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Centurion · 08-07-2004, 12:31 PM

From CNN's website:
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...es/casualties/

Has a list of all Americans killed in the Iraqi war along with their specs and pictures. I just look at all those young lives snuffed out before they had a chance to even begin to realize their life's goal and feel greatly saddened.

There is even a chart that breaks it down according to age, gender, ethnicity, etc. The 22-25 year old category have suffered the most losses folled by the under 21 group.

xclusive · 08-07-2004, 12:32 PM

Thanks for bringing down my saturday...

fuck you bush send your daughters over there...

Shoehorn! · 08-07-2004, 12:33 PM

That's fuckind depressing.

Fabuleux · 08-07-2004, 12:36 PM

That list is just too fucking big.

Gheenz · 08-07-2004, 12:38 PM

That's so sad. All these people my age killed for nothing

The Heron · 08-07-2004, 12:38 PM

Only around 1,000 dead what's the big fucking deal? It's a war, people die get over it.

Centurion · 08-07-2004, 12:40 PM

I think when we just hear "another soldier was killed today in Iraq" on the news or read that in the newspaper, we might wince a bit, and then get on with our life.

But when you see some specifics about each soldier along with their face, man..it really brings the war home and makes you realize the ultimate sacrifice these people made.

What I wonder is how many more must die before there is a solution to the Iraqi war (if there ever will be one), and I can't even beging to know what the families and loved ones of those who have lost someone in Iraq feels.

Centurion · 08-07-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by The Heron
Only around 1,000 dead what's the big fucking deal? It's a war, people die get over it.

I doubt you would say that if one of your loved ones was in that 1000.

Yes it is war, but the question remains: WAS/IS it necessary for these people to die, and to CONTINUE TO DIE?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!
When do we say: "Enuf is enuf. Bring the soldiers home!"
At 2000 deaths, at 20,000 deaths, at *50,000* deaths?

BRISK · 08-07-2004, 12:43 PM

I thought this one was strange:

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Pfc. Paul J. Bueche. 19. Died when the tire he was changing on a UH-60 Black Hawk helicoper exploded

Killed by an exploding helicopter tire?

DatingGold · 08-07-2004, 12:44 PM

whats sober?

PerfectionGirls · 08-07-2004, 12:46 PM

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Only around 1,000 dead what's the big fucking deal? It's a war, people die get over it.

Go figure.... some dumb ass, uneducated, hillbilly comment would come from your ass.

You truly have no clue on whats going on around you do you?

If they died for a reason that yes... but they were sent to their death based on lies and misinformation.

Wake up!

The Heron - I'm Ignorant

Fletch XXX · 08-07-2004, 12:47 PM

proud to have been here before you fucking bastards turned this country to shit.

all you know is death.

taste it.

freeadultcontent · 08-07-2004, 12:58 PM

Did they happen to break it down by annual income?

Doctor Dre · 08-07-2004, 01:02 PM

1000 dead person to protect 250 million other aiin't nothing ...

WW2 was 55 millions death total

Vitasoy · 08-07-2004, 01:36 PM

RIP for all those people

Fletch XXX · 08-07-2004, 01:41 PM

if you REALLY want sobering facts why dont you people talk about the maimed, has it reached 8000 yet?

I know being killed is rough on families, but dont let ONLY the deaths sway your mind, THINK of the people who will go on now either debating suicide weekly or simply living in pain and making everyones life around them difficult.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/m...icle&sid= 654

baddog · 08-07-2004, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by xclusive
Thanks for bringing down my saturday... fuck you bush send your daughters over there...

You do realize that this is an all volunteer army, right?

While the loss of life is sad, it is rather amazing that there are so few that they can put up all their pictures. I would have liked to have seen them try that during Nam, Korea, WWI, WWII

Centurion · 08-07-2004, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
1000 dead person to protect 250 million other aiin't nothing ...

WW2 was 55 millions death total

But that's comparing apples to oranges.
BIG difference in reason and need to go to war in World War II

You have to keep this in context..and you just cannot say "Well we lost MILLIONS in WWII, so this is no big thing."

baddog · 08-07-2004, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
they were sent to their death based on lies and misinformation.

really? what lies?

Centurion · 08-07-2004, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
if you REALLY want sobering facts why dont you people talk about the maimed, has it reached 8000 yet?

I know being killed is rough on families, but dont let ONLY the deaths sway your mind, THINK of the people who will go on now either debating suicide weekly or simply living in pain and making everyones life around them difficult.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/m...icle&sid= 654

No, did not break down the casualites...only deaths..1049 coaliton deaths to the time they printed this.
Casualties graph/list would be TOO BIG to be put online.

But I agree with you, all of the maimed, both physically & psycologocially is overwhelming too!

baddog · 08-07-2004, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
I thought this one was strange:

Killed by an exploding helicopter tire?

yes . . . what many fail to realize is that there are casualties in our military every fucking day, even when we are not at war.

in fact, during Desert Storm they said we had fewer casualties than if everyone had been back in the US, on base getting killed in training exercises, domestic disputes, drunk driving . . .

baddog · 08-07-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by NickHimself
That's so sad. All these people my age killed for nothing

NickHimself
No brains, no headaches

adhesive · 08-07-2004, 02:22 PM

Once you guys are done justifying these deaths, can somebody please tell me how we're safer?

