If a white father said this, he would be ruined. I can't believe...

[Jcman]

If a white father said this, he would be ruined. I can't believe ESPN would write a positive story on such racist comments...
Look what Kevin Winslow said to his son about choosing a college and Kellen said about his fathers opinions:

..."It wasn't as big of a factor to me as my father," Kellen Jr. said. "But you need to see people in positions of high authority of the same color, of the same race as yourself."---"I think he is precisely on the money," said Edwards, the author of numerous books on the relationship between sports and minorities...

This is the one that really got me:

..."All I'm saying is to take a look at who the decision makers are," Kevin Winslow said. "And if you don't see somebody who looks like you, then ask why."...

Here is the link to the article: http://espn.go.com/ncf/s/2001/0424/1185637.html

[UnseenWorld]

The geneticists tell us that "race is a social myth" (in other words, there is no race gene: it's a category people made up based merely on appearance). Unfortunately, between their constant complaining about past and present crimes and slights, the racial minorities tend to keep the myth alive more than the white majority.

Shelby Steele, the black writer and political commentator has lamented this fact and pointed out that, (I'm forced to paraphrase here) "The difference between the blacks and the jews is that the jews have accepted the fact that there will always be antisemitism."

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[Warphead]

If a white person said it, it wouldn't make any sense - because there's always some white people in control.

And Unseenworld, for every black man complaining about society, there's at least ten white people complaining about him complaining.

Why can't everyone stop whining?



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[boneprone]

So Unseenworld: Does this mean that Black men are just lucky to get the large cock Gene since you say race is not Gene related?

Of course it is gene related.. Or Black couples would have white children and white couples would have chineese looking kids..



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[Warphead]

What he's talking about is there's not a single gene that makes someone black. What we call "black" is a collection of genes, that plenty of white people also share. It's a combination.

The whole idea of seperate races is false, it was just created so we could have racism. Because of where we evolved different genotypes are present, but we're all the same animal.

A black man has dark skin and eyes to protect him from the sun, a white man has more oil in his skin to protect him from the cold.

And the genes that have historically most important - skin color aren't even absolute genes. Some genes are either one or the other, like eye color. The genes that decide skin color are relative - you usually get a mixture of both parents rather then the same gene as one of them. Hair's the same way, your hair is usually somewhere in between your mothers and your fathers.

[eRock]

I understand what Jcman is saying & he's totally right! That's a bullshit racist comment to make! If the table was turned people would all be up in arms about it!

[MrBrian]

there is a race gene
thats what makes us different

we share over 90% of the genetic code of a chimp. but, you dont see me swinging from trees and eating bananas all day.

even with an animal like a dolphin, i think its in the 70 percentile

blacks make up 10% of the population. they should be happ with 10% of the coaching jobs, right? there is a point with football though. a larger percentage of blacks play football and basketball than their populational ratio.

but like all of life, its about who you know. i dont think there are any black football team owners. if all the owners were black, im sure there would be a larger amount of black coaches.

[spock199]

It's nice to see that unseenworld has brought his stupidity over here - I kind of missed it over at pc

[spock199]

and by the way - for the people who say there is no difference, that we are all one race - ask yourself, would you give up your white skin to be black?

i sure as hell wouldn't

[Warphead]

Originally posted by MrBrian:
there is a race gene
thats what makes us different we share over 90% of the genetic code of a chimp. but, you dont see me swinging from trees and eating bananas all day.

It seems like I shouldn't have to point this out, but chimps aren't human. We're a different species. Black people and white people are both human. All primates aren't human, just us.

There are certain genes that decide our phenotype. Eyes, height, things that affect how we look (whithin the human race). The genes that keep us from being chimps have nothing to do with phenotype.

[MrBrian]

monkeys do have the same penotype
they can have different skin, hair, and eyes

they have just been around so long that the dominant genes have won over

if you take the average chimp and an average man, 97-99% of their dna will match.

my point is that there is a "race" gene.

[Warphead]

Originally posted by MrBrian:
my point is that there is a "race" gene.

And my point is that your point is a non-sequitor. That's like saying apples can be golden or red, thus there's a race gene. Or some dogs are rottweilers and some are poodles, thus there's a race gene.

