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chodadog 07-24-2004 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
blah blah blah blah
Why be a fuckwit and post an animated GIF of the burning? Some of us didn't watch that video because we don't want to see shit like that, and then you force it on us by posting a picture we can't help but see. Nice one, you stupid fuck.

Donny 07-24-2004 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by undermyspell
Regardless of how you feel about the video or not and how you feel about the title or not for CJ to make a "public" apology is admirable considering the reaction it has received here.

Should they have done it? Maybe and maybe not. Only the CJ owners and their legal team know. Perhaps there is more at work than a few pissed off webmasters and old ladies. Perhaps some "agency" got involved and it was either write the letter or face some nasty ramifications.

Rick's a shrewd biz man and wouldn't have written that letter had there not been a demand for it and that's the markings of a successful man. Give to your customers what is demanded.


Many good points.

jimmyf 07-24-2004 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
100 times more.
something is wrong with this world!!

100 times more complaints over a cat than human getting his head wacked off. :2 cents:

UltraSonic 07-24-2004 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
what the fuck is this bullshit? i stood by CJ for this entire thing cause they have the balls to do what NO ONE else in america has to do....and now you come here apologizing and retracting shit you did..SINCE WHEN IS CJ IN THE BUSINESS OF RETRACTING SHIT THEY PUT OUT THERE

fuck that shit

i may not send you much hits, in fact I barely send you any traffic at all, but I am pulling all links now....this is pure and total bullshit and goes against everything CJ stands for.....fuck this shit

i stood by you all, and now you pull this shit? fuck that...i love marc and paul, and rick you were a great guy for inviting me to the steak dinner when you barely knew me.....but as far as this shti is concerned...

wow....i guess now you wanna go and kiss ashcracks ass now

[animated gif cut out]

I wonder what the mods of this board will do after they find out you are posting an animated gif here of a cat that is put on fire

I sure hope you get your ass banned, wich should be the right action. :321GFY

Gottis 07-24-2004 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
I agree.

This apology strikes me as odd, unnatural, and contradicts every other thread/post Rick has made regarding this matter.

I agree with you guys. It's like Rick either was persuaded to write it or somebody else wrote it and asked Rick to post it. Neither may be true, but that's the feeling.

Donny 07-24-2004 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by UltraSonic
I wonder what the mods of this board will do after they find out you are posting an animated gif here of a cat that is put on fire

I sure hope you get your ass banned, wich should be the right action. :321GFY

What kind of fucked up individual would even take the time to create such a .gif ?? No wonder he was so vocally in support. Sounds like he's fucked up big time in the head.

jimmyf 07-24-2004 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by devilspost
LOL now Rick has the defenders pissed so now everybody is emotionaly charged on the issue. way to keep the controversy going :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
:thumbsup

jimmyf 07-24-2004 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by jawanda
Someone ban this fucktard.

for why ? :Graucho

TheMob 07-24-2004 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
an oh yeah, don't forget to add this:

when you stand up and defend yourself, make sure you can retract it later and FOLD UNDER THE PRESSURE



i have no issue about what he said earlier, fuck that shit...i have an issue about the site CJ....CJ prides itself on being the MOST OFFENSIVE SITE ON THE INTERNET...and if you retract shit you say that is offensive than you really look like an idiot

there's a fine line between being fucking offensive and just being a plain asshole.

you just crossed that line with your posts, unbelievable..

SoftFocus 07-24-2004 08:16 AM

I'm sure the old ladies will still be pissed, but I also know I can show them your freedom of speech to post such things. It's not wrong to post them, it's just wrong to mock them and laugh at them.

DP,

Were you interviewing them for a NicheBucks shoot at the same time? LOL Olderwomen.com

Donny 07-24-2004 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by SoftFocus
I'm sure the old ladies will still be pissed, but I also know I can show them your freedom of speech to post such things. It's not wrong to post them, it's just wrong to mock them and laugh at them.

DP,

Were you interviewing them for a NicheBucks shoot at the same time? LOL Olderwomen.com

Since I shoot a lot of older women I guess that could have been a logical possibility.

But, no, that wasn't the case. The old ladies I shoot for the web generally don't have much money.

Humorous thought, though. :)

Groove 07-24-2004 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I can call off the cat lovers. I wasn't going to tell anyone this, but yesterday I spent a good part of my day visiting cat lovers here in my hometown. Some of them are rich white women that spend thousands on their kitties. I explained to them what had happened in the video and it brought them to tears. Then I told them how the clip was titled. The result is exactly what I expected. I was actually organizing a meeting to discuss what to do next. But this will change all of that.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

jawanda 07-24-2004 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
for why ? :Graucho
For contradicting the only semi-good excuse CJ had for posting that vid on their site ...

"No one was forced to watch it."

This fuckwit creates an animated gif and blatantly forces it on people who don't want to see it ... that is down right retarded and fucking weak.

JaceXXX - you have absolutely zero class man.

Lick my balls.

-Phil

RightHandMan 07-24-2004 08:23 AM

Not that anyone will ever see this post but....

