results.

    What is so STUPID about that?!?!?!?! It's called logic, try using it sometime.

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      • freeadultcontent
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        #152
        Originally posted by galleryseek
        uh are you fucking stupid man? lol... the IQ level of your average GFY'er must be very fucking low, god damn.

        All you did was just bash me and back nothing up.

        Yes, it can be concluded that I would be proven WRONG if there were other similar attempts at "awareness" education that yielded no results.

        What is so STUPID about that?!?!?!?! It's called logic, try using it sometime.
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          • detoxed
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            • Jan 2003
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            #153
            Originally posted by Matt 26z
            The future of regular cigarettes are in question. Do you honestly think you'll be buying a pack of joints at the 7-11 in your lifetime?

            Use some common sense, morons.

            I never said it would happen, I might want it to happen, but I'm not dumb enough to think its going to happen that way. It will however be legalized within my lifetime.

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              • detoxed
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                #154
                Originally posted by galleryseek
                uh are you fucking stupid man? lol... the IQ level of your average GFY'er must be very fucking low, god damn.
                You are dragging us all down with you

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                  • detoxed
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                    #155
                    Want a failure example? Classes required for people who get DUI's. When you get a DUI you have to go to a class, usually several hours. Want stats on why its a failure?


                    "1.5 million people are arrested for DUI/DWI offenses each year and approximately 33% of these have at least one previous conviction. These multiple offenders create unique challenges for agencies because alcohol-related crimes require effective supervision, education and treatment. "


                    33% do it again. And thats just the # who get caught.




                    The people who would attend a marijuana class would be the ones wanting to smoke marijuana under your example. You think some stupid class is going to change their mind? They will sit through it, maybe sleep through it, and get their certificate and go buy some pot. Maybe 1% will change their mind. Who is going to pay for this class? Etc. Etc. Etc, its a fucking dumb idea.
                    Last edited by detoxed; 08-18-2004, 03:04 PM.

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                      • galleryseek
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                        #156
                        Originally posted by detoxed
                        Want a failure example? Classes required for people who get DUI's. When you get a DUI you have to go to a class, usually several hours. Want stats on why its a failure?


                        "1.5 million people are arrested for DUI/DWI offenses each year and approximately 33% of these have at least one previous conviction. These multiple offenders create unique challenges for agencies because alcohol-related crimes require effective supervision, education and treatment. "


                        33% do it again. And thats just the # who get caught.




                        The people who would attend a marijuana class would be the ones wanting to smoke marijuana under your example. You think some stupid class is going to change their mind? They will sit through it, maybe sleep through it, and get their certificate and go buy some pot. Maybe 1% will change their mind. Who is going to pay for this class? Etc. Etc. Etc, its a fucking dumb idea.
                        oh, it's such a fucking dumb idea because it wouldn't have a 100% success rate? It'd be much more than 1% i can guarantee you that. And although it may not detur people, it might really limit the amount in which they consume which is a positive benefit.


                        your DUI example is too off topic. people who get DUI's are breaking the law intentionally without regard to safety... they're the ones that usually don't give a fuck regardless of "new information"

                        I'm sorry but just because you want everyone to smoke pot and don't want to believe that smoking pot isn't bad for you, doesn't mean you should continue to argue this.

                        I'm all for education and knowledge, clearly. You on the other hand simply just don't give a fuck. nice attitude bud.

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                          • detoxed
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                            #157
                            Originally posted by galleryseek
                            oh, it's such a fucking dumb idea because it wouldn't have a 100% success rate? It'd be much more than 1% i can guarantee you that. And although it may not detur people, it might really limit the amount in which they consume which is a positive benefit.


                            your DUI example is too off topic. people who get DUI's are breaking the law intentionally without regard to safety... they're the ones that usually don't give a fuck regardless of "new information"

                            I'm sorry but just because you want everyone to smoke pot and don't want to believe that smoking pot isn't bad for you, doesn't mean you should continue to argue this.

                            I'm all for education and knowledge, clearly. You on the other hand simply just don't give a fuck. nice attitude bud.

                            Lol, I give a perfect example and you say its not good enough. Your idea was stupid to begin with but I played along. Now I'm done, when you come up with something intelligent to say let me know. I'm all for education and knowledge too, but you cant force it upon someone by making them take a class, which would be given by people who constantly lie about the subject.