There is no single gene that makes a person black or white, it's a combination of genes and the right combination will make society consider you black. There's more than 1 gene of difference between me and the average black man. Also more than 1 gene of difference between you and I - although my family is pure Irish. My eyes are green, my skin is fish-belly white, but we still have different genes.

And if you could go inside me and switch any 1 gene, you couldn't make me black.

[UnseenWorld]

Originally posted by boneprone:
So Unseenworld: Does this mean that Black men are just lucky to get the large cock Gene since you say race is not Gene related?

Of course it is gene related.. Or Black couples would have white children and white couples would have chineese looking kids..

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Everything about our physical being is gene-related, Pronebone. But that doesn't mean that our genes divide us up into easily distinguishable "races." "Race" is a social term, not a genetic one. Do you understand now?

Let's look at skin color. There used to be a way of dividing up the races as Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. This parsing was based largely on skin color, but also on skull characteristics, hair texture, and so on. Unfortunately, it had big problems. For example, what to do with East Indians, who were clearly "Caucasoid" in just about every respect except skin color: They could be very dark. Australian aborigines were very dark-skinned also, but were also clearly not Negroid or Mongoloid, according to the prevailing racial definitions. So, they, too, were classified as Caucasoid with an asterisk.

So much for "white people" (caucasians) being white.

This is the myth of race: It can't be defined in any genetic way that ends up making much sense.

If you want to define races on dick size, go ahead, but you won't find many geneticists following your lead.

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[jill]

First of all, I just want to say that I am totally colorblind, okay? But I have always been puzzled by the existence of the "Black Music Awards" and "Miss Black USA." If someone organized a "White Music Awards," there would be rioting in the streets!

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[mischief]

I know where you're coming from Jill, that's always puzzled me too.

[Warphead]

Well for a very long time black people weren't treated really well in the mainstream media. For example Elvis was hated by alot of people because he was acting and sounding like a black singer. Another good example would be Dorothy Dandridge.

Now there are plenty of black people in the entertainment industry, but still if all the actors in the movie are black - it's a black movie, but if all the actors are white it's just a movie.

Basically some black people like black entertainment and it's not everywhere like white entertainment, so they create a little niche. Just like The Lifetime awards would be just for women, it's not an attack on men, it's just that men are more catered to than women.

I wrote this thinking it was a legitimate question, if you were just trying to say "It's not fair, I'm oppressed, feel sorry for me because the black man is keepin' me down" please pretend I was rude and condescending.

[mischief]

Well, I don't believe the Jews have been treated all that well over the years either, but we don't have the Jewish music awards. Everything aside, you make some valid points. Like Jill, I am truly colorblind, these award shows and contests do not bother me in the least, they are just an interesting observation.

[Balljoints]

Should know better than to type while drinking. Never comes out as meant

Balljoints

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[mischief]

Some very interesting thoughts BJ, unfortunately, many would view you and the missus as a Redneck for such statements. Too sad my man.

[titmowse]

The thing is jcman, I dealt with you the other night at RED's auction and I was impressed with your unselfish givings to a woman in need. I applaud your much needed assistance to a person I know to be a good soul.*note* It wasn't you the other night, but I'll leave the compliment*

Then you go and post a topic like this.

I am reminded of my days as a hairdresser.

I would find myself constantly humbled by the people that I got to know sitting in my chair.

Before, I was a quasi-intellectual-elitist-snob. I was sure all those that did not feel exactly as I did were fools and had no purpose.

I worked in a shop in one of the most visited malls in the United States. Therefore, folks from all walks of life sat in my stylist's chair.

I (through the intimate contact associated in my field) got to know people I would never have bothered with had I not had to.

What always amazed me was when these people told me their stories. When they voiced their opinions, I was always able to find common ground with them no matter how disparate our lifestyles were.

What has all this got to do with your topic?

I guess that what I want to convey to you is this:

Stop concentrating on what polarizes us as humans.

I can see from what you posted that you hope to live in a world that judges people by merits and not skin color.

I wish we lived in that world also. We do not.

My personal term for it is: site abuse. We (as humans) abuse our gift of site.

My personal advice to you is to try to look at every person you deal with from the auspices of their merits.

