Well said. This industry is mind boggling sometimes.

LMAO

the guys with traffic know the deal a few might belive the bullshit

1) This is not my site, trust me, if it was me running it you would of been fighting a lawsuit right now....

2) From what I heared, your 2 signups a month doesn't cut it.

amazing

I don't know jeff but Pornkings has always paid me with good $$ for my traffic. I don't want o be signed up under the other guy where are the links in the pornkings set up or what is the place I sign up?

Well, it was pretty clear what happened. The rebill situation, the checks that came back and the model that didnt get paid. Those were the issues we had. Since then, we have fixed the rebill situation ( did that on Jan 4th of this year actually ) Paid back double to the affiliates that came forward and showed their lost rebills (Still have one guy owed about $200.00.. just waiting on his wire info email) and we cleared the situations with the models. All debts are settled and were paid by me. All the checks that were returned were paid back in full including any fee's that may have been occured.

All future finaincal and accounting issues are handled by Pornkings and their accounting department. All models, affiliates (other the ccbill revshare joins), designers are paid by pornkings... they handle all our finanical affairs.

I am here to do what i do best... shoot content and work great traffic deals with great programs. In a very short period of time... I have tripled the daily sales rate and trilpled the traffic of Perfection Cash's highest days ever. Going great so far.

Thanks again and... See Sig :)

i have trouble trusting sponsors a first time. a second time? no fucking way.

And you would expect anything less from Steve Lightspeed? The guy who can not even go to shows any more because he could not keep his dick in his pants.

Good luck guys. :)

lol....too funny

Not trying to get in this or start shit by any means, because seriously it was a waste to even look at this thread, but seriously, when Jeff speaks, who the hell is "we"??? Because if it is "we" as Jeff and Pornkings, I am almost positive that Pornkings didn't write any bad checks or ripped people off. So I was just checking.

LMAO:1orglaugh That was funny...

But staying on the topic at hand. From an outsiders point of view, it appears this Jeff guy has been a scammer from the start, and once a scammer always a scammer. Now you have this Pornkings getting involved and basically ruining their reputation by being an Idiot and getting involved with a known scammer. I'm sure glsd I never dealt with either of these people, bad Karma all around:2 cents: :2 cents:

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Okay, I gotta say this..... is there some unspoken thing that I missed on why we don't ever mention the whole uproar about you having underage models on your sites a few years ago?

Jeff, you know full well there are threads on this very board where a boatload of webmasters were bashing you severely about the under 18 "non-nude" pay sites. You yourself started a thread back then to complain about the crackdown on them. To me that was a pretty big red flag back in the day, and I'm sitting here wondering why everyone seems to just be leaving that tidbit out completely, like it's taboo to mention or something.


Look, if I missed something about this and I'm wrong then I'll say I'm sorry right now, I can't read every single thread on every board to keep up with this shit.

But if I didn't, well...... if you're going to come clean and admit your mistakes and take things in a new honest direction, at least own up to all of it.


Roger --- You bought into this knowing full well there were some pretty heavy hard feelings and controversy over Jeff and his company, so I wish you wouldn't get too bent out of shape when a guy like Fletch voices what he knows to be very serious questions here. You HAD to expect that people who have been around here for a long time who have been paying the lest attention would remember some of the shit that went on with Jeff.

I'm all for keeping the conversation civil.

guess not

I like this line

"It wasn?t easy, but doing the right thing isn?t always a cake walk."

Doing things right is soooo easy.

No Arika... when I say "we" I an refering the the people that were involved in the past. Not the present situations. No, of course not. Just an fyi though... those checks you mentioned... there were 5 of them total and yes.. each and everyone of them were paid... inculding any fees they may have incured from there bank. As for ripping people off... everyone was paid in full and any issues were resolved. :)


Now, everyone... go send traffic to Arikas site! Hottest teen amateur out there.

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Is it too late for prime time positioning in this thread?

Wouldn't the right thing be then, Jeff, since your coming "clean" and everything, who the other people involved were? It makes sense to me. But remember the check that you sent me that couldn't be cashed, I do believe that it was signed by you. Oh yea, I still have that check. :1orglaugh
Also do you remember when you told me that a check was on it's way, and a week later I had still not received it? So you told me you would send me another check (bounced...go figure :) ) I never received that first check that you "sent". Maybe it is still lost in the mail or something...who know.

Just remember you signed the check Jeff...YOU.


I'm done now, should have never of gotten in this thread in the first place. I apologize for interrupting....carry on :)

100

Someone who can count. Awesome.