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                              • galleryseek
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                                #158
                                Originally posted by detoxed
                                Lol, I give a perfect example and you say its not good enough. Your idea was stupid to begin with but I played along. Now I'm done, when you come up with something intelligent to say let me know. I'm all for education and knowledge too, but you cant force it upon someone by making them take a class, which would be given by people who constantly lie about the subject.
                                It was very very very far from perfect. And your pot-damaged brain must've made you forgot that I said it should be created not from just the government, but with a proven statistical foundation.

                                Pot is bad for you, BOTTOM LINE.. don't compare it to other things, that's just stupid...

                                Raising people's awareness is hardly a ridiculous idea and would only produce positive results.

                                Thank you and good game.

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                                  • Mikey_219Inc
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                                    • Jun 2003
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                                    #159
                                    whoever voted no, go fuck yourself get drunk and continue to be an asshole.

                                    i dont even smoke weed anymore but its ridiculous the tax money spent on the war on this harmless drug.

                                    maybe some of that money could go to intelligence? we seem to need some ...

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                                      • detoxed
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                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by galleryseek
                                        It was very very very far from perfect. And your pot-damaged brain must've made you forgot that I said it should be created not from just the government, but with a proven statistical foundation.

                                        Pot is bad for you, BOTTOM LINE.. don't compare it to other things, that's just stupid...

                                        Raising people's awareness is hardly a ridiculous idea and would only produce positive results.

                                        Thank you and good game.

                                        A mandatory class is much more than raising awareness you fucking moron. A proven statistical foundation? LOL

                                        Its a ridiculous and stupid idea. You are dumb. Your thoughts are irrational and make no sense.

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                                          • Living For Today
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                                            • Feb 2002
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                                            #161
                                            I dont think it should be legalised. If you want it in Australia that badly you know where to go where the law will turn a blind eye so you've gotta be a fuckup to get caught anyway.

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                                              • galleryseek
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                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by detoxed
                                                A mandatory class is much more than raising awareness you fucking moron. A proven statistical foundation? LOL

                                                Its a ridiculous and stupid idea. You are dumb. Your thoughts are irrational and make no sense.
                                                How is it much more than raising awareness? lol. People are lazy as fuck and don't want to learn, you said it yourself, if they want to do something they should know every aspect of it, therefore creating something mandatory to inform them sounds like a very logical and reasonable idea to me. Why not you?

                                                education and knowledge are sooooo totally irrational and stupid? wow.

                                                You have the typical mentality of a pothead.

                                                Pointless in arguing with you.

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                                                  • mardigras
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                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by bringer
                                                    yes but it'll never happen. you cant regulate or tax something thats as simple to grow as pot.
                                                    People are lazy. You can grow all of your own food but most people are going to pick everything up at the store. You could make your own booze, but very few people do that.
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                                                      • trigger_bucks
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                                                        #164
                                                        the fact of the matter is, cigarettes and alcohol are proven to kill more people than pot ever has or ever will. the only fact that pot isn't legal is because the governent hasn't prodcutize it yet. driving on alcohol and driving on pot are like night and day...how many times do you hear about a stoned dude on the news hitting someone...never...but you hear about drunks killing people daily. I am quite sure that there are almost as many people smoking dope as there are drinking. The diference is that the pot smokers are too lazy to get in their car and go anywhere. So the way I see it, much safer all around.
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                                                          • detoxed
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                                                            #165
                                                            Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                            How is it much more than raising awareness? lol. People are lazy as fuck and don't want to learn, you said it yourself, if they want to do something they should know every aspect of it, therefore creating something mandatory to inform them sounds like a very logical and reasonable idea to me. Why not you?

                                                            education and knowledge are sooooo totally irrational and stupid? wow.

                                                            You have the typical mentality of a pothead.

                                                            Pointless in arguing with you.

                                                            I havent smoked pot in over a month. You are the moron here. I never said education and knowledge are soooo totally irrational and stupid. You said that I said that. I never said if they want to do something they should know every aspect of it. You said I said that. You cant see how a mandatory class is much more than raising awareness? A TV commercial is raising awareness. A warning on a pack of cigarettes is raising awareness. Moron.

                                                            You have the typical mentality of a mildly retarded individual.

                                                            Pointless in arguing with you.
                                                            Pointless in arguing with you.
                                                            Last edited by detoxed; 08-18-2004, 04:21 PM.

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                                                              • maxsweet
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                                                                #166
                                                                I just know in my neighbourhood we now have a cafe open with 8 - 12 different strains on the menu.

