That analogy is too stupid for me to comment on. But to answer your question, no, I don't consider it disfigurement. Disfigurement implies deformity. A circumcised penis is not a deformity.

I'm circumcised. The doctors actually did it by mistake when I should have another operation in the stomach. 12 years ago now and I must admit I like this a lot better than the "normal" way.


But such a thing calls for both to agree about it and if you think it's a bad idea your wife should at least give it a rest for a while. There is no idea in being circumcised unless you really got a problem down there. I didn't have a problem but they fucked up and today it really doesn't matter to me.

Well the sex got 10 times better :)

why are they morons because of religious reasons?

How is it a stupid analogy?

Both are part of the body. Both serve a purpose.

Please explain.

It is a perfectly valid reason. But it's only valid if there is a God and that God has ordained circumcision. Many people believe that this is the case. What you are really saying is that people who believe in God are morons. They would say that people like you who don't are fools.

Because they won't find other reasons to explain why they did it. Someone who isn't open minded or someone who isn't respectful of the human body is a complete moron. Religion should never be a blind excuse to harm someone. Especially innocent babies that can't decide for themselves.

i say circumcise the little guy... uncut is gross :2 cents:

Question: Why do women not like Un-cut penis?

Answer: Who fucking cares? since when did they ever want us having pleasure?

Honestly if it wasnt such a Look thing.. more males would be uncut.. it feels so much better.

When you send a solidor into unknown territory, they ALWAYS wear helmets.

how are they harming him? He is residing in the US and the girls I know and have asked this question much rather have a circumsized guy. I guess its a never ending battle, carry on with flaming each other, this debate will go nowhere:2 cents:

.. and why would it get "much harder"?

i think the jews cut there own skin because its like a sacrifice saying we are sorry jesus we really do believe you.. yet they still deny it!

If you can't figure it out by yourself, ......

Removing the ears damages our ability to process auditory stimuli, and thus would significantly impair our ability to function in the environment. It would also impair our ability to communicate since we process incoming language data via the auditory system.

Circumcision was a jewish ritual long before the time of Christ.

Let's look a little further, shall we?

Genesis 17
[9] And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
[10] This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
[11] And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
[12] And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
[13] He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
[14] And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.


Deuteronomy
[27] And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh.
[28] Observe and hear all these words which I command thee, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee for ever, when thou doest that which is good and right in the sight of the LORD thy God.

So.. am I to assume you have your sacrificial altar at home fully stocked with offerings? Remember, you're not allowed to eat the blood, only the flesh!

:thumbsup

FUCK OFF, NEWB! FUCKING BIGGOT!

Boobmaster is what i like to call a selective christian. He can agree with certain parts of the bible, and disagree with other parts, and that's fine. But if somenoe happens to disagree with what he believes, then they are a filthy heathen. I don't thinkhe even realises the irony.

Yah it's funny how religous people pick and chose (and modify) stuff from the bible

whatever, they always want to be differant... who was the idiot who thought about this one.. "hmm i wonder what happens if i cut a peice of my dick off, oh look moses, i got more chicks then you now!"

Answer me this - am I wrong or am I right?

Then look at yourself in a mirror and tell yourself if I'm wrong or if I'm right.

You're an idiot who clearly doesn't understand the basic tenants of christianity. Christans believe that Jesus Christ, THE LAMB OF GOD, was the final sacrifice for all sin. As a result, there is no longer a need to make offerings like this to God since all sin is forgiven through the finished work of Christ. Circumcision was an 'everlasting covenant'.

Do the kid a favor, cut it.

Get him cut, if not he will regret it when he's older.

do you type that badly on purpose? :winkwink:

1. soldier, not solidor

2. different, not differant

3. piece, not peice

4. than, not then

You just called Elli an idiot.. :1orglaugh

Do you even know how pathetic you are?

You just lost all your credibility on this board (it's not like you had any). :glugglug

What you are is an idiot. People like you who see a great Jewish conspiracy in everything are beyond reasoning with. This kind of thinking is what led to the Holocaust.

Isn't there some hate site you could be visiting right now?

:1orglaugh
Like I said, you are one fucked in the head individual!

Why do people still follow a book that was written thousands of years ago... By people who, when something unexplainable happened, always attributeded it god being up to something.

Remember everyone thought the world was flat?

Remember the plague was a punishment from god?

It's all been solved through science and good ole' exploration.

One day when the bible is no longer around, and religeon no longer exists, and people no longer believe they've actually got something to look forward to after death.. That is the day man will truely be free.

Edit: And the day circumsision is no longer in existence, and people no longer find a natural part of the male body nasty, is the day people with common sense will finally prevail.

whet do you mean? my english is vary wall thank you!

If men really thought they could get more women and pleasure women more affectively being cut, the hospitals would be overloaded with men trying to get cut tommorrow. Men like to get laid as often as possible and like to know they pleasure their partners.

The fact is that for most of us who are uncut, we prefer it this way because we don't experience problems with cleanliness nor do we face problems of rejection by females that have an irrational averse reaction to a small piece of extra skin. We're rewarded for it :)

I'm a Christian zionist.....baaaaaa....end of days are coming

this is when the world will be over

hahaha... at least you have a sense of humour about it :thumbsup

Lost credibility? :1orglaugh

Perhaps I am bneing a bit free with the term idiot. He made a logical argument, but it was based on a misunderstanding of what Christianity teaches. So he's not an idiot, but his argument is invalid.

Now that is extremely funny. For a period of about two years I was a fully converted born again Christian. I read the Bible front to back and passed Confirmation class with flying colours.

Where does it say that ritual sacrifices were replaced or negated by Christ's death? I missed that part.

