ok but that still doesnt prove your point..First off roy jones vs say barrerra would still be a 5 round fight if not more..You are talking about big guys and there power..Of course if a little guy gets hit with a perfect punch or 2 they will be knocked out..But professional fighters compared to regular everyday people fighting is way different..Big guys normally can not get a clean blow on little guys..where as smaller guys can get 6 or 7 in that are just as affective as 1...It all depends on how your jaw is in terms of taking punches..also your in the gracie camp man..gracie wasnt big at all..i mean if ua re in the gracie camp and things im suprised they would say size matters...In boxing it doesnt..nice example is roy jones vs ruiz and roy one...He could of knocked him out if the fight kept going on more then 12 rounds..who knows..But as for UFC style of fighting and shit and wrestling of course weight more then size matters because your mainly fighting on the ground a ton and if a huge guy is on top of you theres no way out

btw i might look into it...I am that type of person..Love confrontation :)

Royce won because nobody else knew how to fight on the ground. He couldn't beat those giants today, EVERY fighter is a grappler now.

There was a HUGE skills disparity between Ruiz and Jones, bigger than the size difference. A god-like 200 lb RJ is going to beat a plodding hugger like Ruiz even with the 20 lb difference. If they didn't let him jab and hold, Ruiz would never win a fight.

Thats true...i saw that fight between tito ortiz and shamrock and shamrock kept his old fighting style...Well he mainly fought standing up which in my opinion was not a good idea...tito ortiz has lost his last 2 or so since..

yeah Tito was afraid to shoot against Liddell and tried to stand and punch with him. Big mistake.

exactly..i mean i was so damn suprised tito stood up against him..It was mainly an ego thing/trying to impress the fans...Wrong move and he lost...peoples egos always kill em

I think he was just afraid of a knee in the face. Strikers are getting better and better at not being taken down to the ground, they're learning to sprawl, how to get the underhook etc and so on. It might have been a pride thing, can't be sure, definitely whatever Tito was thinking was WRONG lol

I'd still like to know where you train, there are DAMN FEW black belts in BJJ. Maybe I know you.

Not true, you can make throws that brake arms in Judo, actually brazilian Jujitsu is more related to Judo than real japanese jujitsu.

The guy who brought it to Brazil and tought it to the Gracies was a student of Kano, the man who established Kodokan Judo, so what he tought to Carlos Gracie was actually Judo (still considered Jujitsu at the time)

Judo can be very effective, specially when you get to higher levels and get a grasp of your weight center, I can for example stand my ground against a guy that is 40 kg. heavier than me, of course it is true though that fighting a guy that is bigger and has the same skill level is not a fair fight :glugglug

I was being facetious ;) Judo is a good art, but the fact that it emphasizes a pin rather than a submission is a serious handicap if you have to use it to protect yourself against a bigger guy. Best thing to do is learn some Judo takedowns and then add some BJJ submissions so you have a more complete package.

I have yet to see anyone on this board take this to the matt.

Anyone care to in Florida?

I don't fly, but I'll roll with anyone in LA as long as it's in a spirit of goodwill. I don't consider myself good enough yet to try to be a Gracie Family representative in a public fight lol

I'll leave that to the Gracies themselves ;)

I don't doubt it. I never reached that point myself but I wasn't very focused on it and didn't practice hard like some. I remember a little guy that was very fast and serious about Judo and he kicked everyone's ass with his speed and technique.

yes, just 10 days ago and sadly with a former friend. Even tho I "won" the fight, I feel it like a big loss :(

No fighting, just :BangBang:

yes many, most in my younger days

I honestly think someone should do a GFY Boxing match or matches! People who do not like others in this industry take it out with gloves in florida for 2 minute rounds...If no ones knocked out after 5th round then its a draw but at least its fuckin great entertainment and it squashes beef :)

P.S. If you guys are scared to get hit or scared to get your face scarred or whatever the case is then go out and buy those big ass boxing gloves..Oversized gloves that dont hurt as bad...Or we can just get some of those sumo wrestling suits and go at it.

That is a good idea. We can even do mud wrestling :)

I agree with you on this one. I my self train in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and just got my blue belt:) You do have a advantage with size. I am 275 and when i fight a brown belt id i cant get past there guard or submit them i do wear them down with my weight. But i have a black belt guy i go rounds with who is 160 pound guy and he submits me all the time. It all depends on a persons skills but size and weight does have its advantages.:thumbsup

Fighting is for suckas
and drunk people like me half the time
Im one of those kind that got beat up in high school all the time...then went and trained in a number of things
Heres my advice to the tough guys
1. When fighting outta high-school and on the street and in bars...expect to get arrested and charged, so make sure the opponent REALLY REALLY needs those scratches and possible shiner (thats about the damage most people inflict on a regular basis) for the two years you get on your third assualt you can be rest assured most people will call you a stand up guy. yeah...right.
2. People can and will kill each other in fights, happens all the time
3. If your gonna fight, for God's sakes shut your mouth and fight
4.Fight like the guy is trying to kill you.
5.dont start fights when you are alone...last thing you need is some BJJ guy pulling your arms and legs off in an alley and choking you out so no one can hear you scream in pain...and ...for you BJJ guys...dont think that everyone is gonna let it be one on one...street fighting is nasty...BJJ guys trying to do the one on one thing usually get all there friends dummied while thier busy conquesting...and then wake up bruised.
6. Never drop your weopon...whether it be hockey stick, keys , whatever...fuck that person up and fast.
7. Fuck honor.