                                                                Been over 6 months with no harrassment or media attention. So PLEASE don't tell anyone

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                                                                  • mardigras
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                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by trigger_bucks
                                                                    the only fact that pot isn't legal is because the governent hasn't prodcutize it yet.
                                                                    This is the farthest thing from the truth. The government pulled the plug on an incredible amount of hemp/marijuana products back in the 30's led by lobbiests for Dupont, who synthetically produced many of the items formerly from hemp. The government realized it's mistake during WWII...

                                                                    http://www.crrh.org/hemptv/docs_victory.html

                                                                    "Hemp for Victory" by the US Government, 1943, 14 minutes.
                                                                    The US government's propaganda piece to restore hemp to help the war effort in World War II. After wiping out the hemp industry and agriculture both before and during the Great Depression, and with federal "marijuana" prohibition implemented in 1937 to help the petrochemical industry, cotton-growing states, and others, US need for fiber during WW II forces the USDA to re-introduce hemp to farmers with this film in 1943.
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                                                                      • galleryseek
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                                                                        #168
                                                                        Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                        I havent smoked pot in over a month. You are the moron here. I never said education and knowledge are soooo totally irrational and stupid. You said that I said that. I never said if they want to do something they should know every aspect of it. You said I said that. You cant see how a mandatory class is much more than raising awareness? A TV commercial is raising awareness. A warning on a pack of cigarettes is raising awareness. Moron.

                                                                        You have the typical mentality of a mildly retarded individual.

                                                                        Pointless in arguing with you.
                                                                        Pointless in arguing with you.
                                                                        haha, you haven't smoked in a month? apparently your brain is fried then.

                                                                        Raising awareness isn't only LIMITED to passive methods. "Raising awareness" is a very general and broad topic. You can raise awareness through mandatory classes einstein.

                                                                        sheesh. amazing.

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                                                                          • detoxed
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                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                            haha, you haven't smoked in a month? apparently your brain is fried then.

                                                                            Raising awareness isn't only LIMITED to passive methods. "Raising awareness" is a very general and broad topic. You can raise awareness through mandatory classes einstein.

                                                                            sheesh. amazing.

                                                                            Apparently you are missing the point. MANDATORY CLASSES ARE MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE THAN JUST RAISING AWARENESS. I never said you cannot raise awareness through mandatory classes dipshit. Your reading comprehension skills are shit. Maybe smoking pot would help you.
                                                                            Last edited by detoxed; 08-18-2004, 05:16 PM.

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                                                                              • retrograde
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                                                                                #170
                                                                                Legalize it, tax it, and improve education or healthcare with all the money you'll make from both the tax and the millions saved on prison construction.

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                                                                                  • freeadultcontent
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                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Originally posted by retrograde
                                                                                    Legalize it, tax it, and improve education or healthcare with all the money you'll make from both the tax and the millions saved on prison construction.
                                                                                    Please read my first post in this thread.

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                                                                                      • detoxed
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                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        What was I going to say? Oh yeah... bump

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                                                                                          • freeadultcontent
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                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                            What was I going to say? Oh yeah... bump
                                                                                            Most ignore my posts, or just wont fight em. Makes this not so fun.

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                                                                                              • detoxed
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                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                                                                                                Most ignore my posts, or just wont fight em. Makes this not so fun.

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                                                                                                  • retrograde
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                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                                                                                                    Please read my first post in this thread.
                                                                                                    I missed your post the first time I skimmed through. You made some very excellent points.

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                                                                                                      • CET
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                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                                                        Of course there is a very brief and general understanding that alochol, fast food, and pot isn't exactly HEALTHY, but none the less the large majority who "use" aren't sufficiently informed.
                                                                                                        That is certainly true for fast food, but both alcohol and pot are healthy if used in moderation. What you're refering to is abuse, which is unhealthy no matter what you're talking about. Excessive drinking of water can be deadly.
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                                                                                                          • CET
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                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                                                            oh, it's such a fucking dumb idea because it wouldn't have a 100% success rate? It'd be much more than 1% i can guarantee you that. And although it may not detur people, it might really limit the amount in which they consume which is a positive benefit.
                                                                                                            I doubt it would detour anyone. Consider DARE. Ever since that program started, drug use is up and there is no data that DARE has done anything to decrease druge use.
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                                                                                                              • CET
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                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                                                                                                                Most ignore my posts, or just wont fight em. Makes this not so fun.
                                                                                                                Me too, but I'll just take that to mean that my arugments are bullet proof.
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                                                                                                                  • CET
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                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by retrograde
                                                                                                                    Legalize it, tax it, and improve education or healthcare with all the money you'll make from both the tax and the millions saved on prison construction.
                                                                                                                    My problem with that is the assumption that our lack of performance in these areas is due to a lack of funding. Between just porkbarrelling and what it takes to run the IRS, 1/3 of our tax money is already spent. Then consider all the bullshit programs, bureaucracies, and departments that exist with no reason to exist.