Stop trying to look at the ways we are different and try to look to our common humanity.


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[mischief]

amen tit.

[Warphead]

Originally posted by mischief:
Well, I don't believe the Jews have been treated all that well over the years either, but we don't have the Jewish music awards.

True. Latinos have all kinds of awards, but we didn't really do anything evil to them. I think it's more that they (the blacks and latinas) feel under-represented in the entertainment industry.

And according to the KKK, the media is already 100% Jewish.

It's easy to say we're color-blind, and I know the best of us try to be - but imagine what it would be like if everywhere you looked you saw only black faces. If the only toys you had growing up were black, and every person that was considered beautiful on tv was black, and all the heros were black. It would be hard on a person, and I can't pretend to know what it's like.

But it's changing, black people can now be in movies and not play a servant or a criminal. I'm thinking that before long awards shows like these will disappear, not because they're unfair - because they'll become unnecessary.

[Warphead]

Originally posted by Balljoints:
Can I say "united negro college fund" ?
If you know me, I think you know I am not racist. But if a "united caucasian college fund" Was established would that be considered racist?

The UNCF is very small, very few black people can get it, and when they do it's not a free-ride.

I'm from West Virginia, there are scholerships there that are only for poor people who come from WV. Is it unfair that a person from New York can't get it? There are scholarships just for trumpet players, and orphans. They're made to help poor people, how could that offend you?

The Native Americans have reservations and are allowed to have casinos on them. I'm not, is that racist?

And what does the crack about "mating with animals" mean?

[Warphead]

Originally posted by mischief:
amen tit.

I second that emotion.

[[Labret]]

Fuck your politically correct white guilt.

There is a double standard in this country, he merely pointed it out.

Imagine a Miss White America Beauty Contest, an all white University, a National Association For The Advancement of White People, a White Entertainment Television.

If there is anything I hate more than Sweet Jimmy, its a politically correct knee jerk reactionary white liberal.

Minor Threat said it best, "Guilty of being white".

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[titmowse]

>Imagine a Miss White America Beauty Contest, an all white University, a National Association For The Advancement of White People, a White Entertainment Television.<

Who needs to imagine these things? This was the reality not more than 40 years ago.

You kids and your concept of history crack me up.

[Warphead]

Originally posted by [Labret]:
Fuck your politically correct white guilt.
If there is anything I hate more than Sweet Jimmy, its a politically correct knee jerk reactionary white liberal.Minor Threat said it best, "Guilty of being white

Fuck your pathetic white self-pity. Lets all feel sorry for the poor white kid that's struggling for equality. I'm not politically correct, I use the term white trash all the time.

NOFX said it better, "Don't Call Me White".

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Warphead:
Fuck your pathetic white self-pity. Lets all feel sorry for the poor white kid that's struggling for equality. I'm not politically correct, I use the term white trash all the time.

NOFX said it better, "Don't Call Me White".

No self pity here. The only pity I see here is you and twatmouse's fucking whiny little asses trying to defend reverse discrimination.

Have you ever listened to "Dont Call Me White"?

Let me refresh:

The connotations wearing my nerves thin
Could it be semantics generating the mess we're in?
I understand that language breeds stereotype
But what's the explanation for the malice, for the spite?

Totally self defeating on your part.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by titmowse:
>Imagine a Miss White America Beauty Contest, an all white University, a National Association For The Advancement of White People, a White Entertainment Television.<

Who needs to imagine these things? This was the reality not more than 40 years ago.

You kids and your concept of history crack me up.

So that makes it right?

I have a MS in Anthro and a BA in Soc, my grasp of history and what you call "race" is fine. Race doesn't even exist mongoloid. Stop throwing around your bullshit words and go back to whacking it to your regurgitated and rehashed Chomsky crap.


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[[Labret]]

And I was never in Boneprone... I am over 15, I have a social life and an IQ above 30. Thereby making me very uneligible for Bonerprone membership.

[Warphead]

Originally posted by [Labret]:
No self pity here.

Did you not read your own post? You're outraged that black people are allowed to have their own awards show. It terrifies you because it defeats your feelings of self-worth, which are based on ideas of your own superiority. That's called self-pity.

