Did Mary Kay Letourneau deserve 7.5 years in jail? - GoFuckYourself.com

Goatse · 08-05-2004, 01:20 PM

Discuss.

Inde · 08-05-2004, 01:22 PM

Yes. She got off light. Imagine if the roles were reversed. A guy would have got 20 years.

MickeyG · 08-05-2004, 01:23 PM

the only crime was she got caught. Lucky kid..

ronaldo · 08-05-2004, 01:24 PM

If it was a male teacher nailing an underage female student, he'd have gotten at least that long, so yes.

Linguist · 08-05-2004, 01:27 PM

Holy shit... 7.5 years

I think that's a tad too much.. considering both of them wanted to do it... the dude could have said no

TheJimmy · 08-05-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by MickeyG
.... Lucky kid..

pretty much yeh, she was cute...

Goatse · 08-05-2004, 01:34 PM

I agree that if the roles had been reversed, the sentence would have been harsher. Then again, looking at it from a rational standpoint, I think she got a raw deal because she didn't harm anyone, and the relationship was consensual (though not in the legal sense). It seems like a waste of money to put a woman in prison for the mere act of having sex when there are violent offenders out there roaming the streets. And yes, my feelings concerning male statutory rapists are similar. Once two sexually mature people decide to have sex, the State shouldn't have the right to play God and decide what is right or wrong.

pornstar2pac · 08-05-2004, 01:35 PM

wonder if she'll do any milf sites in the future...

ronaldo · 08-05-2004, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by Goatse
Once two sexually mature people decide to have sex, the State shouldn't have the right to play God and decide what is right or wrong.

What age do you consider to be "Mature".

Laws are put on the books to protect those that may not be able or mature enough to think for themselves.

Same as 2257 is there to protect the underage models....haha, my god, I couldn't even type that with a straight face

Doctor Dre · 08-05-2004, 01:57 PM

God 7.5 years ? No I don't think so ...

Goatse · 08-05-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by ronaldo
What age do you consider to be "Mature".

That's the problem. Some people can handle sexual relationships when they're 12-13 years old, while others NEVER acquire the emotional maturity to deal with intimacy. Each case is different and should be judged as such. Common sense should prevail.

Vitasoy · 08-05-2004, 02:01 PM

No, she should have only got community service

Fred Quimby · 08-05-2004, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Inde
Yes. She got off light. Imagine if the roles were reversed. A guy would have got 20 years.

what he said

ronaldo · 08-05-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Goatse
That's the problem. Some people can handle sexual relationships when they're 12-13 years old, while others NEVER acquire the emotional maturity to deal with intimacy. Each case is different and should be judged as such. Common sense should prevail.

Um okay, I agree with that statement, but am concerned that your previous statement makes it appear that you would think it's okay for a male teacher to have a sexual relationship with a 12 year old student if it was consensual.

Did I read you right there?

jennym · 08-05-2004, 02:24 PM

No she did not deserve 7.5 years....she deserved much fucking more! If it was my kid, she may not have had to worry about prison. She was 35 and he was 13!

13 FUCKING YEARS OLD!!!

Geez, how can some of you even consider that acceptable?

Goatse · 08-05-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by ronaldo
Um okay, I agree with that statement, but am concerned that your previous statement makes it appear that you would think it's okay for a male teacher to have a sexual relationship with a 12 year old student if it was consensual.

It wouldn't be ok, but I don't think a man in such a position should go to prison (depending on the specifics of the case). Granted, he shouldn't have the right to remain a teacher either.

Like I said, every case is different. If there's any trace of coercion, then jail time is perfectly justified.

lim_joe · 08-05-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Inde
Yes. She got off light. Imagine if the roles were reversed. A guy would have got 20 years.
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Originally posted by Fred Quimby
what he said

i agree!!!!

jennym · 08-05-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by Goatse
It wouldn't be ok, but I don't think a man in such a position should go to prison...

Are you fucking serious? If a 35 year old man (authority figure in her life) fucked a 13 year old CHILD, you don't think he should go to prison??? You must not have children....or a brain.

On-top · 08-05-2004, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by jennym
Geez, how can some of you even consider that acceptable?

