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Old 07-23-2004, 05:08 PM   #1
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Most Content Companies NOT willing to cooperate with 2257

Okay,

I spent the past 2 days e-mailing and icq'ing all of the companies that i have dealt with over the past few years buying sets from.

As far as getting copies of id's, model releases, etc.....

The general consensus is mixed.

out of about 15 providers, only 2 or 3 have been willing to provide me with what i need and even then, those are copies of id's with personal information blurred out.

MOST other companies have told me they are working on it or that i am safe because their custodian of records has everything i need should my business be raided.

To add to the mess, most content ive found i own contains tons of foreign models holding up their id's from the czech republic or something which is totally useless.


SO....
On that date in August when the new changes go into effect. and For some reason if i get raided... WHAT THE FUCK DO I TELL THEM?

oh sorry, all the records for these are kept by others and they wouldnt give them to me?

Seems like there is no fucking way im going to get what i need record wise by the deadline date.

Im assuming it is the same for most or all of you.

ESPECIALLY TGP GALLERY GUYS....

i see the only option is to get out of the biz and start over when this mess makes more sense.

WTF should i do here?

are we all going to be dreading picking up our soap in the prison showers or is there something or anything that can help us out here?

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Old 07-23-2004, 05:16 PM   #2
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It is very clear. I suggest talking to a lawyer and finding out why your fears and thoughts are totally off base. Oh the quiting idea though I am all for, hopefully many take this advice.
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Old 07-23-2004, 05:20 PM   #3
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Raided?



You newbies to this industry crack me up.
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Old 07-23-2004, 05:23 PM   #4
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i would be more worried about paying for all those new windows that the cia and fbi will break when they swarm your house with a swat team
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Old 07-23-2004, 05:23 PM   #5
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Old 07-23-2004, 05:44 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Nardimus
Okay,

I spent the past 2 days e-mailing and icq'ing all of the companies that i have dealt with over the past few years buying sets from.

As far as getting copies of id's, model releases, etc.....

The general consensus is mixed.

out of about 15 providers, only 2 or 3 have been willing to provide me with what i need and even then, those are copies of id's with personal information blurred out.

MOST other companies have told me they are working on it or that i am safe because their custodian of records has everything i need should my business be raided.

To add to the mess, most content ive found i own contains tons of foreign models holding up their id's from the czech republic or something which is totally useless.


SO....
On that date in August when the new changes go into effect. and For some reason if i get raided... WHAT THE FUCK DO I TELL THEM?

oh sorry, all the records for these are kept by others and they wouldnt give them to me?

Seems like there is no fucking way im going to get what i need record wise by the deadline date.

Im assuming it is the same for most or all of you.

ESPECIALLY TGP GALLERY GUYS....

i see the only option is to get out of the biz and start over when this mess makes more sense.

WTF should i do here?

are we all going to be dreading picking up our soap in the prison showers or is there something or anything that can help us out here?

Here's my advice to you......























































SHUT THE FUCK UP!
GET A CLUE!
HIRE A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY.

THERE IS NO FUCKING LAW THAT REQUIRES YOU TO GATHER THOSE DOCS!

Any questions?

Assholes like you are creating problems for content providers all over the world.
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Old 07-23-2004, 05:45 PM   #7
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MOST other companies have told me they are working on it or that i am safe because their custodian of records has everything i need should my business be raided......

SO....
On that date in August when the new changes go into effect. and For some reason if i get raided... WHAT THE FUCK DO I TELL THEM?

oh sorry, all the records for these are kept by others and they wouldnt give them to me?
You've got a valid point, although the word "raided" isn't really the right thing to call it...but yea, here's the deal -- the custodian of records doesn't have what the govt. wants and you're hiring a lawyer and looking at jail time, my friend. And I'm just as nervous as you are...I'm the custodian of record for my production company, and I'm crossing my "t"s and dotting the "i"s and this is with the old rule...new rules and this could be *exactly* what the govt. is trying to do...put us out of business.

