An interesting article by Ted Turner on big media - GoFuckYourself.com

BRISK · 07-25-2004, 10:43 AM

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...07.turner.html

Ted Turner is the founder of CNN

budz · 07-25-2004, 10:52 AM

good read.. I hope everyone knows who Ted Turner is, lol

crockett · 07-25-2004, 10:58 AM

very good read,he's a smart man.. nowtake that same theory and apply it to just about every business model in the US and you quickly see this country is being taken over by large corporations.

jimmyf · 07-25-2004, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by crockett
very good read,he's a smart man.. nowtake that same theory and apply it to just about every business model in the US and you quickly see this country is being taken over by large corporations.

if just about every business model in the US is being taken over large corporations, why then do the small companies still create the most jobs and has been for decades, and will not change any time soon.

large corporations ARE not taking over.

FlyingIguana · 07-25-2004, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
if just about every business model in the US is being taken over large corporations, why then do the small companies still create the most jobs and has been for decades, and will not change any time soon.

large corporations ARE not taking over.

because they're inefficient allowing smaller companies to jump on new growth segments or hit certain segments better than the larger corporation.

crockett · 07-25-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
if just about every business model in the US is being taken over large corporations, why then do the small companies still create the most jobs and has been for decades, and will not change any time soon.

large corporations ARE not taking over.

tell that to the thousands of small business that had niche markets that were taken over by large corporations.

Back when I was a kid I remember going to the local corner/drug store owned by a local pharmacist. I'm sure it was much the same thing in every town in the 70s-80s.. Today try and find a local drug store that is not Eckerd drugs, Walgreen's or CVS.. let alone the major super stores that are even trying to put those chains out of business such as Target and Wal-mart.

That drastic change happened in the span of 20 years or so.. if left un regulated what will the next 20 years bring?

angelsofporn · 07-25-2004, 11:31 AM

it's already happening...all the same music is pushed on us..the same horrible movies (mostly rewrites of scripts from the 60's-70's)
Now the Carlyle group is getting in the biz it will be even more multi faceted..clothing...magazines..furnishing styles..cars...
Push only the things you own portions of.

Rich · 07-25-2004, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
if just about every business model in the US is being taken over large corporations, why then do the small companies still create the most jobs and has been for decades, and will not change any time soon.

large corporations ARE not taking over.

I think you emphasized THE wrong word.

SykkBoy · 07-25-2004, 12:48 PM

Damn good read

I like Ted Turner. He may have that southern drawl and say "um" a lot, but he's a very smart man...

Pornwolf · 07-25-2004, 12:55 PM

Large corporations are taking over. The article is media focused and that's where the biggest example of this can be seen. Big companies are swallowing small ones faster than ever, which adds to this situation. The small companies sellout quickly because they can't grow any other way in today's scene. Not to mention the government isn't helping anything. It's a big clusterfuck.

dready · 07-25-2004, 03:13 PM

Despite abhoring CNN, I have a new found respect for that man.

Jdoughs · 07-25-2004, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
I think you emphasized THE wrong word.

lmao

Ironhorse · 07-25-2004, 03:19 PM

I saw him on Charlie Rose the other day, I was really impressed

jimmyf · 07-25-2004, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
I think you emphasized THE wrong word.

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Sharpie · 07-25-2004, 03:56 PM

I was about to say the same thing Ironhorse..... He is starting to get 'up there - and has mellowed some - but he is still opioniated & a smart business man.
He really makes you think! ( He certainly does not think that Bush is the right man for the job. )

Big Monkie · 07-25-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
if just about every business model in the US is being taken over large corporations, why then do the small companies still create the most jobs and has been for decades

This is a popular canard thrown out to confuse folks such as yourself. Its true that small biz creates the most jobs, but the part they never tell you is that small biz also loses the most jobs as well. Small businesses are very volatile, many are started but the overwhelming majority fail. So you have huge numbers of jobs created, but also huge numbers of jobs lost, and it balances out. They always leave that part of the stats out though, and the majority of the population continue to fall for it.

FlyingIguana · 07-25-2004, 04:50 PM

too bad he wasnt smart when the aol merger deal went down...

hershie · 07-25-2004, 05:02 PM

Justice Hugo Black, in a landmark media-ownership case in 1945, wrote: "The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public."

Have a look:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=331093&s=

07-25-2004, 10:43 AM	#1
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	An interesting article by Ted Turner on big media http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/fea...07.turner.html Ted Turner is the founder of CNN __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

07-25-2004, 10:52 AM	#2
budz Disruptive Innovator Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,230	good read.. I hope everyone knows who Ted Turner is, lol __________________ C:\Code\ C:\Code\Run\

07-25-2004, 10:58 AM	#3
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,818	very good read,he's a smart man.. nowtake that same theory and apply it to just about every business model in the US and you quickly see this country is being taken over by large corporations. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

07-25-2004, 12:48 PM	#9
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	Damn good read I like Ted Turner. He may have that southern drawl and say "um" a lot, but he's a very smart man... __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

07-25-2004, 12:55 PM	#10
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Large corporations are taking over. The article is media focused and that's where the biggest example of this can be seen. Big companies are swallowing small ones faster than ever, which adds to this situation. The small companies sellout quickly because they can't grow any other way in today's scene. Not to mention the government isn't helping anything. It's a big clusterfuck. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

07-25-2004, 11:31 AM	#7
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	it's already happening...all the same music is pushed on us..the same horrible movies (mostly rewrites of scripts from the 60's-70's) Now the Carlyle group is getting in the biz it will be even more multi faceted..clothing...magazines..furnishing styles..cars... Push only the things you own portions of.

07-25-2004, 03:13 PM	#11
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	Despite abhoring CNN, I have a new found respect for that man. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

07-25-2004, 03:19 PM	#13
Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,094	I saw him on Charlie Rose the other day, I was really impressed __________________ [email protected]

07-25-2004, 03:56 PM	#15
Sharpie Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 438	I was about to say the same thing Ironhorse..... He is starting to get 'up there - and has mellowed some - but he is still opioniated & a smart business man. He really makes you think! ( He certainly does not think that Bush is the right man for the job. )

07-25-2004, 04:50 PM	#17
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	too bad he wasnt smart when the aol merger deal went down...

07-25-2004, 05:02 PM	#18
hershie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,642	Justice Hugo Black, in a landmark media-ownership case in 1945, wrote: "The First Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public." Have a look: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=331093&s=