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Bush admin ... playing a dirty campaing ? Don't surprise me at all

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ronbotx

The other side of the story:
http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesui...unfit_aff.html

tony286

People that want to see Kerry fail and really work in our industry fucking amaze me. If W gets another fours years bad things are going to happen, period .

John McCain who endorses the president said himself watched it on TV they did the same the thing to me in 2000. What fucking liberal lie is that? What did he have in common with Kerry he was running against W so dont tell me he has nothing to do with this. If the same thing happened with candiates running against Clinton there would been a call for his head.

Peaches

Do you HONESTLY think Kerry is going to be anymore less against porn than Bush is? You're fooling yourself if you think he's the savior you're making him out to be.

tony286

No you are living in a fox induced dream its a fact the most porn prosecutions happen during Rep admins thats a fact not my opinion.Talk to Adam and EVe they spent a million dollars fights the doj during the Reagan years. 911 slowed Johnny A down, this is a man who paid to cover a statues tits. Democrats arent porn saviors but its not a big deal they have better things to do then go after what consenting adults want. Go read this dear and tell me how untrue it is. What doyou think they hired Bruce Taylor for. WAKE UP !

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal...home-headlines

Peaches

You might want to ask the two largest adult internet sites which administration was in office when they were harassed by the FTC and forced to pay high legal bills and fines

And you really think if Kerry's elected he's going to say to the public "I have decided to stop the current investigations into obscenity and it won't be started up again while I'M in office!"?

ronbotx

Is God talking to you? Were YOU fucking there? How do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt what the real story is? Have you read the book(unreleased) in question and examined the allegations?. Perhaps you have an advanced copy?.

Some of us believe that is is Kerry who is liar , in the great tradition of Bill Clinton. Happily the criminals, hypocrites, scammers, spammers, and druggies on GFY are not deciding the presidential race, the American electorate will on November 2.

tony286

Did you actually take the time to read the article ?

Obscenity cases came to a standstill under Janet Reno, President Bill Clinton's attorney general, who focused on child pornography, which is considered child abuse and comes under different criminal statutes. The ensuing years saw an explosion of porn, so much so that critics say that Americans' tolerance for sexually explicit material rivals that of Europeans.

Peaches

Yes, I read the article. I take your answer to my question is "Yes"?

tony286

The cases that are set in motion will be in motion but new ones wont start as quickly Bruce Taylor will go back into retirement. You are a smart woman so I know you know what I am talking about but pro bushies on the board and others I know in porn all use the same weak argument because they dont want to think about the truth that getting this guy back into office can send lots of thier friends into jail .

lawked

I'd be surprised if your old job would still be available to you. There's probably 40 indians working your old job from India.

Support Bush. I want the middle class america to suffer more and the deficit to fucking rise a few more hundred billions.

God damn idiots thinking they get a tax break. Who's paying that debt in the coming years when someone responsible enough gets in? Go spend 10,000 on your visa and see what happens at the end of the month.... now do that on the Billion's scale.

Pretty sad... Bush is pretty close to stealing another election.

THREAD JACK!

Centurion

The only thing pointless is your attempt to make an issue out of something that never existed.

You can tell when the right wing is scared to death about losing the election. They resort to the most outrageous idiotic attacks on the candidate from THIRTY years ago. Fuck, forget aobut talking about TODAY and TODAY'S issues & plans! Let's go MUCK about what may or may not have happened 30 years ago.

And when I point out who STARTED this group, you say that is false and then to prove your point, you shift to "Here's who is RUNNING the group." Doesn't at all disprove who FOUNDED it!

Your arguments are indeed very pointless.

Centurion

So what you are doing is saying there is a high level conspiracy among the the men who did serve (notice: DID SERVE WITH KERRY ONBOARD) with Kerry onboard the boat to LIE about everything they have said.

Yet you've given no REASON WHY they would lie. What do they have to gain from this? You are just making things up just like the people who are in this ad and financing it. SHAME SHAME!

Again, you are pointless.

Centurion

They won't acknowledge this. They are like rabid dogs. Even when faced by the truth and the acknowledgement of one of the original vets protesting Kerry:

"But yesterday, a key figure in the anti-Kerry campaign, Kerry's former commanding officer, backed off one of the key contentions. Lieutenant Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a ''terrible mistake" in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star -- one of the main allegations in the book. The affidavit was given to The Boston Globe by the anti-Kerry group to justify assertions in their ad and book."