Somebody get this man a cookie.

Ahh, completely forgot about this, but I remember this also...

True enough Arika. It sucked, but you were paid in full.... just for the record. You did get paid correct? I know it wasnt ontime, but we did pay you the amount agreed upon... am I correct? We dont want anyone thinking that you didnt get paid.

Arika, I had people that worked for me. Did they sign the checks, no of course not. I have never placed blame on anyone but myself. "We" Perfection Cash was/is a group of people, models, employees and the like. Were the responsible for the check... no, of course not, but never said they were. I said... "I take full responsiblity for the mistakes and errors that occured with Perfection Cash"

Cool?

CDSmith.. to answer your question:

I have never, not even once had a minor pose on one of my sites. Ever! Now, we did have a site, my very first to be exact that was of a girl named Katie. She was 19 years old and she did look younger as many 19 year olds do. We pushed her site as a girl that was 17 on a non-nude platform. it was dumb, but it was in April of 2001 and I was totally ignorant to the adult webmaster world. I have stated this about 50,000 times on here. hehe It wasnt the smartest move, but it was shot and built well before I found the boards and new of a webmaster community. That post you are referring to was my very first post here on GFY. I got the letter from CCbill about them not processing those site anymore, even if the model was of legal age. I was pissed that i got no notice and posted it on the boards. I plain didnt know and it was my very first post here. I shut the site down, used the content somewhere else and thats the end of it. I have 2257 complience on ever photo and video of every model that has walked through my doors. Not just the old 2257 guidlines.. the new ones as well. Hope this clears things up for ya and thanks for the question.

See sig! :)

Roger,

You know I like you, Ian, and the whole crew over there, but man this is probably some tough shit to handle from the perspective of people who sent perfection cash joins :(

You, me, mikeai, cd, lens, etc, etc have been around for many years online in this biz, and have seen alot of scammers come and go. I don't know this Jeff guy one bit, but shit I remember reading all the drek on the boards. It Was just a bit more then I think my sponsor shaves a bit, you know what I mean?

I am sure you made a good investment and for that I can't knock you, but belive it from what I read, this Jeff Fellow won't get his rep back anytime soon.

Peace

Todd

Jeff you are a moron, as I recall you deactivated my account with your program when I pointed out some major flaws in your sites (no updates, shitty pic quality, etc) on this board. That in and of itself shows your complete lack of ethics or biz sense.
You also have the balls to say you have repaid all debts, but I am sure I know people you screwed (stealing traffic/models/money) that have gotten nothing useful from you.
I won't bother reading or posting more in this thread, however I will say I know nothing about pornkings program and I feel sorry for them for having you involved now.

btw, your tour images still look like shit and you should have fucking listened to me and fixed them!
http://www.ashleyteen.com/images/fp/...1144_thumb.jpghttp://www.ashleyteen.com/images/fp/Ashley193.jpg

take that 17? Samsung flat screen and shove it straight up your thieving ass.

Anyone here selling the CLiff's Notes version?

MikeAI and Todd covered me

You are an anon and probably a competitor talking shit you mean nothing to me.

If We never had your buisness before we never lost anyhting to begin with.

And trust me I'm going to find out who all the anons are on this thread talking shit and spill the beans. you piece of shit.


Think I can't do it try me.

He ran underage non nude sites. There is a fucking surprise.

Okay, what is at the other end of that link and why should I trust you by clicking it?

Yea I totally got paid. I have never said in months that I hadn't. i will be the first one to admit I got paid in full the amount agreed on. i am not all about bashing people you should know that Jeff.

Thank you for answering my question. i shouldn't have gotten in the thread at all. But I had been wanting to ask who "we" was for awhile, because that is just what you had always said.

You said in your last post "I take full responsiblity for the mistakes and errors that occured with Perfection Cash"
But then in your very first post of this thread you said "We fucked up, and we made mistakes"

true when he is refering to We in the past it had nothing to do with Pornkings

Let make this very clear.

Roger, don't sweat it. There are anon assholes on every contraversial thread, it's a given. I usually just ignore them, and no webmaster worth anything is going to put any stock into what some anon fucker thinks anyway.


Please take note of my comments to you earlier though,
in case you happened to miss them....

Just confirming I got that email, sent off my wire info, looking forward to payment. :)

Right On!!! :thumbsup

Last hurtle crossed :)

But it makes him look so much better picking on Fletch the gallery designer when he speaks his mind about a bad deal most people already know about. A great moment to spam.

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see sig har har har