So you see ...fighting is not very worthwhile unless it is for sport...then it can be fun...

One of the first things my old Sensei said was ( no, i am not grasshopper...) was when faced in a fight ...run...fight only if there IS NO OTHER OPTION...very wise words

Martial arts are a nice sport, I used to practice Brazilian jujitsu, I quit because lack of time. Now I want to try aikido, seems to be very good.

fuck usin ya fists nigga, just clap da gats and POP nigga be dead

Yes i have been in several, mostly before jr. high but i have also been in quite a few after, most of which stemmed from something going on with my best friend who loves to fight, but loves to fight multiple people most of all because he is a bad ass he always wants to run up on a group of guys and just talk shit when its just me and him but we have done pretty good so far:winkwink: my friend is a cage fighter,mma,nhb whatever you call it and he has a website that have clips of some of his fights
http://www.ultimatedefense.com/rob.htm check it out its pretty cool :thumbsup

only twice

1st time, i was 14.....it was stupid....i punched her, pushed her down, done deal. sucky, really.

2nd time: my live-in boyfriends sister called the house one day, made a smart ass comment to me, and i hung up on her. so, she dragged her fat ass & her 80 lb crackwhore of a friend over, broke in my house, i ran out the side door (i knew she always carried a gun, didnt wanna get fuckin shot)....

....then they skinny one came after me, grabbed me by my shirt, i turned around and grabbed the back of her neck and the way she was standing & the angle i grabbed her, flipped her a full 360 degrees and she landed on my lawn (that was the coolest shit to see....it was done by accident though lol)

then Miss Fat ass came after me, and that was struggle!! lol she was tryin to pull my hair & i slapped her hard enough that she stopped & took her crackwhore of a friend and drove away.

not sure who really won that.......wasnt a full blown fight. but still, a fight. :)

yes and I hate it

I am very mellow now in my old age!:thumbsup

That's all I can say! :feels-hot

I do not do mma but i am rollin with people all the time that do and i am 6'5 300lbs give or take a few and i get my ass kicked by the people who know more than me but when i roll with the guys that are equal or a little better i always win because i am so much bigger and stronger, i can completely control the way the fight goes by controling the other person so easily, unfortunately i dont know submissions besides arm bar, knee bar, and a keylock so i am pretty much fucked if the person can keep me from choking them. I think that skill is most important but if skill is close enough then the size matters.

hey congrats! Getting your blue in BJJ isn't like getting it in TKD or something, it means something. About 18 months or more of hard work, usually. They don't just give them away. Those black belts are wicked dangerous, the only black belts I've ever rolled with are Rener and Ryron Gracie and I'm like a little girl to them. They can beat most people using nothing but their legs. You won't get past their open guard and they'll snap you up into a triangle so fast you can't even see it coming.

for the guy talking about running into a BJJ guy in an alley... well it can happen but most of the guys I train with are very nice guys and like me aren't looking for trouble. Some of them won't go out of their way to avoid it though.

at 6'5 and 300 lbs all you need to know is the knee on stomach position lol

who's going to argue with you once they feel that?

There's a saying BJJ, All things being equal, for every 25lbs of weight, it' s one belt up.

So you took Japanese JJ, not Brazillian?

I throught you studied under Relson.

most guys here would be STUNNED how hard it is to box for a full two minutes. If you're not in shape you gas out so fast it's crazy.

I'm not sure what sport he's talking about. I personally have never heard of any where the smaller guy usually wins except for horse-racing. If he's a BJJ 2nd degree black belt his entire belt lineage and the date and location he got his belt will be on the web.

You must have not studied BJJ very long, Aikido is shit, and doesn't hold a candle to it.

Alot of ppl quit BJJ due to it's nature of being a truly alive fighting style. Not many ppl like being tapped out, I know I didn't when I first started.

Yer absolutely correct, and I don't see a Dan anything on http://www.bjj.org

if he had said he was a purple or something I might have taken his word for it, but 2nd degree black belt? IN BJJ? lol... they're very rare animals.

Knew he wasn't BJJ, he spelled JJ the jap way.

He did mention a long time ago, he did like 7 years worth of BJJ with Relson or somebody down in LV. If he did, he'd be listed somewhere on Don's page.

Oh well.

actually i've been in a lot of fight but swinging and getting black and blue all over doesn't appeal much now

Thanks it took me 26 months to get it because of injuries but well worth it. You are so right when you speak of the little guys who are black belts they are danger as hell size does NOT MATTER there. Most people in my class are mellow and fight to learn not to hurt people. My only downfall when i get a choke put on me i dont tap. I have been put out over 20 times this year. :(

tap when they catch you man, no sense getting a broken arm or brain damage just practicing :1orglaugh

on anything thats gonna break a bone hell yeah i tap on that. This sounds stupid but once i get choked out i wake up with this powerful burst of engery and i can focus more. I cant figure it out :1orglaugh