To a slight extent mentioning the NOFX song was self-defeating, but what I said was true - they did say it better. To be honest I'm surprised that a guy with a masters uses quotes from kids in a punk band to make his points. I guess our educational system is going to hell.

Listing degrees is a technique of the pseudo-intellectual. It obviously didn't make you more intelligent or it would show in your demeanor.

BTW was this supposed to be a joke : "Race doesn't even exist mongoloid" since the term mongoloid was originally a racial classification? If so I did notice the irony.

I'll try to dip a little deeper into the world's wisdom with this:

"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life." - Hoffer

"Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated." -Shaw

"We must interpret a bad temper as a sign of inferiority." - Adler

See, now that was an example of referencing to make a point.

[titmowse]

silly, useless pinks. why do i even bother?

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Warphead:
Did you not read your own post? You're outraged that black people are allowed to have their own awards show. It terrifies you because it defeats your feelings of self-worth, which are based on ideas of your own superiority. That's called self-pity.

Outraged? Defeats my feelings of self worth? My superiority? You assume that because I have a problem with reverse discrimination that I have some superiority complex? I have a problem with hypocrisy. I live in Detroit for shits sake, the worst place a person with a "white power" complex would choose to live. You will NEVER find a person with a Anthro background that even remotely has an inkling of racial superiority. We do not even believe in race.

This is so typical lefty it makes me wanna cry. Classic textbook crybaby liberal reply to something they disagree with. If I said I didnt like homosexuals, or viewed their behavior as somehow deviant, I would be branded a closet homosexual myself... or that I somehow viewed them as a "threat".

Classic.

To a slight extent mentioning the NOFX song was self-defeating, but what I said was true - they did say it better. To be honest I'm surprised that a guy with a masters uses quotes from kids in a punk band to make his points. I guess our educational system is going to hell.

So let me get this straight, an educated person is not allowed to quote something entirely appropriate to the conversation just because it comes from an 80's sxe punk band? Your quoting NOFX for shits sake. Besides, linoleum and the Brews are much better songs.

I dont feel like quoting Tyler, Boaz, Malinowski etc...

Listing degrees is a technique of the pseudo-intellectual. It obviously didn't make you more intelligent or it would show in your demeanor.

Psuedo? Point attempted to be made was that who is more qualified to discuss "race"... a sterotypical left wing pussy spewing the same shit their predecessors have been spewing the last 30 years? Or someone who has actually spent the last 7 years actually studying these topics, not relaying what they learned on Jenny Jones.

Demeanor is the measure of an educated person? Sorry, I have known way to many crazy ass professors to even find that to be remotely true.

BTW was this supposed to be a joke : "Race doesn't even exist mongoloid" since the term mongoloid was originally a racial classification? If so I did notice the irony.

I was speaking of the condition... ie Corky.

See, now that was an example of referencing to make a point.

Too tired to cut and paste witty quotes from websites.

boneprone4life.com

[Warphead]

Oh, comon Labret, don't get girlie on me now. You introduced yourself to this board by saying you hated me, now you don't have the time and energy to go on?

The thing is, I didn't say we should give black people special treatment because we "owed it to them" you just imagined all that. I tried to look at it from their point of view, it's called empathy, it makes me a good person. I try to see things from the points of view of others. I'd have done the same to you, but you hate me so much I didn't see the point.

My main argument on this thread was "why would you care?" I mean really, I don't. You just popped in to call me names and assume you knew everything about me.

I didn't really think arguing with you would do any good, some people can discuss things with an open mind, and some can just tell you how stupid you are for disagreeing. I argue with you because it's fun.

I mean lets really think about hypocrisy. You say I'm giving a crybaby response to anything I don't agree with, but every one of your posts has been just that. I don't agree with you so I'm a pussy. Titmouse don't agree with you so he's a mongoloid.

Lets also notice that since your first couple of posts all you've done is defend yourself.

And no, it's fine to quote a song. The only real reason I mentioned NOFX was because we obviously share some interests. I'm more of a Misfits and Rollins guy, myself - but I didn't think you'd see everything I said as an attack since you're the one who attacked me.

In closing I'll say I do think you're an idiot. I think Tit was probably right, you're 13. If you're not, you definately act like it.