Rick...Your the man...

TheWildcard 07-24-2004 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaceXXX
what the fuck is this bullshit? i stood by CJ for this entire thing cause they have the balls to do what NO ONE else in america has to do....and now you come here apologizing and retracting shit you did..SINCE WHEN IS CJ IN THE BUSINESS OF RETRACTING SHIT THEY PUT OUT THERE

fuck that shit

i may not send you much hits, in fact I barely send you any traffic at all, but I am pulling all links now....this is pure and total bullshit and goes against everything CJ stands for.....fuck this shit

i stood by you all, and now you pull this shit? fuck that...i love marc and paul, and rick you were a great guy for inviting me to the steak dinner when you barely knew me.....but as far as this shti is concerned...

wow....i guess now you wanna go and kiss ashcracks ass now

http://www.praisethatpussy.com/cat.gif

You're a fucking dumbass... please go away.

UltraSonic 07-24-2004 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by TheWildcard
You're a fucking dumbass... please go away.
Uhm..... can you edit your post and cut out that gif?

jimmyf 07-24-2004 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Since I shoot a lot of older women I guess that could have been a logical possibility.

But, no, that wasn't the case. The old ladies I shoot for the web generally don't have much money.

Humorous thought, though. :)

Hey you just might be surprised, maybe you should approach some of the more open minded ones. :Graucho

I see a older woman now every once in awhile. You'd never think by looking at her, she pretty wild in bed, AND a big plus she's a squirter.

jimmyf 07-24-2004 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by jawanda
For contradicting the only semi-good excuse CJ had for posting that vid on their site ...

"No one was forced to watch it."

This fuckwit creates an animated gif and blatantly forces it on people who don't want to see it ... that is down right retarded and fucking weak.

JaceXXX - you have absolutely zero class man.

Lick my balls.

-Phil

Oh my bad !!! I didn't even see the gif.

alias 07-24-2004 08:29 AM

pussies

mardigras 07-24-2004 08:37 AM

My opinion hasn't changed from what I said the last time folks were riding Rick's ass. It's his site, he can put whatever he wants to on it and change it anytime he wishes. If you don't like it, go build the "politically correct CJ site":glugglug

TDF 07-24-2004 08:39 AM

:)

jawanda 07-24-2004 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by mardigras
My opinion hasn't changed from what I said the last time folks were riding Rick's ass. It's his site, he can put whatever he wants to on it and change it anytime he wishes. If you don't like it, go build the "politically correct CJ site":glugglug

Why don't you read this thread? The only people riding his ass are ones saying that he should keep CJ the way it is. You got it backwards.

We're now riding the ass of the dipshit JaceXXX who posted the cat burning gif IN this thread.

Strife 07-24-2004 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by Trafficbrokercom
:thumbsup


I don't get it why people compared this video to the beheading video .. the beheading video was a politcally motivated murder by terrorists with the background of a war ..

videos like the cat video with a catchy title that plays down the cruelty might motivate many kids all over the world to fry the neighbour's pet just to get on cj and be proud of it ..

very nice move, rick ! .. I hope that this will give you a lot of the webmaster's confidence back that you might have lost during the last week ..

What he said :thumbsup

Zebra 07-24-2004 08:53 AM

Wasn't JaceXXX the idiot who pissed in an ATM in Atlanta and ended up in jail for it?
Then he posted criticizing people who go wild and cause problems at shows?

Talk about some fucking hypocrisy! :321GFY

Rick, I don't think you have to worry about the words of someone who has trafficking, mail theft, and credit card fraud on his record.

mardigras 07-24-2004 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by jawanda
Why don't you read this thread? The only people riding his ass are ones saying that he should keep CJ the way it is. You got it backwards.

We're now riding the ass of the dipshit JaceXXX who posted the cat burning gif IN this thread.

I did read this thread and the ones from past incidents... and I still say, Rick can change his page any way he wishes and if that upsets someone enough they are free to design a site that meets their standards.

As far as people posting gifs to grab attention, not a part of the issue.:glugglug

Zebra 07-24-2004 09:01 AM

Seens lensman doesn't agree with the .gif either.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=330605&s=
If it keeps being posted it might become an issue.

tony286 07-24-2004 09:03 AM

Jace is a really cool guy and a very stand up one at that. He has been a very good friend to CJ and has had great respect for what they do and how they dont bend to opinion but the times are changing. Rick and I may see alot of things differently. He is a very smart business man and he sees the writing on the wall. The wild west is coming to a end.

keyboard warrior 07-24-2004 09:06 AM

Little Late ya think ?


Well it's about time.

alexg 07-24-2004 09:08 AM

:thumbsup

fuelcell 07-24-2004 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by devilspost
Justs go to show how fucking stupid the sheep are. Drop a 100 tons of napalm on humanbeings and say it is fighting for freedom, everybody cheers!
Yep. (but not everybody)

CDSmith 07-24-2004 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
Alright, so what are you saying? You're not going to post videos like that anymore, or you're not going to give them names that mock what is happening?
It reads pretty clear to me. He is apologizing for the wording of the title, not for posting the video itself.

