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Old 08-15-2004, 07:30 PM   #51
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Old 08-15-2004, 07:30 PM   #52
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Sounds like the club is a lot at fault too.

If they let in the public as early as 11:00PM to a private webmaster event then fuck them, ya'll should get a refund.

How many random fucks I wonder were partaking of all of the goodies meant for affiliates?

I remember the lightspeed suite parties in phoenix and I would say at least 50% of the people there (towards midway thru) had nothing to do with the business.

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Sounds like the club is a lot at fault too.

If they let in the public as early as 11:00PM to a private webmaster event then fuck them, ya'll should get a refund.

How many random fucks I wonder were partaking of all of the goodies meant for affiliates?
xbiz can go after club, sponsors should go after xbiz.
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Yes, I totally agree.
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Old 08-15-2004, 08:17 PM   #57
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I wonder how much was actually spent on the event vs. how much was pocketed. Sounds like it was just an easy payday for them.
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Old 08-15-2004, 08:25 PM   #58
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I wonder how much was actually spent on the event vs. how much was pocketed. Sounds like it was just an easy payday for them.
exactly
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Sounds like the club is a lot at fault too.

If they let in the public as early as 11:00PM to a private webmaster event then fuck them, ya'll should get a refund.

How many random fucks I wonder were partaking of all of the goodies meant for affiliates?

Well, I've been screwed by venues that tell you what you want to hear before the party starts, then they a private VIP roped off for their people, when their people weren't allowed in the club let alone taking up VIP space and offending my VIP's when they'd flash their pass and get turned down. It happened in South Beach at the Shadow Lounge. Great Players Ball (1999), huge crowd for the venue, 90% mostly webmasters, some local chicks imported which I asked for, and that extra 50 guests that were friends of the owner in a private section.

Other venues have security looking for their tips from regular clients, they'll take the money and deal with any complaints from the promoters, they don't care, they want money. Miami is a tough place to get a venue 100% yours on a Saturday night. They'd charge thousands and thousands for that because they'd have to give up that guaranteed money. So the way parties get screwed is when you let them have ANY outsiders. I'm sure for a bar like that it would cost a guaranteed $50k to $100k to get it 100% exclusive for your own guests.

Anyway, I've got to cut Eroticafest some slack in that respects, you never really know the inner dealings that take place in advance. I've had my shit together with the management and security teams, even hired my own security staff to over see theirs and had problems still (C2K Vegas). Vegas and Miami are 2 of the hardest cities to get an exclusive deal on a venue during the weekend.

I've heard from a few people they had a blast, so I'm sure maybe we're just hearing the bad before the good, it's early still. Did 5% of the webmasters get turned down? Or 80%? It's too early to get a measure yet. Most reasons sound like it's due to dressing in shorts and stuff.
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Every convention somebody turns up at a club in shorts and running shoes. Then they seem all surprised they can't get in. You'd think people would fucking learn.
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Kevin, the owner of TopBucks, and I couldn't get in. And we had VIPs.
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It's not sounding too good ...
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Well, I've been screwed by venues that tell you what you want to hear before the party starts, then they a private VIP roped off for their people, when their people weren't allowed in the club let alone taking up VIP space and offending my VIP's when they'd flash their pass and get turned down. It happened in South Beach at the Shadow Lounge. Great Players Ball (1999), huge crowd for the venue, 90% mostly webmasters, some local chicks imported which I asked for, and that extra 50 guests that were friends of the owner in a private section.

Other venues have security looking for their tips from regular clients, they'll take the money and deal with any complaints from the promoters, they don't care, they want money. Miami is a tough place to get a venue 100% yours on a Saturday night. They'd charge thousands and thousands for that because they'd have to give up that guaranteed money. So the way parties get screwed is when you let them have ANY outsiders. I'm sure for a bar like that it would cost a guaranteed $50k to $100k to get it 100% exclusive for your own guests.

Anyway, I've got to cut Eroticafest some slack in that respects, you never really know the inner dealings that take place in advance. I've had my shit together with the management and security teams, even hired my own security staff to over see theirs and had problems still (C2K Vegas). Vegas and Miami are 2 of the hardest cities to get an exclusive deal on a venue during the weekend.

I've heard from a few people they had a blast, so I'm sure maybe we're just hearing the bad before the good, it's early still. Did 5% of the webmasters get turned down? Or 80%? It's too early to get a measure yet. Most reasons sound like it's due to dressing in shorts and stuff.

D$ .. with all due respect...

I have been in the night club business since 1989.
I have promoted HUGE events in the past.

If people were turned down.. many of them .. for not dressing properly...should this not have been relayed to the webmasters ? do not wear jeans ?

You can mix webmasters and the general public very easily. Just need to get everything in writing of what the deal is and what is expected of both parties ( the club and the client ) then you send a team .. early in the night, and make sure EVERYTHING is in place.