Did you notice that no one who agreed with you said anything after you popped in? That's because when you posted it was clear that anyone who agreed with you would be making themselves look stupid. If you ever want anyone to take what you say or think seriously, you need to work on the difference between debating or discussing an issue and calling people names like a little kid.

[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Warphead:
Oh, comon Labret, don't get girlie on me now. You introduced yourself to this board by saying you hated me, now you don't have the time and energy to go on?

I said I hated you? I must have missed something.

My main argument on this thread was "why would you care?" I mean really, I don't. You just popped in to call me names and assume you knew everything about me.

So your not a lefty? Judging by your opinions it is pretty safe to assume that you fall far left of center. Other than that, I said nothing else about you.

I didn't really think arguing with you would do any good, some people can discuss things with an open mind, and some can just tell you how stupid you are for disagreeing. I argue with you because it's fun.

I dont consider this arguing. Arguing is constructive, this is boredom. This is me defending myself against statements made by you saying that by disagreeing with you I am a scared white boy with some sort of complex.

Lets also notice that since your first couple of posts all you've done is defend yourself.

Im confused. I am not supposed to?

You basically tried to call me a racist for disagreeing with you. Typical, I saw it coming, it really is the only defense most whiny liberals have. I guess I could have just sat back and laughed at it

In closing I'll say I do think you're an idiot. I think Tit was probably right, you're 13. If you're not, you definately act like it.

Of course, because I have the audacity to disagree with you.

Seriously. Do you really think I care what you or Tit think? You guys spew the same tired PC shit that your kind have been spewing for years.

Did you notice that no one who agreed with you said anything after you popped in? That's because when you posted it was clear that anyone who agreed with you would be making themselves look stupid. If you ever want anyone to take what you say or think seriously, you need to work on the difference between debating or discussing an issue and calling people names like a little kid.

Sorry, this place is not a popularity contest for me. The only reason your even responding to me is because I called you a whiny little bitch, I really dont see why other people would even chime in. Nothing is being debated, its just me defending personal attacks because I dared to disagree. Fascists in Birkenstocks... forgot who said that.

Im not trying to rally support. Support for what? I made a statement about you and Tit, it is an opinion. Have I tried to prove anything other than you and tit are whiny little knee jerk reactionary pussies?

You bore me. Im sorry your empathy runs so deep. Empathy is another word for weakness.

[titmowse]

tell you what mr labia:

you post a pic of yourself so we can all remember you face for the conventions. k?

[loster]

The world is a vampire, everyone. Just be nice to those around you...limit your losses and live life. Plan for tomorrow, but don't forget to enjoy today.

You can't draw lines on issues like these. What is a race? Skin color? Mindset? Competition where everybody runs as fast as they can and tries to win? Who the fuck knows...it's all what you make of it. Everybody has good points they make..if you don't see that you're not looking very hard. But that doesn't mean any body is "more right" than the next person.

We've all got a lot to learn about everything in this world. We are just lucky enough to be part of the technology that's making this learning process possible.

So why can't we all just get along ;-) When you spend time on unconstructive bickering at places like these, you're not making very good use of your time. Relax, and take in some different views...it's all good.

Hope everyone is having a great day,

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[Warphead]

Originally posted by [Labret]:
I said I hated you? I must have missed something.

You said "If there is anything I hate more than Sweet Jimmy, its a politically correct knee jerk reactionary white liberal." which you were implying I was.

Other than that, I said nothing else about you.

"you and twatmouse's fucking whiny little asses", "Classic textbook crybaby liberal" - So you weren't talking to me?

This is me defending myself against statements made by you saying that by disagreeing with you I am a scared white boy with some sort of complex.

Again, was "Fuck your politically correct white guilt." and "If there is anything I hate more than Sweet Jimmy, its a politically correct knee jerk reactionary white liberal." your way of disagreeing?

Nothing is being debated, its just me defending personal attacks because I dared to disagree.

Can you read the messages that were posted before yours? I'm pretty sure people were talking about something - I don't remember any of them attacking you.

Empathy is another word for weakness.

Maybe someday we'll meet in person, and we'll discuss weakness.

[[Labret]]

Excellent, I have no problems with that.

