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Crypt 08-03-2004 03:49 PM

New sites, New Models , New front , New idea

You only forgot a new program name to kill the bad history of the last one ... :2 cents:

Fletch XXX 08-03-2004 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Yes I agree, that is a hard issue to forgive. And I think you've made it clear that you do not intend on sending perfectiongirls any more of your traffic. I think letting pornkings handle the financial part of his program will resolve all the payment issues.

If Jeff owes you money, then you should be repaid. I wish I got repaid every time someone ripped me off...

I am not asking for anything. he (Jeff) claims to only 100$ in rebills were messed up.

I stopped pushing them months back, and ya know what, i STILL HAVE REBILLS coming in...

I was pushing them BEFORE most of you, and had 20+ galleries listed with TOP TGPS pushing MAJOR PARTNER account traffic.

I was even watermarking directories of images because I had CONTENT BEFORE IT WAS EVEN IN THE PAYSITE.

I dont care about money, its getting me to use my name and partner accounts to fuel his sites, meanwhile rebills are turned off... 5 months goes buy, rebills are crap, and then he gets exposed?

yeah, its a bit much to forgive. you people on the sidelines have no clue how jeff worked may of us to get us to dump traffic, as well as USE OUR NAMES to fuel his ship.

on top of that, we were given special treatment to conetn that was not even in the member section yet, he fucked us over... period.

Oracle Porn 08-03-2004 03:58 PM

http://perfectiongirls.com/show_bio.php?id=9

the owner doesn't want you using her in the tour

PerfectionGirls 08-03-2004 04:00 PM

Quote:

Sometimes saying "sorry" does not necessary mean that you are sorry for what you did.
Wasnt going to comment, but will here because you make a valid point.

You are very right. We are very sorry for the rebill issue and we made it right with everyone that let us. We only have one more person that is owen about $200.00 (Rowan) and I am waiting on a returned email from him (sent another yesterday) The $200.00 (or there abouts) is double what we owed him on his missed rebills, because i paid out double to those that we found. All in all there were 27 lost rebills. I paid out of 54. Just to make sure people knew we wanted to do the right thing.

We could have walked away, not paid anyone back. It would have been a shity thing to do. Facing the music, dealing with the problem head on has always been our style. We paid people back, we covered our debts and made one huge sacrifice to do so. We have NOT been perfect in getting this all done and back together, but we did our best and we succeeded. It was truly worth the effort.

I dont feel bad about any sacrifices I made in making these situations right. I know I did the right thing and dispite how people might feel, I can sleep well knowing I did my dead level best in making every situation whole.

Anyways, thanks for everyone comments.. even the negitive ones.

Have a great evening!

Jeff

oh.. see sig! :)

dirtysouth 08-03-2004 04:03 PM

Hell Marion Barry got busted smoking crack with hookers and made it back into office. Anything's possible!

:glugglug

Pornkings 08-03-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Yes I agree, that is a hard issue to forgive. And I think you've made it clear that you do not intend on sending perfectiongirls any more of your traffic. I think letting pornkings handle the financial part of his program will resolve all the payment issues.

If Jeff owes you money, then you should be repaid. I wish I got repaid every time someone ripped me off...

Steve Lightspeed

thats what I'm talking about. :thumbsup

Nubiles 08-03-2004 04:05 PM

Rebills were paid back to affiliates then? Can you confirm that.

Vox 08-03-2004 04:06 PM

"There's an old saying in Tennessee ? I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee ? that says, fool me once, shame on ? shame on you. Fool me ? you can't get fooled again." ?George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

Pornkings 08-03-2004 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
fuck up and turn rebills off and see if we forgive you

I am still bitter about this shit, i dont care if god himself or the fucking queen of england came in here and told me push this crap.

turn off rebills, and I will never forget it.


Have you ever sent to Pornkings?

and why havn't you started your own program? with that many posts and time spent you could have built Pornkings.com

Fletch XXX 08-03-2004 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
Have you ever sent to Pornkings?

and why havn't you started your own program? with that many posts and time spent you could have built Pornkings.com

I have and stopped.

So youre going to stoop to that level are you?

Well Roger, this will only show your true colors, go ahead , lets see insults. Try a little harder, knocking me for post count iis abit lame no?

Funny how simply for not holding my tongue now I gotta deal with you?

This is about jeff, either stay out of it or hold your tongue because i will always say what i want around here.

chronic avenger 08-03-2004 04:10 PM

50 :thumbsup

jimmyf 08-03-2004 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld
Hmmm. Good luck in finding people to promote you.

:thumbsup

Oracle Porn 08-03-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
http://perfectiongirls.com/show_bio.php?id=9

the owner doesn't want you using her in the tour

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Fenris 08-03-2004 04:16 PM

And if you hit the Join button at www.perfectiongirls.com you get send to a dialer.

Are you sending all foreign traffic to a dialer and are your affiliates are getting paid for that - well i guess no.

Observing 08-03-2004 04:17 PM

pfff whatever.

Mike AI 08-03-2004 04:18 PM

Roger, this is not about YOU or PornKings.