69pornlinks

, people why dont' you cut out the middle man and write in sharon....at least your vote will going str8 to their 'master'

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Centurion

No one said he was a "savior"..but then again, he is not the CRUSADER that George (God wants me to be President) Bush and his Attorney General ASHOLE ("Dancing is sinful")is who want to remake this country in the image of the Religious Right!

Are you going to say that Bush is "porn friendly" then? Gimme a break!

Centurion

Listen to the pot calling the kettle black here!

All of your posts have SCREAMED "This is the TRUTH!. Swift Boat Veterans prove this!"

mardigras

http://www.drudgereport.com/kerrybo.htm
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Mutt

have their been any polls since this SwiftVets controversy started? hurting Kerry?

ronbotx

You are an idiot.... Where did I say this. Unlike you, I don't know the whole story... Here is what I actually said, or would care to lie again....

"This discussion is pointless.
When it comes down to it , we have a boat crew saying one thing and his fellow officers and superiors saying another. You weren't there and I was not there. The book with all the details and the focus of this controversy is being published next week. It is going to play out in the media, kinda like the Bush/National Guard thing."

Mr.Fiction

You are obviously deluding yourself. Where do you live, somewhere in the South where they raise kids showing them pictures of Democrats and telling you they are the devil? If so, you need to get over that brainwashing and start looking at facts.

Talk to people like Larry Flynt who has spent years in jail because of conservative administrations.

Democrats are far better supporters of adult free speech than Republicans. That is not an opinion, it is a fact that is proved over and over again by statistics of prosecutions and investigations under Republicans and Democratic presidents.

You might not want to admit it, but you are undeniably wrong.

As far as the FTC, do you deny that some in the adult industry were using questionable credit card billing practices?

Do you approve of adult webmasters using questionable credit card billing methods?

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latinasojourn

well said.

Centurion

Koki Robinson from ABC News was on Bill Maher's "Real Time" on HBO friday night and she said ironically, everytime the subject of Vietnam is brought up in relation to John Kerry, his poll numbers go up!

And she and even arch conservative Bob Barr said that they think this whole ad campaign and group of veterans trying to tarnish Kerry's record will blow up in their face in the final analysis.

EviLSuperstaR

Just another stupid moron that is easy to brainwash by lying republican propaganda

Peaches

Yet another stupid moron who didn't bother reading where I've said many times I'm neither a democrat nor a republican. Though if forced to make a choice, I'd side with the majority of the republicans since most dems want to take my money from me and give it others

Seriously, I amazed by the "youngsters" here. Do you people not realize that there are not just two parties in politics?

And out of curiosity, how many of you vote at the local level? Or you do you just show up every 4 years for the presidential elections, if that? Surely you're aware the LOCAL candidates are FAR MORE influential in passing laws than the president is??

Mr.Fiction

That is bullshit on so many levels. The Supreme Court decides which laws are constitutional. The president nominates the Supreme Court.

If you help Bush get elected, then you are responsible if another right wing justice tips the scales toward the 5/4 split which believes online porn should be illegal.

Justice Scalia said recently that he believes that the entire online porn business can be banned without violating the consitution. That is called judicial activism and Bush supports it.

You think the Democrats want to take your money? Someone is going to have to pay back all of the money that Bush is spending. Either you will have to do it, or your kids will. What kind of person wants to get a tax break so that the next generation can pay it back?

If Democrats want your money, then Republicans want to take your freedom.

If you prefer money to freedom, then by all means, support Bush.

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EviLSuperstaR

VERY well said!

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ronbotx

Besides twisting what I say, apparently you like to take things out of context and delete entire paragraphs..?

You left this out...

"You never provided a name of one of the Swiftvets who was in the anti McCain ad did you? You can't.
As I stated before *sigh* , Merrie Spaeth is their hired Media Consultant and nothing more. She did not found the group. Rear Admiral Hoffman and John O'Neill did. Spaeth has denied any connection to the MCCain ads. Even if she did have a connection, it is irrelevant. You are a parrot echoing the DNC party line."

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And on your second point:

"You can tell when the right wing is scared to death about losing the election. They resort to the most outrageous idiotic attacks on the candidate from THIRTY years ago. Fuck, forget aobut talking about TODAY and TODAY'S issues & plans! Let's go MUCK about what may or may not have happened 30 years ago."

But who is it that during the Democratic Convention decided to ignore the last 20 years and dwell on his four months in Nam? What is Bush, The SwiftVets, Dick Cheney, or Mickey Mouse.... no it was Kerry.

