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Old 08-01-2004, 08:31 AM   #1
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:stop Hey Quick Question! Am I ripping people off or Are people ripping me off?

Ok IM doing galleries at $10.00 each right? I think 20 to 30 dollars for a gallery is a rip off imo I DONT MIND if somone wants to pay that but Why ? Why would anyone want to pay that much for a damn gallery?

Look at my samples for $10.00 below and can you give me your honest thoughts, If I am charging to much or should I just give up and stop doing galleries?
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ps I do have a few openings if anyone is interested in some galleries this week.. My kids are going to be gone for a week to IN.

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Old 08-01-2004, 08:35 AM   #2
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looks good to me, and very good price
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Old 08-01-2004, 08:37 AM   #3
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looks good to me, and very good price
Thanks I just wanted to make sure on these!!! I am not going to be doing galleries for people in 30 days! All my paysites will be launched and will not have any time... So fig I would try and get some galleries done for people before I totaly stop. *shrugs*

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Old 08-01-2004, 08:41 AM   #4
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I think that they're worth $10

They're not at $20 or $30 levels though
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Your galleries look pretty good for $10.

There are a lot of shitty designers charging too much for a gallery.

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well how long does it take for you to do a gallery template?
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They look good man, but 10$ is a bit too low imo. How long does 1 gallery take you honestly? I don't think 15 or 20 bucks would be a ridiculous thing to ask
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I think 12 - 13 $ is about spot on. $10 is a touch low. Not more than $15 though.
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well how long does it take for you to do a gallery template?
Depending on the sponsors site anywhere from 15 to 30 mins

I am also doing a special if you order 20 or more galleries they are only $5.00 each but That is one template per 5 galleries... So say you want 5 galleries for one sponsor pay site like knockboots.com I would build you one template and use that template for the next 4.. Of course I would change a few things like bg color etc...

I resize all images, water mark if need be For movie galleries I chop them up to the min tgp standards and get screen grabs..


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Ps I do make a promise if you don't make your money back on the designs I do for you I will redo them UNTIL you do im 100% sure you will make your money back and then sum... Only had maybe 5 to 8 complaints in the 3 years Ive done this and always try to make things right...

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They look good man, but 10$ is a bit too low imo. How long does 1 gallery take you honestly? I don't think 15 or 20 bucks would be a ridiculous thing to ask
Yea I guess if you soley do galleries for you money I guess I can understand.. This is only play money for me now, model fee's etc... I can take it or leave it! I got some free time comming up so fig I would give it a try again..


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Pretty nice work, Tom and great price
Thanks Hon, Can't compare to your work though... Ya totaly hot..

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Yea I guess if you soley do galleries for you money I guess I can understand.. This is only play money for me now, model fee's etc... I can take it or leave it! I got some free time comming up so fig I would give it a try again..


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doesn't matter whether you charge $5 or $30...with that sort of attitude, why would I pay for something that you don't give a a shit about doing (ro doing right?) If I know you're only doing it for fuckaround money, why should I trust they will be quality galleries?
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doesn't matter whether you charge $5 or $30...with that sort of attitude, why would I pay for something that you don't give a a shit about doing (ro doing right?) If I know you're only doing it for fuckaround money, why should I trust they will be quality galleries?
Well, he did provide examples and said he'd tweak them if they didn't make your money back. His services obviously aren't right for you.
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Tom you know I love you...but come on man...to say $20-$30 is too much for a gallery?

It takes one sale to recoup the cost...and whether people believe it or not sometimes I actually spend too much time on one single gallery...I've spent up to 2hours tweaking things just to make sure it's right and if I'm charging $30 for it. I'm still not making enough IMO...but that's what I charged.

Sponsor hosted galleries are a different game..usually they wanna buy a bunch and get them done as quickly as possible.

But when it comes to individual orders...if you can't afford $30 for a gallery that you want to make you $100's or $1,000's then by all means go somewhere else.
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They look good man, but 10$ is a bit too low imo. How long does 1 gallery take you honestly? I don't think 15 or 20 bucks would be a ridiculous thing to ask
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Not bad looking galleries.. I think you are selling yourself a bit short though.
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doesn't matter whether you charge $5 or $30...with that sort of attitude, why would I pay for something that you don't give a a shit about doing (ro doing right?) If I know you're only doing it for fuckaround money, why should I trust they will be quality galleries?
Um Did somone not get laid last night? What a complete utter jerk off!! ANYONE that is anyone that knows me knows no matter how I feel about a sponsor I will always do my best!! WHY is it that in every thread there is always a jerk off???



Ps thanks everyone else

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Tom...I'll hit you up for sure this week. We need a ton of galleries for our program and I'm too far behind on other things to put them together myself.