You have a job to do, you choose to take on a partner who has a lot of negative baggage. I am sure you knew this before you made a deal.

Knowing you as the tough businessman you are, I am sure you used this to your advantage and got a steal with perfections cash. I am sure you knew you would have to deal with this kind of heat.

There is no reason to insult others who you have no beef with. You made a investment in a crap property - you saw potential there and maybe it will pay off - but you should not attack people who have been burned in the past by your new partner.

Everything comes down to risk reward. You took a risk when partnering with a huge scammer. Time will tell if the reward is worth it.

BVF 08-03-2004 04:19 PM

damn I was at the amusement park and missed this one...Might as well get my shit near the top of page 2

cherrylula 08-03-2004 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSenator
The Internet is a weird place.


I hear BabeNet is making a come back

yeah right

doober 08-03-2004 04:24 PM

Now this is an interesting thread


:glugglug

charlieb 08-03-2004 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Ladies looking for action in FLA ? Hit me up for INFO
LOL

inthestars 08-03-2004 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
I think this is a good way to go about it. They came clean and ask to be forgiven. It's 100% better than going away and reemerging as some new thing, which is what everyone else does.

And for that reason, I think people should give them a shot. I'm gonna try the program.

Your new lesbo site looks good Lens..

Giorgio_Xo 08-03-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
Have you ever sent to Pornkings?

and why havn't you started your own program? with that many posts and time spent you could have built Pornkings.com

Where the hell are you going with this line of reasoning and what does it have anything to do with Perfection Cash stealing money?

Pornkings 08-03-2004 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I have and stopped.

So youre going to stoop to that level are you?

Well Roger, this will only show your true colors, go ahead , lets see insults. Try a little harder, knocking me for post count iis abit lame no?

Funny how simply for not holding my tongue now I gotta deal with you?

This is about jeff, either stay out of it or hold your tongue because i will always say what i want around here.

Thats fine with me.

What was your account and why did you stop sending to Pornkings? Please post your stats. I don't care if they sucked ass
Please post them if not I'm going to have to call bullshit and show your true colors

I tired of being politically correct. Your right I?m going to stoop to the same levels as the rest of you who only talk shit.
I?ve always been real and about business on this board I just realized its time to fight fire with fire.

Fuck with a bull and get the horns

I know way to much dirt on everyone believe that?????? If not I will find out

Fletch XXX 08-03-2004 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
Thats fine with me.

What was your account and why did you stop sending to Pornkings? Please post your stats. I don't care if they sucked ass
Please post them if not I'm going to have to call bullshit and show your true colors

I tired of being politically correct. Your right I?m going to stoop to the same levels as the rest of you who only talk shit.
I?ve always been real and about business on this board I just realized its time to fight fire with fire.

Fuck with a bull and get the horns

I know way to much dirt on everyone believe that?????? If not I will find out

I love the threats.

i Pushed your coke whore site, i stopped sending traffic for my own reasons.

I love the threats though. I really do. What is between Jeff and me is just that, please go count your money Mr Bg Stuff and leave this to us.

What exactly are you calling bullshit on and what do YOU have to do with anything I said?

Fuck with the bull? Stop beating your chest, you sound silly.

TheMob 08-03-2004 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vox
"There's an old saying in Tennessee ? I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee ? that says, fool me once, shame on ? shame on you. Fool me ? you can't get fooled again." ?George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh hehe, i can't believe he got through university.

coolandthegang 08-03-2004 04:48 PM

apology excepted...what ever!:feels-hot

Pornkings 08-03-2004 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI
Roger, this is not about YOU or PornKings.

You have a job to do, you choose to take on a partner who has a lot of negative baggage. I am sure you knew this before you made a deal.

Knowing you as the tough businessman you are, I am sure you used this to your advantage and got a steal with perfections cash. I am sure you knew you would have to deal with this kind of heat.

There is no reason to insult others who you have no beef with. You made a investment in a crap property - you saw potential there and maybe it will pay off - but you should not attack people who have been burned in the past by your new partner.

Everything comes down to risk reward. You took a risk when partnering with a huge scammer. Time will tell if the reward is worth it.


Jeff no longer runs or deals with the financials of Perfection cash.

I?m really not worried it already paid for itself come over anytime and I?ll show you how the Numbers tripled already. But aside from that. Jeff is a partner just on the Perfectioncash site but does not handle the financials at ALL.

And he has nothing to do with the sites in Pornkings!

You guys know that most of the webmasters don?t understand how to separate the two if you?re not in the know.

I?m just trying to make it clear to the learkers.


YOU WILL GET PAID By PERFECTION CASH
NOW under new management! BY Pornkings

EscortDate_Enoj 08-03-2004 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep
Just skip the first 10 - 20 responses folks. We're only here for sig placement :glugglug
So fucking annoying.

Do you guys really do so bad business that you have to spam (yes, SPAM) this board with your sig to earn some cents?

I'm not talking about regular posting with advertising in cig, I'm talking about posting bullshit-comments on the top of (highly read) threads.

C'mon guys, it's so low. SO LOW.

