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Old 08-09-2004, 03:19 AM   #1
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Do any of the big 4free email programs block PROXIES?

Well they should cuz

Proxies PLUS free email accounts = BANKRUPTCY for sponsors ?
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:23 AM   #2
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shhhhhhhh don't bring this shit up you have no idea how many people on this board pay their rent this way...
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:24 AM   #3
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shhhhhhhh don't bring this shit up you have no idea how many people on this board pay their rent this way...
What a sad way to pay rent.
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:25 AM   #4
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Seriously, they should use PROXYGUARD or even a free proxy list from AIS or whatever.
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Old 08-09-2004, 04:16 AM   #5
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Maybe they should also redirect foreign traffic and also cut down on multiple site signups.
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:13 PM   #6
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:40 PM   #7
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Maybe they should also redirect foreign traffic and also cut down on multiple site signups.
done, done and done.
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Old 08-09-2004, 10:38 PM   #8
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done, done and done.
Free Ezine Bucks and the big guys should do this as well.
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Old 08-09-2004, 10:40 PM   #9
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Free Ezine Bucks and the big guys should do this as well.
i was speaking on behalf of the majority of 4free programs.
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Old 08-09-2004, 10:42 PM   #10
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i was speaking on behalf of the majority of 4free programs.
No they don't... there's still some holes.
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Old 08-09-2004, 11:28 PM   #11
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shhhhhhhh don't bring this shit up you have no idea how many people on this board pay their rent this way...
Ack.. this guy is ruining our scam!
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:42 AM   #12
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Ack.. this guy is ruining our scam!
Just trying to preserve the financial viability of programs so they don't get ruined for honest webmasters.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:44 AM   #13
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yes but u all forgot about those guys that RUN BIG ASS FTP SITES are require people to enter their e-mail in order to get access to their FTP ARCHIVES !!!!!


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Old 08-10-2004, 12:46 AM   #14
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yes but u all forgot about those guys that RUN BIG ASS FTP SITES are require people to enter their e-mail in order to get access to their FTP ARCHIVES !!!!!


How is this related? Unless they trick people with the form to enter the post info into the sponsor's form which is pretty hard to do since many programs don't allow remote boxes.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:57 AM   #15
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Certain ISPS use internal proxies, so there will be pros and cons.
AOL is one of these isps.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:57 AM   #16
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How is this related? Unless they trick people with the form to enter the post info into the sponsor's form which is pretty hard to do since many programs don't allow remote boxes.
He means those guys aren't even interested in porn. They signup just to get access to the FTP. They create a new free email. The FTP site tells them to confirm it. In the confirmation letter 3rd word is the password for FTP etc.

The guy running the site gets an email signup. The people get whatever software is in the FTP. Download is at an extremely slow speed. So they change the password 2-3 days later. They change the email program they're using so the signups are counted again... etc.
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:59 AM   #17
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yes but u all forgot about those guys that RUN BIG ASS FTP SITES are require people to enter their e-mail in order to get access to their FTP ARCHIVES !!!!!


lol what are you talking about?
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Old 08-10-2004, 01:00 AM   #18
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Okay. Thanks for explaining. Sounds very familiar to the old pay per click scams from a while back.

LOL, looks like the 4free email sites are slowly building a database of worthless emails.

now with the rise of SP2 blocking popups, we'll probably see many more programs lowering payouts (like FEB) or shutting down.

There's a way to prevent email fraud as perpetrated by FTP operators... the only question is... are Programs willing to try it?

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He means those guys aren't even interested in porn. They signup just to get access to the FTP. They create a new free email. The FTP site tells them to confirm it. In the confirmation letter 3rd word is the password for FTP etc.

The guy running the site gets an email signup. The people get whatever software is in the FTP. Download is at an extremely slow speed. So they change the password 2-3 days later. They change the email program they're using so the signups are counted again... etc.
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Old 08-10-2004, 01:00 AM   #19
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He means those guys aren't even interested in porn. They signup just to get access to the FTP. They create a new free email. The FTP site tells them to confirm it. In the confirmation letter 3rd word is the password for FTP etc.

The guy running the site gets an email signup. The people get whatever software is in the FTP. Download is at an extremely slow speed. So they change the password 2-3 days later. They change the email program they're using so the signups are counted again... etc.
oh
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Old 08-10-2004, 01:07 AM   #20
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There are easy ways to prevent this fraud. Ones that even sidestep automated scripts.
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Old 08-10-2004, 01:07 AM   #21
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He means those guys aren't even interested in porn. They signup just to get access to the FTP. They create a new free email. The FTP site tells them to confirm it. In the confirmation letter 3rd word is the password for FTP etc.

The guy running the site gets an email signup. The people get whatever software is in the FTP. Download is at an extremely slow speed. So they change the password 2-3 days later. They change the email program they're using so the signups are counted again... etc.
Thank u for explaining it, i was too tired to explain it anyways hehe
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Old 08-10-2004, 01:10 AM   #22
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The standards should be


1) Redirect foreign traffic (non UK, non US, non AU, non CAN, non EU)

2) Use proxy detection system

3) Use cookie redundancy tracking

4) Use login detection
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Old 08-10-2004, 01:12 AM   #23
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Also, end reliance on annoying popups on exit cuz these may be on the way out after SP2 hits wide installation.
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