Centurion · 08-07-2004, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
yes . . . what many fail to realize is that there are casualties in our military every fucking day, even when we are not at war.

in fact, during Desert Storm they said we had fewer casualties than if everyone had been back in the US, on base getting killed in training exercises, domestic disputes, drunk driving . . .

That's fine (so to speak), but again, really not relevant to the point of this thread.

Peaches · 08-07-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
yes . . . what many fail to realize is that there are casualties in our military every fucking day, even when we are not at war.

in fact, during Desert Storm they said we had fewer casualties than if everyone had been back in the US, on base getting killed in training exercises, domestic disputes, drunk driving . . .

Exactly.

adhesive · 08-07-2004, 02:26 PM

Who cares if I murder people? People die every day...

brand0n · 08-07-2004, 02:29 PM

Pfc. Steven Acosta 19 3rd Battalion, 67th Armored Regiment, 4th Infantry Division Calexico, California Died from a non-hostile gunshot wound in Baqubah, Iraq, on October 26, 2003

wtf is a non hostile gunshot wound? i would figure anyone shooting at you to be considered hostile.

Elli · 08-07-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by brand0n
Pfc. Steven Acosta 19 3rd Battalion, 67th Armored Regiment, 4th Infantry Division Calexico, California Died from a non-hostile gunshot wound in Baqubah, Iraq, on October 26, 2003

wtf is a non hostile gunshot wound? i would figure anyone shooting at you to be considered hostile.

Maybe a gun misfired? Or someone shot into the air to celebrate and the bullet happened to come back down on someone's head?

gazool · 08-07-2004, 02:32 PM

1 dead is tragic - 1000 deaths is just statistics...
They could also do a list of all the kids who got killed in traffic last year...

adhesive · 08-07-2004, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
yes . . . what many fail to realize is that there are casualties in our military every fucking day, even when we are not at war.

in fact, during Desert Storm they said we had fewer casualties than if everyone had been back in the US, on base getting killed in training exercises, domestic disputes, drunk driving . . .

We should start more wars to keep our troops away from the dangers of the United States.

Fletch XXX · 08-07-2004, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Maybe a gun misfired? Or someone shot into the air to celebrate and the bullet happened to come back down on someone's head?

non hostile is the military way of saying friendly fire without really saying it.

he was shot by one of his own soldiers on "accident."

notice not one of them is mentioned as dying from "friendly fire"

which we KNOW happens.

Centurion · 08-07-2004, 06:53 PM

Don't know if anyone saw the CBS evening news tonite, but one of their segments was how Combat Stress is starting to really hit returning G.I.s big time.

And they went on to say (was a bit suprised to find that these stats are considered HIGH), that at least 90% of all combat troops had shot at someone, at least 90% had seen a dead body, and that at least 48% killed an enemy combatant.

These numbers are really high compared to say Viet Nam?

pornguy · 08-07-2004, 08:46 PM

Did you see this???

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...ex.fa18ef.html

Interesting

fr8 · 08-07-2004, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
non hostile is the military way of saying friendly fire without really saying it.

he was shot by one of his own soldiers on "accident."

notice not one of them is mentioned as dying from "friendly fire"

which we KNOW happens.

Yep. Just another word for their coverups. its sad.

Centurion · 08-08-2004, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
non hostile is the military way of saying friendly fire without really saying it.

he was shot by one of his own soldiers on "accident."

notice not one of them is mentioned as dying from "friendly fire"

which we KNOW happens.

The oxymorons ABOUND here!
What's so friendly about "friendly fire"
And any bullet that hits you did not come from "NON HOSTILE" means..to me..any bullet fired is hostile.

Paul Markham · 08-08-2004, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by baddog
really? what lies?

Is stupid your new nick name?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3545710.stm

Just one of many news articles that are coming out weekly to show that the evidence of this entire war was flawed at best, at worse was a lie.

My friends son was in Iraq and though at the front, he walked into villages not know he would walk out again. He's in specail services and fought in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The biggest different to him was, in Afghan he felt welcomes, in Iraq he felt hated. When will some Americans come to realise the world does not love or respect them because they are Americans. Both things have to be earned.

One war did earn it and then the next lost it.

Paul Markham · 08-08-2004, 12:55 AM

The other frightening thing about the list is look at how many died from "Non Hostile" activities.

sean416 · 08-08-2004, 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by baddog
really? what lies?

I cant beleive I'm actually replying to one of your posts, I normally avoid them at all cost. But, this one needed a reply.

1. Weapons of Mass Destruction (where are they?)

2. America is Safer (America raised its warning level based on Pakistani intelligence. WTF! Knowing full well that Osama and Al Queda are the number one threat at the moment, why tie up 130 thousand troops in Iraq who were the number 5 (being generous) threat at the time of invasion. So there's 15 thousand troops looking for Osama and 130 thousand in Iraq.)