I most likely will not be in Vegas in June, but wont know for sure until mid June.

You and Tittie will be in for a very rude, very ugly awakening. I like this conclusion.

[Warphead]

Are you implying a threat, Labrat? I thought you had me all figured out? We left wing-pussies are against violence, didn't you read that in your textbooks?

I actually didn't mean I'd attack you, I meant that if you saw me in person, I doubt you'd consider me weak. I'm a real big-boy, and maybe you are too - I seriously doubt that if we met either of us would be doing anything "ugly".

I do regret making it so easy for you to ignore how brutally I thwarted you in that last message.

[titmowse]

hey man labret, i just wanna know what you look like so i can stay as far away from you as possible. rage like yours is poisonous.

[left_as_fuck]

titmouse

Labret is living proof that the people who have the least to say take the most time in doing it.

Fear is a sad way in which to live your life, its a very unfortunate thing to witness.

Perhaps he should be best left alone.

[Warphead]

Originally posted by left_as_fuck:
Labret is living proof that the people who have the least to say take the most time in doing it.

Least to say? You might want to peek above this message, unless you meant content-wise you're not paying attention.

And why are all you new guys in this thread assuming they know everything about everyone? Titmouse is from TX, he might be a stone-killer with a six-gun. You better hope you didn't just piss him off, Left. He might be Leatherface with PMS.

Of course, you might too...

I hope I get that concealed-weapons permit, I'm starting to scare myself.



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[[Labret]]

Originally posted by Warphead:
Are you implying a threat, Labrat? I thought you had me all figured out? We left wing-pussies are against violence, didn't you read that in your textbooks?

Violent Lefties: Earth First, Animal Liberation Front, Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice (SHARP), Anti Racist Action (ARA), ANY militant sXe "hardcore" kid and the list could go on and on and on. Just cause your a limp wristed lefty dont assume that all your compatriots want to be lumped into the same category. At least they are willing to backup their talk. A lefty aspect one can actually respect.

I actually didn't mean I'd attack you, I meant that if you saw me in person, I doubt you'd consider me weak.

Translation: Im a pussy.

I'm a real big-boy, and maybe you are too - I seriously doubt that if we met either of us would be doing anything "ugly".

Speak for yourself.

I do regret making it so easy for you to ignore how brutally I thwarted you in that last message.

Of course I read it, and laughed. More of the same lame ass personal attacks as before. Was there really anything in there to respond to? I suppose I could have spent a half hour calling you a lefty, commie, pinko, fruitcake. But seriously, what would have been the point? If anything I suppose we could shoot for longest thread and you can earn yourself some leeto GFY prize.

Like you said, we'll meet someday and we can continue this, settle it. Fruitcake Lefty VS Aggro Hypersensitive Anthro Tard.

So light up some Nag Champa, get yourself a glass of Soy Milk, cuddle with your hairy legged girlfriend (or boyfriend), and cry about the plight of the pygmy albino rainforest monkey.

Toodles

[Warphead]

A-L-F NO COMPROMISE, baby! Yeah! Ya hit a soft spot there.

Ok, Labret, we've got to the point here where we're just arguing for the sake of not being the one to give up. You know it as well as I do, I haven't felt any true seething hatred from you in the last couple posts, and I'm just trying to twist your words around everything you say. I even started doing it on this one, but wised up. We haven't really said anything in a while, we're just trying to find new ways to repeat ourselves.

The thing is - we can't even agree to disagree, we don't know shit about what the other believes (except that we each believe the other to be wrong) you jumped in on a conversation that I didn't even feel strongly about - and I jumped right back. To be honest I thought you were sweetjimmy at first. (the way you threw the name in there, it was a fair guess)

I'll come clean, I'm pretty damn left. Didn't use to be, I'm actually a registered republican. As time went on, my opinions changed. I'm not so far left as you let on, and I'm no where near a hippie - but most the things you think I think, I probably do think.

So here's my offering: We'll meet at a convention, go 3 rounds - gloves, no headgear - and the winner is right about everything.

Fruitcake Lefty VS Aggro Hypersensitive Anthro Tard.

In the end we'll probably end up laughing (after you wake up, of course)

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