I can respect that. The title was on the unfortunate side.

Brad Mitchell 07-24-2004 09:23 AM

:thumbsup

Donny 07-24-2004 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
It reads pretty clear to me. He is apologizing for the wording of the title, not for posting the video itself.

I can respect that. The title was on the unfortunate side.


That's how I read it too.

Fletch XXX 07-24-2004 09:48 AM

man i hate when people give in.

i hate these threads, i really do.

KRL 07-24-2004 09:48 AM

Rick, Marc, and CJ Team

Just want to deeply deeply and totally thank you guys for this decision revision and being sensitive and understanding in resolving this issue in such a prompt and professional manner.

The reason why the cat video drew such an uproar in comparison to the beheading and other videos is that little animals are like children. They are completely defenseless, innocent, dependent on us for their survival, loving, playful, cuddly, cute, gentle, precious, and more.

Losing a pet or seeing a pet hurt is as traumatic an event emotionally and psychologically to the majority of people as losing or seeing a child being hurt. Its that simple. It hits us at the core of our souls, and hits us so hard their pain and suffering is felt as our own pain. Most people value their pets to their hearts on the same level as their children. They are a part of the family. Most people are capable of killing someone who would hurt a child or a small animal I truly believe. And you could see that level of emotion clearly in many of the posts.

If there is anything the overwhelming majority of the Web would agree on I think it would be there is one line out there, and it stops with the exploitation of children and cruelty to animals. Doesn't mean that many people cross that line despite the majority of people thinking anything past it is wrong, as we see with the unstoppable exploitation of kids by CP producers. But clearly if everyone was queried, I'm sure those two would be at the top of the list.

I stated in one of my threads, the Net is one of the greatest communications tools mankind has ever created. Its very nature and structure is sheer brilliance - the Net is all of us. We get to play God. We get to be its creators. It is what we are. The good the bad and the ugly all intertwined into a hodgepodge of all our knowledge, all our thoughts, all our humor, all our fantasies, all our wharped and twisted perversions.

In light of this freedom and such stretching power to create things that the entire planet can see and experience comes the inherent responsibility to govern ourselves and with minimal intervention of governments and powerful media corporations who traditionally are the regulators of all that is seen by the public.

This responsibility though virtually completely unrestricted and unhindered because of the very nature of the Net's structure, is policed at the end of the day best by the voices of ourselves.

And those voices when spoken in unity have immense and dramatic power, as we saw this past week with the cat video. Mere voices unified can exert the power of weapons, sometimes with the intensity of an all out battlefield.

The people, your customers, your advertisers, your friends, your business associates, even your die hard CJ fans, spoke to you, and spoke with a ferocious roar. You and your team undoubtley had many sleepless and frustrating days dealing with this, and I'm sure this had to be one of the most difficult business decisions since CJ was founded. Especially since your site is solidly based on the mantra that no holes are barred, we show it all.

You listened to everyone's voices and responded accordingly and for that I commend you and say you did the right thing with this situation and deserve to have full restoration of all your business and fan relationships that were affected by this.

For what its worth, you have my full respect again and I deeply applaud you for handling this issue so responsibly.

Donny 07-24-2004 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
man i hate when people give in.

i hate these threads, i really do.

I'm sure you do. Someday you'll grow up and see that, in order to do good business, sometimes you must re-evaluate your personal opinions.

This means you must sometimes allow for the possibility that you're WRONG about something.

Or sometimes you must choose to hold your tongue until you've tried to work things out with someone before you publicly cry on message boards.

That's part of being a successful business person. You seem like a bright person. You really will learn someday. I guarantee it.

Fletch XXX 07-24-2004 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I'm sure you do. Someday you'll grow up and see that, in order to do good business, sometimes you must re-evaluate your personal opinions.

This means you must sometimes allow for the possibility that you're WRONG about something.

Or sometimes you must choose to hold your tongue until you've tried to work things out with someone before you publicly cry on message boards.

That's part of being a successful business person. You seem like a bright person. You really will learn someday. I guarantee it.

Donny you really need to stop even quoting me.

one day you will realize i have nothing to say to you,. please puit me on ignore, go spend some time with your fucking kid instead of trying to talkt o me.

you fucked me over in a deal, you have no place tal;king about anything to do about growing up.

seriously, put me on ignorwe and stop quoting and/or replying to me.

Spunky 07-24-2004 10:00 AM

You did the right thing.:thumbsup

czarina 07-24-2004 10:01 AM

For what is worth, I support you, Rick. Nice letter.

Donny 07-24-2004 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
you fucked me over in a deal, you have no place tal;king about anything to do about growing up.
I paid your normal price, PLUS I gave you 25% of sales DIRECTLY from CCBill. And I fucked you over?

Odd. I thought I was being a nice guy and doing what no one else was willing to do.

Has your good buddy Quiet ever offered such a thing?


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