Why:

Let me enlighten you yet again:

"Personally, I think a candidate should stand on his legislative record. In Kerry's case though, he wants us to forget his last twenty years of his anti-miltary, anti-defense, anti-intelligence, and pro-tax votes. He wants us to forget that he is the #1 liberal in the senate. He has magically transformed himself from a medal tossing, anti-war activist in the seventies with contempt for the miltary to a war hero in 2004 complete with Steven Spielberg video. Now that the cornerstone of his latest "recreation" is being questioned, he and his minions are in a panic."


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lim_joe

well.. just think about BUSH where is the WMD????

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dig420

The funny thing about your posts, Ronsheep, is that you keep saying things like 'let me enlighten you' while you're totally ignoring facts thrust in your face over and over. Why don't you go do some reading instead of making everybody cut and paste the same shit over and over?

What's with you republicans and your weak reading comprehension?



I'm presenting these stats in graphical format, easier to understand for the conservatives and 'libertarians' in this thread

lim_joe

make sense now ...

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sacX

well I take it your referring to MaxCash in one instance (Peaches and maxcash rings a bell for some reason).

The problem they had with the FTC wasn't to do with obscenity it was to do with mousetrapping and dialers, was it not?

KRL

Its a question of aggression Peaches. There is no way you can say this industry is safer with an ultra right wing admin like we have now vs. a more left to center admin like Kerry will be.

I got nailed during when fucking Ed Meese,ran the DOJ, another right winger anti-porn to the extreme guy.

So its true, you still will have things to be careful of, but they will be far less with the Democrats in power than the Republicans.

Plus more important than anything are the Supreme Court nominations. Its absolutely critical to our civil liberties to get moderates in there.

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Peaches

Personally, there are WAY too many things Kerry HAS SAID he will do if president that worry me just as much.

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tony286

Peaches : Personally, there are WAY too many things Kerry HAS SAID he will do if president that worry me just as much.

Isnt it funny you show her that this is truth not liberal bullshit and she changes the subject lol.

Peaches

Where did I change the subject?

I do not agree with KRL. I was TRYING to be as diplomatic as possible w/o coming right out and saying it, but thanks for pushing me

tony286

Thats a good point also if you can make 6 figures in the mainstream world why be here if your strictly on the business side of the house . Selling some porn program or working for a fortune 500 or 1000 making 6 figures there is no thought lol.

tony286

What is there not to agree with? He dealt with the DOJ under Meese are you saying he is lying?

ronbotx

Peaches

Disagreeing with him is saying he's lying?

In fact, since you DID accuse me of changing the subject , here's what he said that I disagree with and I responded to directly:

tony286

The funny thing if some democratic group and it was Bush who had been in Vietnam. .They would be calling for blood and saying how unpatriotic the democratics are and how they have no repsect for the men and women in uniform.

Peaches

I can assure you've I've made more in porn than I did in mainstream and as I said, porn is less than half of my income currently (which, admittedly, has only been in the past few months).

I started working in porn so I could work at home and I ended up making more than I was making in the corporate world. It was a win/win situation. Heck, at first I making LESS than I was in the corporate world, but I hated spending hours getting to and from work, I hated wearing a suit every day, I hated going to useless meetings, I hated asking for time off when I had a migraine, hehehe.

I don't do it because I love pornography nor do I plan on it being a lifelong career.

Right now it's easy money When that changes, so will I

Centurion

You are walking oxymoron.

Above you say we should concentrate on a person's legislative
record, but you even started off on the Swift Boat situation and continue down that road.

And I'm fucking GLAD he's a liberal..looks what a "conservative" has given us in the last 4 years. Want to talk about just records then..fine, I'll compare Kerry's last 4 to Bush's anytime!

Centurion

Like what in regards to the adult industry?

tony286

Cool then become my wifes mentor

Peaches

I have a lot more in my life besides this one industry, lol!

Three things that come to mind right off the bat:

National Heathcare

Passing laws to prohibit companies from being more profitable by outsourcing jobs, which, BTW, WOULD include the adult industry.

Spending more money on schools when it's clear money is not the answer

Mr.Fiction

You are truly brainwashed.

You have already admitted that you support money over freedom and now you say you don't want more money in the education system.

How can you possibly say that more money won't help when class sizes are huge and the only solution to that is more teachers?

One of your problems with Kerry is that he wants children to get a better education.

You are against freedom and education but for money in your pocket that your kids will have to pay back. You do sound like a perfect Republican.

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