I am not bashing on anyone here. There is not ONE person at fault but I KNOW that many of the issues could have been dealt wth better.
The mayhem at the front door for intance. There was NO order. the club should ahve cleared the sidewalk and made proper lines for everyone.
Oh and yes.. i was not allowed in for wearing shorts !
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Kevin, the owner of TopBucks, and I couldn't get in. And we had VIPs.
Damn this is sounding like a bigger and bigger fuckup by the minute.
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BTW, both of us were dressed nicely.

I don't hold it against Xbiz, they did a great job. They just got jacked around by the club. Their happy hour was an awesome networking event, and I did a bunch of biz at it and am totally satisified with sponsoring it.
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Kevin, the owner of TopBucks, and I couldn't get in. And we had VIPs.
It was a very ugly situation at the door..it didn't matter what VIP passes we had, arm bands or anything... if you were wearing shorts... you were not getting in.

Who the fuck wants to wear pants in Miami? It was hotter than 2 rats fucking in a wool sock down there.

I am glad I am home now.. time to get to work.
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It was a very ugly situation at the door..it didn't matter what VIP passes we had, arm bands or anything... if you were wearing shorts... you were not getting in.

Who the fuck wants to wear pants in Miami? It was hotter than 2 rats fucking in a wool sock down there.

I am glad I am home now.. time to get to work.
We were wearing dress slacks, silk shirts, and appropriate shoes. They didn't care about the VIPs, the good news was we finally were able to buy our way in.

This is not a beat up on Xbiz thing, they did their job. The losers at the door were just self impressed assholes.
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We were wearing dress slacks, silk shirts, and appropriate shoes. They didn't care about the VIPs, the good news was we finally were able to buy our way in.

This is not a beat up on Xbiz thing, they did their job. The losers at the door were just self impressed assholes.
well they flaked on 6 other things that was in thier control not the clubs.. so we still got screwed
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EROTICAFEST SUCKED ASS!!!!

FUCKING $10 DRINKS?

A FUCKING 45 MINUTE DRIVE?

LETTING IN GENERAL PUBLIC?
KEEPING OUT WEBMASTERS? (WHO HAD ALL ACCESS PASSES)

MUSIC BLASTED SO LOUD, COULD NOT HEAR SHIT!

CARMEN ELECTRAS NAKED WOMAN OF WRESTILING? BULLSHIT!!
NO CARMEN ELECTRA. NO NAKED WOMAN!!

WHEN I DID WANT A DRINK, THE BARTENDERS WERE FUCKING ASSHOLES!!! WAITED NEARLY 15 MINUTES FOR A FUCKING $10 DRINK!

PUBLIC WAS LET IN TO ALL VIP AREAS!

BOUNCERS WERE FUCKING ASSHOLES!!

RON JEREMY CAME ON FOR 2 SECONDS AND WAS NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN. (not like I give a shit about ron jeremy!!)


I COULD HAVE FOUND BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY EVENING THEN THAT FUCKING WASTE OF TIME!!

TO THE SPONSORS WHO SPONSORED THAT PEICE OF FUCKING SHIT HEADACHE..........

KISS MY ASS!!
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I was a sponsor there as well . And I had a blast .

Its the clubs Fuck up . You cant mix the Miami Crowd with Webmasters on a saturday Night . I was trying my hardest to get people in through the back door . Whoever had my cell # I got in . I got to the venue at Like 6pm to Help with the Setup.
The whole Idea at the Door is you can get in if you have 2 girls with you. They fuck with the ratio. Also we were supposed to film the event but the club wouldnt allow it . I go to mansion every saturday and it is Never busy as it was . Since they cought me sneaking in webmasters at the back door and got pissed at me . I went went to the front of the Line and took like 20 peeps into crobar instead . I totally Missed alient Ant farm cause I took care of them Friday night and were total dicks to me . If anyone heard Social Burn they Fucking rocked !

I dont blame Lisa at all . I was with her the whole way on trying to get this thing setup correctly and mansion is an awsome venue .

I blame the promo guy for mansion he thinks he is MR Miami.
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maybe it wasnt the sponsors fault


but they should have known better, especially if they knew the general public was being let in!!

if the sponsors arent at fault, then that club reamed those sponsors and all the webmasters...


eroticafest?

I seen nothing that would constitute as erotic, other then the fact that we were all fucked.
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I was a sponsor there as well . And I had a blast .

Its the clubs Fuck up . You cant mix the Miami Crowd with Webmasters on a saturday Night . I was trying my hardest to get people in through the back door . Whoever had my cell # I got in . I got the the venue at Like 6pm to Help with the Setup.
The whole Idea at the Door is you can get in if you have 2 girls with you. They fuck with the ratio. Also we were supposed to film the event but the club wouldnt allow it . I go to mansion every saturday and it is Never busy as it was . Since they cought me sneaking in webmasters at the back door and got pissed at me . I went went to the front of the Line and took like 20 peeps into crobar instead . I totally Missed alient Ant farm cause I took care of them Friday night and were total dicks to me . If anyone heard Social Burn they Fucking rocked !