People in other parts of the world are married and popping out kids at 13. It's all relative.

Kassidy · 08-05-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Sjelefall
Holy shit... 7.5 years

I think that's a tad too much.. considering both of them wanted to do it... the dude could have said no

He was 12. Would you be saying the same thing if it was a 12 year old little girl?

She got off easy.

Kassidy · 08-05-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Goatse
I agree that if the roles had been reversed, the sentence would have been harsher. Then again, looking at it from a rational standpoint, I think she got a raw deal because she didn't harm anyone, and the relationship was consensual (though not in the legal sense). It seems like a waste of money to put a woman in prison for the mere act of having sex when there are violent offenders out there roaming the streets. And yes, my feelings concerning male statutory rapists are similar. Once two sexually mature people decide to have sex, the State shouldn't have the right to play God and decide what is right or wrong.

Putting her in jail was the only way they could keep her away from him until he was old enough to make a mature decision on his own. She did get off on a conditional sentence and comminuty service, but she violated her orders and her release was revoked.

Now that he's 21, he's old enough to choose for himself what kind of relationship he wants to have with her. A 12/13/14 year old boy doesn't have the maturity to make those decisions.

Goatse · 08-05-2004, 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by jennym
Are you fucking serious? If a 35 year old man (authority figure in her life) fucked a 13 year old CHILD, you don't think he should go to prison??? .

I'm looking at it from my own perspective as someone who was once 13. When I was that age, I was ready for a sexual relationship. If an attractive adult woman had shown any interest in me, I would happily have made a move of my own. Had a sexual relationship resulted from it, would I have felt like a rape victim? No. Would I have been abused? Certainly not. Should the woman have been punished? I can't see why. Could I have been coerced? Not one bit, as I was mature enough to make my own decisions. In essence, I was every bit as ready for a relationship at 13 as I was at 18.

Your comment about me not having children is irrelevant because the decision to become sexually active is entirely personal. As much as I would like my future children to wait until their early 20's to have sex, I know that they could very well decide to start at 14 -- and there's not a damn thing I can do about it.

I saw Villi (or whatever his name is) on the Today Show and he seemed like an average Pacific Islander to me. He doen't look traumatized or scarred by the experience.

jennym · 08-05-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Goatse
I'm looking at it from my own perspective as someone who was once 13. When I was that age, I was ready for a sexual relationship. If an attractive adult woman had shown any interest in me, I would happily have made a move of my own. Had a sexual relationship resulted from it, would I have felt like a rape victim? No. Would I have been abused? Certainly not. Should the woman have been punished? I can't see why. Could I have been coerced? Not one bit, as I was mature enough to make my own decisions. In essence, I was every bit as ready for a relationship at 13 as I was at 18.

If you believe that at 13 years old you were mentally prepared to make such decisions, then you are probably still very young. Granted, you may not have been traumatized, but you were still a CHILD.

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Originally posted by Goatse

Your comment about me not having children is irrelevant because the decision to become sexually active is entirely personal. As much as I would like my future children to wait until their early 20's to have sex, I know that they could very well decide to start at 14 -- and there's not a damn thing I can do about it.

Of course children will decide to do what they want, when they want. And, if my child has sex at a young age with someone else of a young age, then I won't have to kill anybody. But she was in her 30's with children near his age. Whether he knew better or not....SHE should have known better

rambler · 08-05-2004, 03:27 PM

I think back when I was 12 and my older sister's friend(18) was all over me ; man I thought I was gonna get some until my sister came in and put an end to it and told my parents (she thought she was doing me a favor) Well I'm still fucking pissed off to this day ; that bitch was hot! I don't think I can ever forgive my sister

EviLGuY · 08-05-2004, 03:37 PM

With good behaviour and what not she'll be out in half that probably.. sounds fair to me.

Many, many guys have went to prison for banging underage willing females.

jennym · 08-05-2004, 03:41 PM

Goatse
How would you feel if your 12 year old son had a sexual relationship with his 35 year old male teacher?

Would you just say "That's my boy! He is old enough and mature enough to make his own sexual decisions!"