To answer your question though, I think you're undercutting yourself at $10. Someone mentioned $12-13...that might be spot on.
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Tom you know I love you...but come on man...to say $20-$30 is too much for a gallery?

It takes one sale to recoup the cost...and whether people believe it or not sometimes I actually spend too much time on one single gallery...I've spent up to 2hours tweaking things just to make sure it's right and if I'm charging $30 for it. I'm still not making enough IMO...but that's what I charged.

Sponsor hosted galleries are a different game..usually they wanna buy a bunch and get them done as quickly as possible.

But when it comes to individual orders...if you can't afford $30 for a gallery that you want to make you $100's or $1,000's then by all means go somewhere else.

I knew I was going to get some flack for them words!! Supprised fletch aint in here hehe It was just my thoughts not trtying to degrade the people that do this for a living... I agree if you are doing this for a living then why not get the most out of it! There are some as yourself and fletch and digifan that are really good just imo them prices are a bit too high!! BUT....again That is just me dude.. sry if I steped on ya bro

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Tom...I'll hit you up for sure this week. We need a ton of galleries for our program and I'm too far behind on other things to put them together myself.

To answer your question though, I think you're undercutting yourself at $10. Someone mentioned $12-13...that might be spot on.
Not a problem mate... $10.00 is fine for me like I said its only for model fee's server bills fun money after all bills are paid lol Not meaining I will do a shit job as one pointed out.. *shrugs*

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I knew I was going to get some flack for them words!! Supprised fletch aint in here hehe
why you even gotta mention me?

just do what you do and make your rent, i really dont care.

I will never understand why a person with a paysite will need to do galleries for $5 each, but thats just me, carry on, no need to even mention me.
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I think that you charge a fair price for a very good product and if you were to charge $15 I think people would actually be more at ease about it. Good luck and enjoy the rest from the kids...
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$10 for gallerys like that is a good price.......
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why you even gotta mention me?

just do what you do and make your rent, i really dont care.

I will never understand why a person with a paysite will need to do galleries for $5 each, but thats just me, carry on, no need to even mention me.
Wow didn't mean to hit a nerve dude!! I always respected you and shit! Again sry bro...


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I knew I was going to get some flack for them words!! Supprised fletch aint in here hehe It was just my thoughts not trtying to degrade the people that do this for a living... I agree if you are doing this for a living then why not get the most out of it! There are some as yourself and fletch and digifan that are really good just imo them prices are a bit too high!! BUT....again That is just me dude.. sry if I steped on ya bro

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Tom reread my statement...you're not catching flack...just letting you know how it is.

You say you're not trying to degrade people who do this for a living..but yet you continue to say the prices are too high and then undercut for those who do it for a living for "play money."
Which is fine this is a free enterprise system not questioning that...and right now I'm booked solid..but there are those out there who do have to pay rent...who do have to feed their kids..clothe them...so consider the ripple effect.
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Tom reread my statement...you're not catching flack...just letting you know how it is.

You say you're not trying to degrade people who do this for a living..but yet you continue to say the prices are too high and then undercut for those who do it for a living for "play money."
Which is fine this is a free enterprise system not questioning that...and right now I'm booked solid..but there are those out there who do have to pay rent...who do have to feed their kids..clothe them...so consider the ripple effect.
DUDE hit me up on icq please
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DUDE hit me up on icq please
If it's thread related...LOL naw...I'm here...not fighting with you...you know I've got respect for you and your work ethic and have used you for Diabolical Galleries in the past....you're offering a great deal...but do just that... offer a great deal no need to take subtle or not so subtle shots at other designers it's bad form.

Anyone who is doing this as a job has to take exception to someone coming in and saying things like...

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A "rip off?"

Once again..this is a free market and all is fair in love and war and adult internet biz. ;)
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If it's thread related...LOL naw...I'm here...not fighting with you...you know I've got respect for you and your work ethic and have used you for Diabolical Galleries in the past....you're offering a great deal...but do just that... offer a great deal no need to take subtle or not so subtle shots at other designers it's bad form.

Anyone who is doing this as a job has to take exception to someone coming in and saying things like...



A "rip off?"

Once again..this is a free market and all is fair in love and war and adult internet biz. ;)
AWE I c your point, on the RIP off part bad grammar etc...

Ps it wasn't thread related wanted to show you something I've been working on and on this pc can't find ya in icq


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OM FUCKING GOD! that was fuckin hilarious hahahahaha!
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AWE I c your point, on the RIP off part bad grammar etc...

Ps it wasn't thread related wanted to show you something I've been working on and on this pc can't find ya in icq


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Troll haha From somone as yourself who I know personaly That means alot comming from you.
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