And I sincerely hope you don't wear blended threads. That's a serious no-no. No polyester or nylon for you!

Elli is a woman. Maybe that's the reason why you have a biased opinion, you don't know the difference between a vagina and a penis.

:glugglug

He? Elli's picture is in her sig :1orglaugh

Hehe! The day religion ceases to exist will be the day that man ceases to exist.

Your claims, btw, are false. Nowhere in the bible does it say that the earth is flat. The people who interpret it that way do not understand the literary conventions being employed by the authors.

Also, just because we can scientifically understand the cauase of a plague doesn't mean that God didn't have something to do with it, if in fact he did.

One of these days, you are going to wake up and suddenly realize it was all true. By then it will be too late for you to do anything about it.

I eagerly await my spot in hell, for spening eternity with people as gullable as you would be hell in itself.

OMG You sick fukin Jewish mohel's - How could you suck on an infants penis

Herpes Risk from Ancient Form of
Circumcision

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...n_dc&printer=1

Wed Aug 4, 3:33 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Eight infants developed genital herpes following an ancient Jewish ritual of circumcision, highlighting the dangers associated with this procedure, researchers report.

All of the infants underwent a form of circumcision in which the circumciser, or mohel, takes wine in his mouth and sucks the blood from the newly created wound, then spits the blood and wine mixture into a receptacle. The circumciser repeats this procedure, known as metzitzah, until the bleeding stops.

Currently, only a minority of mohels practice metzitzah, with most now opting for a suction device to remove blood from the wound, according to the report in the journal Pediatrics.

The eight infants developed genital herpes between 4 and 11 days after the procedure. Of four mohels who performed the circumcisions and agreed to be tested, all carried antibodies to herpes simplex virus type 1, indicating they were infected.

Herpes simplex virus type 1 is the strain that's the usual cause of oral herpes sores, but it can also cause genital infections.

These findings suggest that circumcisions that include metzitzah carry a "serious risk" for transmission of herpes from the mouths of circumcisers to the genitals of infants, lead author Dr. Benjamin Gesundheit of Ben-Gurion University in Israel and his colleagues write.

"The cultural process of replacing ancient customs by modern wound care has to be encouraged by a heightened awareness of this potentially life-threatening medical complication," they add.

After they developed genital herpes, 6 of the 8 infants received an intravenous infusion of acyclovir, an antiviral drug that is commonly used to treat herpes. Nonetheless, four of the infants experienced recurrent outbreaks of genital herpes.

In one infant, the herpes virus spread to the brain, causing long-term brain damage

The authors note that the virus can be secreted in saliva for several days to weeks and can appear in the saliva of people who show no symptoms of infection, or cold sore on the mouth, they note.

"We suspect, therefore, that this entity is underreported for cultural reasons and that the studies described here are only the 'tip of the iceberg' of the true incidence of the disease," they write.

Gesundheit and his colleagues add that, in 2002, the Chief Rabbinate of Israel okayed the use of suction devices to remove blood from the circumcision wound in situations where there is a risk of spreading disease.

"We support ritual circumcision but without oral metzitzah," the authors write.

sadly enough NoCarrier, I feel that poor child would have been left brain damaged reguardless of the STD or not. Kids raised by very religeous parents tend to contract the religeous disease as well. However, some people break out of the shell and realise Boobmaster is going to hell just like the rest of us, seeing as he makes money off of sin.

*licks finger and touches ass* pssssss ZING THAT WAS HOT.

"Herpes Risk from Ancient Form of
Circumcision"

I this your good 'ol god in action again; Booby?

Boobmaster, it's your turn.

Do you wear blended threads?

Ok all you webmasters, start hiring people with un-cut dicks.. also stop hiring guys with bigger dicks... this way in 10-20 years women will love small and uncut dicks.. yeah and god ownz you, you wish for hell? trust me you will get it.. and wont you regret it..

hhahahha that's hilarious! Nicely done!

:1orglaugh

Are you really trying hard to look like an idiot or is it in your DNA?

The flat earth theory was hundreds or years after.. He was using that example to show how fucking clueless humans were at that time.. Now can you imagine how clueless people were 2000 years ago..

I shouldn't have called you an idiot. I apologize for that. Somethimes these threads get me really worked up.

If you were a born again Christian, as you claim, I am surprised that you did not know this. It is one of the fundamental teachings of the faith.


Hebrews 10

Christ's Sacrifice Once for All

1The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming--not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2If it could, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins, 4because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
5Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:
___"Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
_______but a body you prepared for me;
___ 6with burnt offerings and sin offerings
_______you were not pleased.
___ 7Then I said, 'Here I am--it is written about me in the scroll--
_______I have come to do your will, O God.' "[1] 8First he said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them" (although the law required them to be made). 9Then he said, "Here I am, I have come to do your will." He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. 13Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, 14because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.
15The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:
___ 16"This is the covenant I will make with them
_______after that time, says the Lord.
___I will put my laws in their hearts,
_______and I will write them on their minds."[2] 17Then he adds:
___"Their sins and lawless acts
_______I will remember no more."[3] 18And where these have been forgiven, there is no longer any sacrifice for sin.

Thank you :)

(we're still pretty fucking clueless in my opinion). :glugglug

Want to convince your wife not to do it??

Google for pictures of the procedure.. the screaming baby, strapped down with his penis bleeding was a enough for me to say NO FUCKING WAY THEY ARE DOING THAT TO MY SON!!!!

If she's worried about him being "different" tell her when he gets older, he can tell girls that they have to check his pecker out because it's better than all the other guys.

My philosophy was, if it wasn't supposed to be there, you wouldn't be born with it. Case closed.