Need Beta Testers! We pay up to 75 cents - GoFuckYourself.com

bode · 04-23-2001, 08:27 PM

Everyone,

We have our new Active X dialers ready for beta. I want to work with a few webmasters on a beta test.

Rates are the following.

US 75 cents
UK 75 cents
JP 40 cents
DE 45 cents
SWI 40 cents
AUS 37 cents

18 Premium Countries.
80 Supported Countries.

Send me an email to be a part of the beta test. Give us feedback on our new dialer. This dialer does not use DK, GIB, or Niteline.
http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/cpd/

[email protected]

Thanks,

Bode

Pete Dogg · 04-23-2001, 08:44 PM

So how come the per minute charge in canada is so low?

bode · 04-23-2001, 08:48 PM

We haven't established a really good termination point in Canada yet.

Hopefully, it will get better.

As the program gets more people using it the rates will get even higher.

Bode

Pete Dogg · 04-23-2001, 08:58 PM

How much does it cost the surfer to dial?

Is it cheaper for Canadians?

I might be willing to beta test.
What's involved?
Hit me up on ICQ: 670466

boneprone · 04-23-2001, 10:58 PM

With a payout this high it has to be a 900 numner dialer isnt it? If not where is the USA dial in?

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The Hun · 04-24-2001, 02:58 PM

And again, nobody seems really interested in the rate the end consumer has to pay. How much does this one charge? 4 bucks a minute? 5? 7? Kind of sad really...

Rip · 04-24-2001, 03:03 PM

I you are interested there was a company I talked to a week ago, which charges the surfer only a buck a minute, and still gives the webmaster 35 cents

Tanker · 04-24-2001, 03:10 PM

Hun

I am right there with you

I tried out the dialers not only is it sad they charge the surfer 7 dollars or even 3 dollars but off of a 3 dollar a minute call the webmaster only makes 35 cents that sucks

Tanker

Lensman · 04-24-2001, 03:15 PM

Someone's getting screwed when the webmaster only gets $10 for a sale and the surfer gets charged $100.

Is the FTC OK with dialers now?

[This message has been edited by Lensman (edited 04-24-2001).]

boneprone · 04-24-2001, 03:44 PM

After hearing about the Communications Meeting a few weeks ago, from what I understand these smarter dialer compnaies like GIB are working under consulation from the FCC, FTC.

It looks like the heat is coming from those dialers that dial into Vanatau or other international countries to rack up a phone rates.. So to fix this and make the feds happy, the dialers are evolving into 900 number dialing.. Not sure how this helps the end consumer, but I can see how keeping this all in country and taxable makes the fed happy.

boneprone · 04-24-2001, 03:45 PM

Give the fed a piece of the pie and they are happy I guess!

Jer · 04-24-2001, 04:23 PM

I like my visitors, don't want to fuck them with a 3 or 4 digit phone bill. I can pop a console sometimes, but they close and no charges. Never used a dialer, my ethical sense doesn't let me.
I have the first sex toplist from Brazil, and another guy who copied my toplist name is promoting a dialer there. I think I'll post a message at my toplist to let my visitors know and never download a .exe file from sex sites.

MrBrian · 04-24-2001, 05:39 PM

i agree with anti-dialer guys

thumbs down to sextracker whos suppose to be a leader...

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bode · 04-24-2001, 07:07 PM

In response.

Credit Card sponsors are not a valid method of billing for many countries around the world. The people in these countries do not own credit cards.

Over 50% of the surfers on the Adult web are now from a non US origin. This percentage is increasing. However, only 10-15% of credit card signups are from non US origin. Therefore, if you convert 1/100 on US traffic, you convert 1/900 on non US traffic.

We've provided 2 options. We've provided a US option which utilizes 900 billing. It is identical in structure to phone sex lines. We have full disclosure of terms and costs both on our website and on the actual dialer.

For international customers we make international phone calls. We have full disclosure on the dialer for charges in each country. The only way for international surfers to access premium content areas in many cases is via the use of a dialer. They can't get a credit card even if they would like to.

We provide the webmaster with 2 options. They can send traffic from both the US and non US. Or just from outside of the US. Therefore, if your quality of traffic is high, you can continue to send your traffic to US traffic to credit card sponsors.

Our goal is to change how the dialer industry works. We want to create technological solutions to make phone billing a viable option for all webmasters.

A big reason for why conversions are decreasing is the increase in international surfers. Our US conversions have barely changed. However, 1 year ago the percentage of US to Foreign was about 80% to 20%. Now the percentage is more like 50% to 50%. In 2 years the international countries will make up over 75% of the surfers on our sites. It is a natural evolution.

Bode
[email protected]
Shawn Boday

tha_timinator · 04-24-2001, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun:
And again, nobody seems really interested in the rate the end consumer has to pay. How much does this one charge? 4 bucks a minute? 5? 7? Kind of sad really...

I might be mistaken but all the guys who posted in this thread before you were wondering what the end user pays with this dialer, so everybody indeed _is_ interested... how come your post then?

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SNOW · 04-24-2001, 10:38 PM

EVERYONE in there mother is a dialer company now its fucken stupid already... ALL the people who were against them are now coming out with there own..

DONT YOU GET IT.There are so many dialer companies now that the webmasters hop hopp hopp all day jumping around....i know about 10 guys who fell on there ass and struggled to make 2000 min a day....

Its getting rough out there,not only with dialers but with EVERYTHING

The Hun · 05-05-2001, 02:10 AM

Bode, nice reply, but it didn't answer the question... What are the rates the end consumer has to pay? I odn't think someone with their right mind will knowingly use the 3-7 USD/min dialers to view porn...

