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Old 07-30-2004, 12:13 PM   #1
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Fox news: some idiot watching DVD in his car

a fucking DVD movie... hit and killed someone, and is being charged with murder - not vehicular manslaughter, or straight manslaughter, but murder.

What a fucking idiot!

I wonder what he was watching? "Fast and the Furious"?
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:14 PM   #2
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great, 1 person fucks up and now i'm sure they will push to ban them all.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:15 PM   #3
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a fucking DVD movie... hit and killed someone, and is being charged with murder - not vehicular manslaughter, or straight manslaughter, but murder.

What a fucking idiot!

I wonder what he was watching? "Fast and the Furious"?
I don't know why they go for murder...they have that one Law and Order show where they follow a real case and these 2 guys were racing down Imperial Hwy in San Diego with their lights off at night and hit and killed some teenager...they were charged with murder but of course were convicted of vehicular manslaughter.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:15 PM   #4
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great, 1 person fucks up and now i'm sure they will push to ban them all.
thats what i thought when i read this
it had to happen sooner or later
i dont know how it can constitute murder - doesnt murder have to have motive?
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:16 PM   #5
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they need to ban dvd/video monitors anywhere past the backs of the front seats....i am 100% agreement with that
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:16 PM   #6
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But...but, all those rap dudes on mtv say its pimp to have a dvd player in your car.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:17 PM   #7
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Screens are supposed to be behind the drivers seat or able to be shut off while driving.

California vehicle code anyways.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:18 PM   #8
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thats what i thought when i read this
it had to happen sooner or later
i dont know how it can constitute murder - doesnt murder have to have motive?
They are probably charging murder to let it get reduced to vehicular manslaughter, rather than having it reduced to something less. Plus, murder gets more headlines.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:18 PM   #9
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a fucking DVD movie... hit and killed someone, and is being charged with murder - not vehicular manslaughter, or straight manslaughter, but murder.

What a fucking idiot!

I wonder what he was watching? "Fast and the Furious"?
Damn, thats stupid.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:20 PM   #10
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what a dumbshit!

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a fucking DVD movie... hit and killed someone, and is being charged with murder - not vehicular manslaughter, or straight manslaughter, but murder.

What a fucking idiot!

I wonder what he was watching? "Fast and the Furious"?
im watching fast and furious 2 right now. Only cuz my car is the main character of the movie!!
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:21 PM   #11
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thats what i thought when i read this
it had to happen sooner or later
i dont know how it can constitute murder - doesnt murder have to have motive?

--no. Motive is not a requirement to find anyone guilty of any crime, including murder. Lawyers present motive because it is natural for juries to question "why would he do that?" and could subsequentlt question the person's guilt--thus they tell you why to stop a juror from feeling empathetic toward the defendant.

Trials are negotiations....the full muder charge is a scare tactic to get the defense to plea to a lesser, but serious charge.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:23 PM   #12
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they need to ban dvd/video monitors anywhere past the backs of the front seats....i am 100% agreement with that
I agree or at the very least make it so that the dvd/video monitor on the front dash automatically shut off when driving.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:23 PM   #13
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a fucking DVD movie... hit and killed someone, and is being charged with murder - not vehicular manslaughter, or straight manslaughter, but murder.

What a fucking idiot!

I wonder what he was watching? "Fast and the Furious"?
Was waiting for this to happen. Surprised it took so long.

Stupid people. Stop watching TV. Get off your cell phones.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:26 PM   #14
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what a fucking idiot.
some people are just plain retarded....
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:29 PM   #15
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thats what i thought when i read this
it had to happen sooner or later
i dont know how it can constitute murder - doesnt murder have to have motive?
Murder doesn't have to have motive but it does have to have intent. Soooo for it to be manslaughter, you basically have to have someone who kills someone without meaning to, and without the knowledge that what they were doing would cause death.

Murder has to have a person knowing that their actions could result in death, but continues on.

I would think getting into a vehicle weighing over 1000 pounds, in a place where there are pedestrians and other vehicles, and making the choice to watch a DVD instead of the road would meet the requirements for murder....
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:29 PM   #16
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--no. Motive is not a requirement to find anyone guilty of any crime, including murder. Lawyers present motive because it is natural for juries to question "why would he do that?" and could subsequentlt question the person's guilt--thus they tell you why to stop a juror from feeling empathetic toward the defendant.

Trials are negotiations....the full muder charge is a scare tactic to get the defense to plea to a lesser, but serious charge.
ah cheers
i always thought iut was manslughter unless there was plausible motive
i should watch more TV
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:29 PM   #17
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thats what i thought when i read this
it had to happen sooner or later
i dont know how it can constitute murder - doesnt murder have to have motive?
no, there does not have to be motive . . . . that is on TV only, it is sufficient if the acts done apparently endanger. life, and eventually fatal . . . In other words, if you do something that is dangerous, and puts others at risk, and it kills someone, you can be charged with murder.

There are different degrees of murder, and this will probably be second degree, or even a lesser included of manslaughter
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:31 PM   #18
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they need to ban dvd/video monitors anywhere past the backs of the front seats....i am 100% agreement with that
Same here, it makes no sense anywhere else in a car. if your driving fucking drive, dont talk on the phone, and dont watch fucking TV. morons.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:31 PM   #19
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they need to ban dvd/video monitors anywhere past the backs of the front seats....i am 100% agreement with that
I agree too, some people can't even make a phone call and drive at the same time. Watching a movie is just stupid and dangerous.
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:32 PM   #20
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Do we really need to be able to watch a DVD while driving?
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:33 PM   #21
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I wonder what he was watching? "Fast and the Furious"?
or maybe "Changing Lanes".

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He deserve it ... but lots of ppl do that in the traffic nowdays
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Old 07-30-2004, 12:39 PM   #23
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i always thought iut was manslughter unless there was plausible motive
i should watch more TV

well, manslaughter is murder:

here's the difference: You plan on killing someone (let's say you're OJ)---you get the mask and the gloves and sneak over an kill: premeditated = muder one

You're a bank robber, you have a gun. You don't want to kill anyone but you do. Death during the comission of a crime = categorized differently, but you'll still get the penalty (-death) of murder one.

You get in a bar fight. (not self defense scenario) the guy hits his head or something and dies---manslaughter. Unintentional death due to negligence or other tort (crime involving injury)
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well, manslaughter is murder:

here's the difference: You plan on killing someone (let's say you're OJ)---you get the mask and the gloves and sneak over an kill: premeditated = muder one

not sure if you heard or not, but he was found not guilty
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:27 PM   #25
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not sure if you heard or not, but he was found not guilty

yes, because there are still stupid people in this world, unfortunately...


---just using that fuck as a "pre-planned" scenario.


and he's only 1/2 not guilty.
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Old 07-30-2004, 01:34 PM   #26
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They are probably charging murder to let it get reduced to vehicular manslaughter, rather than having it reduced to something less. Plus, murder gets more headlines.
this is the logical explanation Jim.

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Here in Sao Paulo you can have them in your car, but you can't watch! A stupid law...
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