:2 cents:

fatal attraction 08-03-2004 04:56 PM

Jeff, please icq me. Thanks

Doctor Dre 08-03-2004 04:57 PM

Lots of words ... like thoses bounced checks and promeses :)

Your rep CAN be rebuilt ... but words aiin't gonna cut it out

Pornkings 08-03-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
I love the threats.

i Pushed your coke whore site, i stopped sending traffic for my own reasons.

I love the threats though. I really do. What is between Jeff and me is just that, please go count your money Mr Bg Stuff and leave this to us.

What exactly are you calling bullshit on and what do YOU have to do with anything I said?

Fuck with the bull? Stop beating your chest, you sound silly.

Beating my chest LMAO lets go back to all our posts in the past before this one and see who is always beating his chest.:1orglaugh

I don't belive you sent to us. you make it sound like you sent alot and you stopped cause you didn't convert or something.

what was the acount you used for Perfectioncash if you say you didn't get paid or you got shaved lets resolve it now.

how many sales did you have? we will double it.
If you can show me proof of any other revshare program that paid you more because they reacurred longer then 2 months I will match your best sponsor.
Jeff no longer runs the show Pornkings does.

So now what? You going to keep beating your chest?

Pornkings 08-03-2004 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Lots of words ... like thoses bounced checks and promeses :)

Your rep CAN be rebuilt ... but words aiin't gonna cut it out

I totally agree words don't mean shit:thumbsup

But its under new management now and it was rebuilt


Everyone will get paid NOW

the sites are doing amazing I bet you won't hear anymore complaints

Nysus 08-03-2004 05:04 PM

Did you enlighten everyone already about the takeover + specific dealings of what previous ownership did and what you did to clear it up / rectify the situation? I really have no idea, but it'd help to know for potential affiliates. :)

Matt

PerfectionGirls 08-03-2004 05:10 PM

This thread is a good read.. even for me.

Its clear that me and Fletch arnt going to be buddy. It's cool! No love lost. What is awesome though is that he is still getting rebills off our program and its been over a year since he sent traffic. I'm glad he is and very glad he let everyone else know. Wow, over a year and the perfection girls sites are still rebilling for ya.

Quote:

I stopped pushing them months back, and ya know what, i STILL HAVE REBILLS coming in...
Say a ton for our retention. Thanks Fletch!

As for MikeAI.... truly dont get it. I really dont, never met him, never talked to him other then a couple short icq messages a year or so back. Used to be an affilaite back in March of 2003. Converted great and still has some rebills coming in for over a year ago. If I knew what i did to you Mike.. I would happy say I am sorry, to your face and clear the air. I really would.

Rogers post above is correct. I am out of the finanical game when it comes to Perfection Cash. Why, because I sucked at it. I was overwhelmed, on a short budget, trying to make big things happen and it caught up with me. I didnt enter the indusrty in 1996 when it was a honey pot. We got in in 2002 when you had/have to bust your ass for every sign up. It was hard... but we did manage to build a name for ourselfs for awhile before things caved in. Thats no excuse for some of the fuck ups... I know this. Not here to make excuses because there arnt any. We did our best and it wasnt enough. Now, we faced the music, paid all our debts and put it back together. We came out and apologized for our actions and mistakes and we are moving on.

Not making one excuse for what happened. We fucked up and paid the price. It was 8 months ago that all this hit the fan. Should it be forgotten? Hell know.. I am reminded of it everyday, but when its all said and done, doing the right thing and making everyone whole is all I can do.

Moving forward... learning from my experiences and building from there. Never to old to learn.

See sig :)

Oracle Porn 08-03-2004 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
http://perfectiongirls.com/show_bio.php?id=9

the owner doesn't want you using her in the tour

AM I FUCKING INVISIBLE?!!?!?!?!?!?!

Pornkings 08-03-2004 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nysus
Did you enlighten everyone already about the takeover + specific dealings of what previous ownership did and what you did to clear it up / rectify the situation? I really have no idea, but it'd help to know for potential affiliates. :)

Matt

Yes we have many times without going into detail.

I have also posted my 800# for those who had concerns etc.

Guess what not one call?

the sites are doing amazing and there are many webmasters pushing them and getting paid big bucks.

Plus we have much more coming soon:winkwink:

PerfectionGirls 08-03-2004 05:16 PM

Quote:

AM I FUCKING INVISIBLE?!!?!?!?!?!?!
Yes, sorry, you are. You have been on my ignore for months and months.

They can pop me an email if they want the traffic removed.


[email protected]

crockett 08-03-2004 05:16 PM

damn they admitted they did something wrong with out really admitting anything.. :1orglaugh did a lawyer write that apology


well lets just hope all the models get paid and anyone else that was owed money.

Pornkings 08-03-2004 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
AM I FUCKING INVISIBLE?!!?!?!?!?!?!
I am looking into it. and will have an answer ASAP

speakthetruth 08-03-2004 05:23 PM

Douche Bag. Throw some pussy and booze, and webmasters may be more forgiving. You should find another line of work, you will always be a joke in this industry. Now go fuck yourself.


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