All those think this is a lughing matter...it ain't. Trust me.

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Old 07-23-2004, 05:46 PM   #8
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Old 07-23-2004, 05:49 PM   #9
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:04 PM   #10
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:43 AM   #11
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Raided?



You newbies to this industry crack me up.
dude, i been here since 96 lick it.
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:45 AM   #12
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Old 07-24-2004, 12:47 AM   #13
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SHUT THE FUCK UP!
GET A CLUE!
HIRE A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY.

THERE IS NO FUCKING LAW THAT REQUIRES YOU TO GATHER THOSE DOCS!

Any questions?

Assholes like you are creating problems for content providers all over the world. [/B]
from what i understand the only thing in between this new shit going live and our fucked over ness (yeah thats a word you fuck tart) is an open period for the "community" to express their concerns.

after that, its as good as a go. no court hearings to determine if its legit... if the attorney general says its legit, its legit.

so what then?

you can wait around and see i guess.
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Old 07-24-2004, 01:21 AM   #14
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Old 07-24-2004, 01:23 AM   #15
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Okay,

I spent the past 2 days e-mailing and icq'ing all of the companies that i have dealt with over the past few years buying sets from.

As far as getting copies of id's, model releases, etc.....

The general consensus is mixed.

out of about 15 providers, only 2 or 3 have been willing to provide me with what i need and even then, those are copies of id's with personal information blurred out.

MOST other companies have told me they are working on it or that i am safe because their custodian of records has everything i need should my business be raided.

To add to the mess, most content ive found i own contains tons of foreign models holding up their id's from the czech republic or something which is totally useless.


SO....
On that date in August when the new changes go into effect. and For some reason if i get raided... WHAT THE FUCK DO I TELL THEM?

oh sorry, all the records for these are kept by others and they wouldnt give them to me?

Seems like there is no fucking way im going to get what i need record wise by the deadline date.

Im assuming it is the same for most or all of you.

ESPECIALLY TGP GALLERY GUYS....

i see the only option is to get out of the biz and start over when this mess makes more sense.

WTF should i do here?

are we all going to be dreading picking up our soap in the prison showers or is there something or anything that can help us out here?

You need to start smoking marijuana
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Old 07-24-2004, 01:54 AM   #16
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You need to start smoking marijuana
i smoke every hour, maybe thats my problem?
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Old 07-24-2004, 01:54 AM   #17
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[I]Everyone is in a panic. Take it ez. Don't get angry, either............
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Old 07-24-2004, 01:58 AM   #18
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[I]Everyone is in a panic. Take it ez. Don't get angry, either............
im tryin, but when 80% of my content vendors are sayin ahhh eat it guy, im freakin. im having visions of bars and mcmannis from OZ tellin me to chill.
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Old 07-24-2004, 01:59 AM   #19
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I'm totally amazed at how cavalierly some people seem to handle the questions about what is a very serious situation.

The secondary producer definition is rather clear, I'm not sure how some fail to see that. And what secondary producers are required to have in their possession is also very clear as to what, just not how much of it.
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Old 07-24-2004, 02:01 AM   #20
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They day you get raided just for running legal websites is the day you will know its time to move to another country.
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:53 AM   #21
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from what i understand the only thing in between this new shit going live and our fucked over ness (yeah thats a word you fuck tart) is an open period for the "community" to express their concerns.

after that, its as good as a go. no court hearings to determine if its legit... if the attorney general says its legit, its legit.

so what then?

you can wait around and see i guess.
Of course it's going to go through you idiot. That's not WTF I am talking about.

Go ahead and continue to post and make yourself look stupid.
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Old 07-24-2004, 04:02 AM   #22
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time to move on to mature content!
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Old 07-24-2004, 07:02 AM   #23
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kak_azn, I think that we can sell teens
But (!) hosts must be located in not USA (Netherlands will be better place)
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Old 07-24-2004, 09:15 AM   #24
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