                                                                                                                    Case in point, the newly formed Department of Homeland Security. All they need to do is merge the FBI and CIA into once department, and divide it into small departments based on internal or extrenal intelligence and have regular communication flow and unified management. Poof, DHS is obsolete and the redundant bureaucrats can be cut out to produce a leaner and more efficienet intelligence and security department. Heck, if you made this department related to the military, that would increase communication, cooperative efforts, military intelligence and reduce even more redunancies to make an even leaner department.
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                                                                                                                      • galleryseek
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                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by CET
                                                                                                                        That is certainly true for fast food, but both alcohol and pot are healthy if used in moderation.
                                                                                                                        ROFL

                                                                                                                        I'd LOVE to know where you got your information. Please, tell me now.

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                                                                                                                          • galleryseek
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                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by CET
                                                                                                                            I doubt it would detour anyone. Consider DARE. Ever since that program started, drug use is up and there is no data that DARE has done anything to decrease druge use.
                                                                                                                            DARE was fucking stupid, I went through it. It focuses towards youngsters who have the attention span of a monkey in which all information is usually forgotten by highschool freshman year.

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                                                                                                                              • galleryseek
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                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                                                                Apparently you are missing the point. MANDATORY CLASSES ARE MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE THAN JUST RAISING AWARENESS. I never said you cannot raise awareness through mandatory classes dipshit. Your reading comprehension skills are shit. Maybe smoking pot would help you.
                                                                                                                                dude your mind has been destroyed.


                                                                                                                                Mandatory Classes, and Raising Awareness are two seperate levels.

                                                                                                                                Mandatory Classing is a MEANS/METHOD/TECHNIQUE by which raising awareness is achieved.

                                                                                                                                Here's an analogy for ya.

                                                                                                                                Raising Awareness = A car
                                                                                                                                Mandatory Classing = The Fuel

                                                                                                                                There are different grades of fuel, such as TV ads, Books, Classing, etc etc...

                                                                                                                                So how can "mandatory classes be much much more than raising awareness"? You're comparing apples n' oranges.

                                                                                                                                you can't compare the two bud. sorry.

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                                                                                                                                  • galleryseek
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                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                                                                                    ROFL

                                                                                                                                    I'd LOVE to know where you got your information. Please, tell me now.
                                                                                                                                    I stand corrected with some research, although I didn't find anything relevant to smoking pot being beneficial aside from it helping those who have medical conditions.

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                                                                                                                                      • detoxed
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                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                                                                                        am I under the wrong impression, or is it a fact that the majority of people who smoke pot on a routine basis are generally those who're of the lower income brackets, and ultimately are less motivated than others who don't smoke?

                                                                                                                                        and it's in the nation's best interest that people ...try... to contribute to society. right?
                                                                                                                                        Yes you are wrong. Very wrong. Get it?

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                                                                                                                                          • detoxed
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                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                                                                                            dude your mind has been destroyed.


                                                                                                                                            Mandatory Classes, and Raising Awareness are two seperate levels.

                                                                                                                                            Mandatory Classing is a MEANS/METHOD/TECHNIQUE by which raising awareness is achieved.

                                                                                                                                            Here's an analogy for ya.

                                                                                                                                            Raising Awareness = A car
                                                                                                                                            Mandatory Classing = The Fuel

                                                                                                                                            There are different grades of fuel, such as TV ads, Books, Classing, etc etc...

                                                                                                                                            So how can "mandatory classes be much much more than raising awareness"? You're comparing apples n' oranges.

                                                                                                                                            you can't compare the two bud. sorry.
                                                                                                                                            DUDE! Of course they are two different levels. BUT YOU WERE SAYING CLASSES SHOULD BE MANDATORY, THEN SAYING the reason for the classes WAS TO RAISE AWARENESS

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                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                                                                                                                                    Yes, there will be less profits for criminals
                                                                                                                                                    No I think the government would make more money

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                                                                                                                                                            The best thing about this thread continues to be Galleryseek digging that hole deeper and deeper and not having the intelligence to realise. Far too funny.

                                                                                                                                                            As for the original post it really is a no-brainer. No rational and intelligent person can argue for weed to continue to be illegal in a society where alchohol and tobacco are not just available but heavily promoted.
                                                                                                                                                            Ignorance is never bliss.

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