Goatse · 08-05-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
With good behaviour and what not she'll be out in half that probably.. sounds fair to me.

She already IS out. She was freed yesterday, I believe. I give her 6 months to get pregnant by the same guy again.

boneprone · 08-05-2004, 03:45 PM

i fucked her

Goatse · 08-05-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by jennym
Goatse
How would you feel if your 12 year old son had a sexual relationship with his 35 year old male teacher?

Would you just say "That's my boy! He is old enough and mature enough to make his own sexual decisions!"

I'd be very disappointed and I'd have long discussions with my son to see whether he's a homosexual or if he was simply coerced by an adult. If my son were truly in love and the older man in question treated him with genuine love and kindness, I would actually try to accept the relationship. It there was any sign of coercion, I would obviously call the cops and most likely file a civil lawsuit. I'd keep a close eye all the way, but I wouldn't pull the trigger too hastily.

Deepai · 08-05-2004, 03:59 PM

my ex was his g/f at the time that stuff happened, and a friend was in the 6th grade class with Villi and Letearno. Funny going to my friends house and seeing pics of them both during that year.....

korzon · 08-05-2004, 04:02 PM

jennym · 08-05-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Goatse
I'd be very disappointed and I'd have long discussions with my son to see whether he's a homosexual or if he was simply coerced by an adult. If my son were truly in love and the older man in question treated him with genuine love and kindness, I would actually try to accept the relationship. It there was any sign of coercion, I would obviously call the cops and most likely file a civil lawsuit. I'd keep a close eye all the way, but I wouldn't pull the trigger too hastily.

So this would be your reaction if your 12 year old son had sex with a 35 year old male teacher??

I SERIOUSLY hope you never have children. But if you do, then I hope like everyone else - your opinions change.

Diabolical Cord · 08-05-2004, 04:05 PM

He's already asked the judge to allow her to see him.

jennym · 08-05-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Diabolical Cord
He's already asked the judge to allow her to see him.

He has her children, I am sure they will have to be "around" each other at some point.

As for Goatse saying he "seems normal"

If you call
21
no education
children 6 and 7 years old
been through a nationally exposed sex scandal and trial

normal, then I guess he is normal.

DaveM · 08-05-2004, 04:32 PM

She needs to be in a psych ward where she can get some help. If you read the letters she sent this kid from prison and some of the things she has said publicly its obvious she's seriously disturbed.

Joesho · 08-05-2004, 04:37 PM

No I think she got fucked LOL pun intended of course LOL

GatorB · 08-05-2004, 05:02 PM

For those of you that said the kid was lucky. Yeah real lucky now he's 21 and has 2 kids in grade school. Most of his buddies are kid free and fucking fine young pussy. Well what if that was your kid. What if YOU had to pay the child support for your grandkid because your kid is 14 adn can't get a job. Or what if that slut gave your kids herpes or AIDS. Would it be ok then? If it's ok for your son can I come over and fuck your 14 year old daughter? Would she be just as lucky?

Greg B · 08-05-2004, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
For those of you that said the kid was lucky. Yeah real lucky now he's 21 and has 2 kids in grade school. Most of his buddies are kid free and fucking fine young pussy. Well what if that was your kid. What if YOU had to pay the child support for your grandkid because your kid is 14 adn can't get a job. Or what if that slut gave your kids herpes or AIDS. Would it be ok then? If it's ok for your son can I come over and fuck your 14 year old daughter? Would she be just as lucky?

GatorB puttin' it down cause he can! Power...

Her ass should put out a MILF site where she snags onto dudes. When she was in her prime she was all that. Ain't seen a pic of her yet though.

She fucked up. Plain and simple. And you guys are right, if she was a dude they woulda thrown the fucking book at her.

Double standard bullshit legal system.

Nate-MM2 · 08-05-2004, 05:42 PM

Keep in mind the 7.5 years was because she violated her release order by seeing him, fucking him, and having ANOTHER kid after she was ordered not to have contact with him.