One buck with a 35 cent payout is getting closer to being fair. But why on earth terminate a US customer outside of the US?

04-23-2001, 08:27 PM	#1
bode Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 31	Need Beta Testers! We pay up to 75 cents Everyone, We have our new Active X dialers ready for beta. I want to work with a few webmasters on a beta test. Rates are the following. US 75 cents UK 75 cents JP 40 cents DE 45 cents SWI 40 cents AUS 37 cents 18 Premium Countries. 80 Supported Countries. Send me an email to be a part of the beta test. Give us feedback on our new dialer. This dialer does not use DK, GIB, or Niteline. http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/cpd/ [email protected] Thanks, Bode

04-23-2001, 08:44 PM	#2
Pete Dogg Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 204	So how come the per minute charge in canada is so low?

04-23-2001, 08:48 PM	#3
bode Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 31	We haven't established a really good termination point in Canada yet. Hopefully, it will get better. As the program gets more people using it the rates will get even higher. Bode

04-23-2001, 08:58 PM	#4
Pete Dogg Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 204	How much does it cost the surfer to dial? Is it cheaper for Canadians? I might be willing to beta test. What's involved? Hit me up on ICQ: 670466

04-23-2001, 10:58 PM	#5
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	With a payout this high it has to be a 900 numner dialer isnt it? If not where is the USA dial in? ------------------ Webmaster/Owner www.boneprone.com icq: 66883099

04-24-2001, 02:58 PM	#6
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	And again, nobody seems really interested in the rate the end consumer has to pay. How much does this one charge? 4 bucks a minute? 5? 7? Kind of sad really...

04-24-2001, 03:03 PM	#7
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	I you are interested there was a company I talked to a week ago, which charges the surfer only a buck a minute, and still gives the webmaster 35 cents

04-24-2001, 03:10 PM	#8
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	Hun I am right there with you I tried out the dialers not only is it sad they charge the surfer 7 dollars or even 3 dollars but off of a 3 dollar a minute call the webmaster only makes 35 cents that sucks Tanker

04-24-2001, 03:15 PM	#9
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Someone's getting screwed when the webmaster only gets $10 for a sale and the surfer gets charged $100. Is the FTC OK with dialers now? [This message has been edited by Lensman (edited 04-24-2001).]

04-24-2001, 03:44 PM	#10
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	After hearing about the Communications Meeting a few weeks ago, from what I understand these smarter dialer compnaies like GIB are working under consulation from the FCC, FTC. It looks like the heat is coming from those dialers that dial into Vanatau or other international countries to rack up a phone rates.. So to fix this and make the feds happy, the dialers are evolving into 900 number dialing.. Not sure how this helps the end consumer, but I can see how keeping this all in country and taxable makes the fed happy.

04-24-2001, 03:45 PM	#11
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Give the fed a piece of the pie and they are happy I guess!

04-24-2001, 04:23 PM	#12
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	I like my visitors, don't want to fuck them with a 3 or 4 digit phone bill. I can pop a console sometimes, but they close and no charges. Never used a dialer, my ethical sense doesn't let me. I have the first sex toplist from Brazil, and another guy who copied my toplist name is promoting a dialer there. I think I'll post a message at my toplist to let my visitors know and never download a .exe file from sex sites.

04-24-2001, 05:39 PM	#13
MrBrian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,215	i agree with anti-dialer guys thumbs down to sextracker whos suppose to be a leader... ------------------ http://www.cdgirls.com/webmasters Free Content, Free CDs, Free Lapdances Free FTP Hosting at http://www.tgpfreespace.com

04-24-2001, 07:07 PM	#14
bode Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 31	In response. Credit Card sponsors are not a valid method of billing for many countries around the world. The people in these countries do not own credit cards. Over 50% of the surfers on the Adult web are now from a non US origin. This percentage is increasing. However, only 10-15% of credit card signups are from non US origin. Therefore, if you convert 1/100 on US traffic, you convert 1/900 on non US traffic. We've provided 2 options. We've provided a US option which utilizes 900 billing. It is identical in structure to phone sex lines. We have full disclosure of terms and costs both on our website and on the actual dialer. For international customers we make international phone calls. We have full disclosure on the dialer for charges in each country. The only way for international surfers to access premium content areas in many cases is via the use of a dialer. They can't get a credit card even if they would like to. We provide the webmaster with 2 options. They can send traffic from both the US and non US. Or just from outside of the US. Therefore, if your quality of traffic is high, you can continue to send your traffic to US traffic to credit card sponsors. Our goal is to change how the dialer industry works. We want to create technological solutions to make phone billing a viable option for all webmasters. A big reason for why conversions are decreasing is the increase in international surfers. Our US conversions have barely changed. However, 1 year ago the percentage of US to Foreign was about 80% to 20%. Now the percentage is more like 50% to 50%. In 2 years the international countries will make up over 75% of the surfers on our sites. It is a natural evolution. Bode [email protected] Shawn Boday

04-24-2001, 10:38 PM	#16
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	EVERYONE in there mother is a dialer company now its fucken stupid already... ALL the people who were against them are now coming out with there own.. DONT YOU GET IT.There are so many dialer companies now that the webmasters hop hopp hopp all day jumping around....i know about 10 guys who fell on there ass and struggled to make 2000 min a day.... Its getting rough out there,not only with dialers but with EVERYTHING

05-05-2001, 02:10 AM	#17
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Bode, nice reply, but it didn't answer the question... What are the rates the end consumer has to pay? I odn't think someone with their right mind will knowingly use the 3-7 USD/min dialers to view porn... One buck with a 35 cent payout is getting closer to being fair. But why on earth terminate a US customer outside of the US?