I dont blame Lisa at all . I was with her the whole way on trying to get this thing setup correctly and mansion is an awsome venue .

I blame the promo guy for mansion he thinks he is MR Miami.
how can it be the clubs fuck up? you guys knew they were going to let in general public!

didnt you?
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Like D$ stated to rent out Mansion on a Sat Night would of never happened .

Its the clubs fuck up on Holding the line as they did . Thats the games they play here in Miami .
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I wonder how much was actually spent on the event vs. how much was pocketed. Sounds like it was just an easy payday for them.
Sounds true
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how can it be the clubs fuck up? you guys knew they were going to let in general public!

didnt you?
i didnt know it lol


its both the club and giga/xbiz fault bottom line. giga set this shit party up, they are gonna take care of it. i want my money back plus the 500 my programmer spent
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Wow, they really fucked up if it got to this point.

Have they agreed to give you a refund yet P1mpdogg?
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Wow, they really fucked up if it got to this point.

Have they agreed to give you a refund yet P1mpdogg?
i havent hear a word as of yet. i dont expect to hear anything until tuesday at the latest.. if nothing by then, then i will handle it my way
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I wonder how much was actually spent on the event vs. how much was pocketed. Sounds like it was just an easy payday for them.
who do you think made money?

the club or the sponsors?



If i was a sponsor, and things were not the way they were described to me, then i would being contacting my lawyer, becuase that club made you look terrible!!

Everyone I talked to was fucking pissed off and depressed looking.
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i havent hear a word as of yet. i dont expect to hear anything until tuesday at the latest.. if nothing by then, then i will handle it my way
Wow, that sucks. I thought everything would have been perfecto after the whole sponsor addition thing that went down before Internext.
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I wonder how much was actually spent on the event vs. how much was pocketed. Sounds like it was just an easy payday for them.
thats what Im starting to think.. I'm wondering if they even had to pay alien ant farm or anything. I bet they just got drinks at a discount.

gigacash knew the public was going to be here Lisa told me, but they said there would be a VIP's only area, which wasnt the case at all.
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Kevin, the owner of TopBucks, and I couldn't get in. And we had VIPs.
oh man someone really fucked up
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Not only that....


I had an all access pass.


I was told to get up off the couches (on the bottom floor), becuase they were reserved for people who bought champagne.


WHAT THE FUCK?
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such a huge let-down...... I had the right attire on and still left because it was so un-organized
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Kevin, the owner of TopBucks, and I couldn't get in. And we had VIPs.
Can you just tell me if you met the dress code, cause it's going to be a holy war if VIP's or even ticket holders could not get in and met the dress code.

I doubt you had shorts, but please just confirm.
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While I am not passing judgement on anyone...
I have just question to ask...

Who would wear shorts to a South Beach Club?

I realize many people may come from other areas of the country and may assume that there are no dress codes anywhere else- I would have to think most people would be savvy enough to realize you can't dress that way in those kind of clubs....

It's a lot like wearing a tank top and shorts in Church- it's simple protocol.
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BTW, both of us were dressed nicely.

I don't hold it against Xbiz, they did a great job. They just got jacked around by the club. Their happy hour was an awesome networking event, and I did a bunch of biz at it and am totally satisified with sponsoring it.
Yeah but Im not convinced it was the clubs fault. If so then why was Lisa backstage shadowing the bandmembers the whole night and not working the door to get VIP's in..


I will admit Stephen got us in just fine and took care of us, but our affiliates and VIP's are more important than us. The party is for the VIP's and ticket holders not the sponsors or general public fucking nobodys.
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While I am not passing judgement on anyone...
I have just question to ask...

Who would wear shorts to a South Beach Club?

I realize many people may come from other areas of the country and may assume that there are no dress codes anywhere else- I would have to think most people would be savvy enough to realize you can't dress that way in those kind of clubs....

It's a lot like wearing a tank top and shorts in Church- it's simple protocol.


Wearing shorts and thinking your going to be let into a nightclub, especially in Miami, is kind of silly. Thats just not the way to use your head. I mean, its not like your in key west.

But thats small potatoes to the BS that took place there.

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Can you just tell me if you met the dress code, cause it's going to be a holy war if VIP's or even ticket holders could not get in and met the dress code.

I doubt you had shorts, but please just confirm.
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We were wearing dress slacks, silk shirts, and appropriate shoes. They didn't care about the VIPs, the good news was we finally were able to buy our way in.

This is not a beat up on Xbiz thing, they did their job. The losers at the door were just self impressed assholes.
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Like D$ stated to rent out Mansion on a Sat Night would of never happened .

Its the clubs fuck up on Holding the line as they did . Thats the games they play here in Miami .
yeah true but if I wasnt Xbiz I wouldnt have allowed the club to say shit.
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