3. Iraq was apart of the 9/11 tragedy. (9/11 comission reports say they were not involved)

Shall I continue?

I know you're republican, I know you hate Canada and I know you're just a message board character. But please, take a long hard look at all of those people listed in the link to cnn. Think of who they were as a person. Think of their mothers, their fathers, their children, their friends, etc. Please take the time to do that before you reply with ignorant, biased and aloof remarks about your support for this war.

sean416 · 08-08-2004, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by The Heron
Only around 1,000 dead what's the big fucking deal? It's a war, people die get over it.

Your immaturity is obvious with this kind of reply. If ONE person dies it's a tragedy, no matter what the circumstances are. With 1000 deaths and no justified cause to date it's MURDER. Saddam hussein is on trial for killing his own people, if there was any justice in the world BUSH would be next.

Joe Citizen · 08-08-2004, 01:18 AM

Anybody stupid enough to voluntarily join the military deserves to die.

Radik · 08-08-2004, 01:35 AM

The war can't be considered flawed IF the end result is a free Iraq. Stop before that is a reality - that makes it a flawed war.

Wonder how many of you that bash Bush even vote..

Centurion · 08-08-2004, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by Radik
The war can't be considered flawed IF the end result is a free Iraq. Stop before that is a reality - that makes it a flawed war.

Wonder how many of you that bash Bush even vote..

And how many DECADES will that take to happen, and after how much money do we pour in, and how many more Iraqis die, and Americans and anyone else that gets caught in the line of fire?

There IS NO LIGHT at the end of this tunnel!

There are times the United States needs to admit that IT MADE A MISTAKE! THIS, is one of those times.

As John Kennedy said after the Bay of Pigs in 1961, "Victory has many fathers, but defeat is an orphan." This is a bastard war.

baddog · 08-08-2004, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
Maybe a gun misfired? Or someone shot into the air to celebrate and the bullet happened to come back down on someone's head?

self inflicted

pxxx · 08-08-2004, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
if you REALLY want sobering facts why dont you people talk about the maimed, has it reached 8000 yet?

I know being killed is rough on families, but dont let ONLY the deaths sway your mind, THINK of the people who will go on now either debating suicide weekly or simply living in pain and making everyones life around them difficult.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/m...icle&sid= 654

This kind of stuff is very sad to see, my father faught at Vietnam and he hated wars until he died.

baddog · 08-08-2004, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Is stupid your new nick name?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3545710.stm

Just one of many news articles that are coming out weekly to show that the evidence of this entire war was flawed at best, at worse was a lie.

My friends son was in Iraq and though at the front, he walked into villages not know he would walk out again. He's in specail services and fought in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The biggest different to him was, in Afghan he felt welcomes, in Iraq he felt hated. When will some Americans come to realise the world does not love or respect them because they are Americans. Both things have to be earned.

One war did earn it and then the next lost it.

Funny, all that bullshit and not one example of a lie that was told.

MrJackMeHoff · 08-08-2004, 01:55 AM

WTF why did like 200 people die in vehicle accidents and non combat related shit. Are they fucking retarded? Well I guess you have to be to join up anyway.

Dont ask dont tell?
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baddog · 08-08-2004, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by sean416
I know you're republican, I know you hate Canada and I know you're just a message board character

wrong, wrong, and what?

All intelligence agencies from around the world said there were WMD's. Inaccurate information being provided to GWB does not make him a liar.

You seem to forget, Iraq lost 12 years ago, they failed to live up to the terms of their surrender.

Their loss.

9/11 and war in Iraq are 2 different things. Stop trying to tie them together

baddog · 08-08-2004, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sean416
Your immaturity is obvious with this kind of reply. If ONE person dies it's a tragedy, no matter what the circumstances are. With 1000 deaths and no justified cause to date it's MURDER. Saddam hussein is on trial for killing his own people, if there was any justice in the world BUSH would be next.

Idiot. Whose death did Bush order?

Jakke PNG · 08-08-2004, 02:04 AM

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Died of natural causes on March 30, 2003

hardly a war casualty

kane · 08-08-2004, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by baddog
Funny, all that bullshit and not one example of a lie that was told.

I guess the question is is a lie that is based on bad info still a lie. If I tell you that my friend is letting me use his truck so I can help you move something with it then my friend backs out and won't let me use his truck was me telling you I would help you a lie?

Bush was told by several sources that Iraq posed no threat.

No less than 8 nuclear scientist told him that the aluminum tubes they found were not for enriching uranium.

Yet he still went on national TV and told us that they were a threat and were trying to develop nukes. Is that not a lie?

Powell went before the UN and told them we know exactly where the chemical and biological weapons are but then it turns out those were water trucks not trucks carrying chemicals for weapons. Is that not a lie?

Yes there was a bunch of wrong information but when someone tells you something, you belive it and present it to others as the truth and then it's found out that that info was wrong, so you were wrong doesn't that then turn your truth into a lie?

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