Trixie · 08-05-2004, 06:06 PM

No she did not deserve 7 years. She deserves life in prison to keep her away from kids. She is a predator and had been grooming her student FROM THE TIME HE WAS IN 2ND GRADE. She's totally fucked up and now so is that kid AND the kid they bred together.

If you've read any of the stuff about her, it's not just the case of an innocent mistake or poor judgement. It's not a case of a kid who was reasonably old enough to reciprocate her interest. It's a case of her grooming him from the time he was very young, taking advantage of her power as a teacher and respected adult, etc. She's a fucking nutcase and a menace to society.

Poppy · 08-05-2004, 06:22 PM

She got off VERY light.

Firehorse · 08-06-2004, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by jennym
No she did not deserve 7.5 years....she deserved much fucking more! If it was my kid, she may not have had to worry about prison. She was 35 and he was 13!

13 FUCKING YEARS OLD!!!

Geez, how can some of you even consider that acceptable?

I agree. My son is 13 and I have very strong feeling about any older sexual predators. She was a Teacher in a position of trust who had sex with a 13 year old boy. Regardless of gender, that is a long way from being acceptable!

Firehorse · 08-06-2004, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Trixie
No she did not deserve 7 years. She deserves life in prison to keep her away from kids. She is a predator and had been grooming her student FROM THE TIME HE WAS IN 2ND GRADE. She's totally fucked up and now so is that kid AND the kid they bred together.

If you've read any of the stuff about her, it's not just the case of an innocent mistake or poor judgement. It's not a case of a kid who was reasonably old enough to reciprocate her interest. It's a case of her grooming him from the time he was very young, taking advantage of her power as a teacher and respected adult, etc. She's a fucking nutcase and a menace to society.

Trixie, I was posting at the same time and missed this post by you. Now that I have read it. I agree that is beyond sick and 7 years is not long enough!

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Inde Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 983	Yes. She got off light. Imagine if the roles were reversed. A guy would have got 20 years.

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MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	the only crime was she got caught. Lucky kid..

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ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	If it was a male teacher nailing an underage female student, he'd have gotten at least that long, so yes.

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Goatse Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,086	I agree that if the roles had been reversed, the sentence would have been harsher. Then again, looking at it from a rational standpoint, I think she got a raw deal because she didn't harm anyone, and the relationship was consensual (though not in the legal sense). It seems like a waste of money to put a woman in prison for the mere act of having sex when there are violent offenders out there roaming the streets. And yes, my feelings concerning male statutory rapists are similar. Once two sexually mature people decide to have sex, the State shouldn't have the right to play God and decide what is right or wrong.

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jennym Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: the south Posts: 1,622	No she did not deserve 7.5 years....she deserved much fucking more! If it was my kid, she may not have had to worry about prison. She was 35 and he was 13! 13 FUCKING YEARS OLD!!! Geez, how can some of you even consider that acceptable?

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rambler Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: vancouver Posts: 745	I think back when I was 12 and my older sister's friend(18) was all over me ; man I thought I was gonna get some until my sister came in and put an end to it and told my parents (she thought she was doing me a favor) Well I'm still fucking pissed off to this day ; that bitch was hot! I don't think I can ever forgive my sister

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EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	With good behaviour and what not she'll be out in half that probably.. sounds fair to me. Many, many guys have went to prison for banging underage willing females.

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jennym Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: the south Posts: 1,622	Goatse How would you feel if your 12 year old son had a sexual relationship with his 35 year old male teacher? Would you just say "That's my boy! He is old enough and mature enough to make his own sexual decisions!"

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Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	Keep in mind the 7.5 years was because she violated her release order by seeing him, fucking him, and having ANOTHER kid after she was ordered not to have contact with him.

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Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	No she did not deserve 7 years. She deserves life in prison to keep her away from kids. She is a predator and had been grooming her student FROM THE TIME HE WAS IN 2ND GRADE. She's totally fucked up and now so is that kid AND the kid they bred together. If you've read any of the stuff about her, it's not just the case of an innocent mistake or poor judgement. It's not a case of a kid who was reasonably old enough to reciprocate her interest. It's a case of her grooming him from the time he was very young, taking advantage of her power as a teacher and respected adult, etc. She's a fucking nutcase and a menace to society. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

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