Nah, stick em in a normal home where the alcoholic straight daddy kicks ass and takes names:winkwink: :thumbsup

Homosexuality was invented by Truman Capote and Paul Lynde sometime in the '60's:glugglug

gay people deserve the same rights as straight people,

a civil union is discrimination,

no one said the church has to mary gay people,

but the judges at city halls, should,

the governments view on mariage should not be based on religion,

tones of interfaith people marry, and so to many people who do not beleive in god or belong to any church,

and many people get legal divorces which is against many religions,

so a marriage at city hall, has nothing to do with god, or at least should not, a marrige is already a civil matter, so a civil union for gay people is just a seperate but equal form of gay bashing,

fuck marriage

why do gay people want in on this big scam? smarten the fuck up you homo's.

i agree with alexg on adoptions issue. I don't mind about gay marriages, but kids are a whole different, more complicated chapter.

i know gay people who would make better parents than many straight people,

stop for a second and think about the bad stuff that happends to kids in the real world,

then get of the gay bashing band wagon and realize they are people like anyone else,

some good, some bad, some perfectly capable of being good parents,

other not nearly capable,

the criteria for adoption should be based on the individual cadidates, irefardless of being gay or not,

thinks, like a support system, the home, stability, general abilities of the adopters are most important, not wether they are gay or not,

lots of straight people are high on drugs burning cigarette wholes in there kids skin,

while gay couples are working and living healthy lives, and could care and raise a child easily like most straight people, most gay people are not monsters,

so stop the hatting,

And GAY parents aren't forcing a gay lifestyle on anyone...when the child is old enough and discovers he's heterosexual, he can have a hetero lifestyle.

LOL...and the best part of that is since so many homophobic freaks with that very mindset have opted to load up the sperm banks for the short term cash payout, it is very very possible for gays (through a surrogate) and lesbians (from in vitro, anonymous donations) to be able to have their own children....

nothing with it, they do it so its their choice

marriage was created so men wouldn't have to leave their money to illegitimate heirs and so royals could keep their bloodlines pure.

It seems I got misunderstood. I don;t agree with alexg on the following:

"letting gay couples adopt children means forcing gay lifestyle and gay parents on the children, and I don't support that"

but I agree that gay couples adopting kids is not an easy yes.

It doesn't have anything to do with gay or lesbians. My concern is if the kids will manage to grew normally without psychological problems in a society that doesnt accept gay people as it should. There's nothing worse than a depressed kid, a kid with psychological problems. A single event, phrase, scene can affect a kid for a lifetime and that's what I worry the most.

If a single male parent can grow with no problems a kid, then two men can do the same.

It's not about who the parents are, but is related with the society standards. It's a question scientists are in better position to answer than the rest of us.
A grown man on his first sexual contact receives a negative comment and for the rest of his life is affected. Can you guarantee me for example that the comments about the sexuality of their parents in school won't affect them for a lifetime?

I dont care......

let them do what they want to do, just dont bother me with it

Live and let live

I sell wedding rings - I'm all for it.

I dont care:glugglug

yep, someone might get mad fun of, but life is tuff, being raised by two gay men, or raised by 2 woman is not the end of the world,

we have to live with the cards life deals us, and we are who we are because of the life we get delt,

people grow up without fathers, with parents in prison, with abusive parents and substance abusing parents, and others are poor, or interracial, or ugly, or fat, or whatever, they all get made fun of, have to over come adversity,

my point is, all people have the right to raise there own children,
and as far as adoptions go, there are good homes waiting for kids in gay homes,

Do you promise to honor, obey, and shove your cock in this mans ass for life?:moon



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I really could care less, just making fun of light in loafer fellows...

always funny to read how narrow minded some people are, im just awaiting a post of some nerd whos gonna proof with some report that 2 homos raising kids generate kids who are gay too, probably there made by some christian shit agency just like the masturbation kills pages

sad sad

nature vs. nurture

its a interesting debate, but I mean at the end of the day, who cares,

the real sickness in society, is the zealots and bigots, who do more damage, than two daddys could ever do,

all I have to say, is stop the hate,

also, think what some think of your lifestyle,

your suitability to raise children, your family values,

in case you had not notice, adult webmasters are not to popular

and a amendmant to ban porno is as popular idea in many circles as banning gay marriage,

The first recorded mention of homosexuality in literature is, in fact, a major component in THE OLDEST recorded literature: in the Epic Poem of Gilgamesh and Enkidu. The story is estimated to have been written in cuneform well over 1000 years before the hebrew bible surfaced, and is believed to have been carried by the oral traditions (no pun intended) for perhaps another 1000 years prior in some form or the other. It's widely regarded as the oldest surviving narrative work.

You can find out a bit more about it at this site.

I think gays couples should have all the rights and benefits of married couples, but they should keep the marriage up to the church, not the government. :2 cents:

I think Jesus today would support gay marriage.

Didn't Jesus save that woman from getting stoned to death because some religious nuts said she was a prostitute? And Jesus told them that they are no better than she.
So I think Jesus would tell these people that same message today, to leave the gays alone and that the religious people are no better than anyone else : )

It works fine in the Netherlands

I really think thats the right spirit. On the other hand, a lot of homosexual people usually tend they want to scream it off the roof <---> attention whores.

it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy

Not according to Rick Santorum, he says that country fell apart because of it:1orglaugh

Theres apparently only 1 reference to homosexuality in the Bible and it wasn't made by Jesus. I think it was made by Paul in a letter he sent back to Rome.
In case anyone actually cares to research.

but until then, he must bear with having 2 daddies...

I think they have the right to get married. Whether they call it marriage, or a civil union, doesn't really concern me. I don't think they should be allowed to adopt children.

masterbating kills kittens

i thought everyone knew that?

If the "normal" male female parents were living up to their claims that they are "better" parents, there wouldn't be any children to adopt...

You are probably right though. Its better to shove the unwanted kids on the government and pay their support with your taxes.

OR:

Just demand abortions and use the fetus for stem cell research.

better them than me!

[Since the Republicans have gone out on something of a limb over this issue, I'm surprized we haven't seen their usual apologists in this thread yet.]

I'm in two minds about the adoption side of this. I know that "normal" families are a lottery for kids. In any case, when you see great kids and total screw-ups coming from the same families, it makes you wonder just how much influence parents have in the first place.

But except in extreme circumstances there isn't a whole lot we can do about what happens to kids who are brought up by one or more of their parents. Whereas the state (via adoption laws) does have the ability (and the duty) to make choices. At the very least, children adopted into relationships that society still doesn't consider normal, are going to suffer more than the usual cruelty from their peers.

I don't pretend to have the first idea whether they may suffer in other ways. But that is the point. Rather than being primarily concerned with the rights of gay adults, shouldn't a decision on this issue be postponed until there are some solid stats as to whether children brought up in gay families suffer more or fewer problems than other children? There must be enough children being brought up by a natural parents who have moved into gay relationships to make such a study possible [I assume no such study has been done, because if it had, we wouldn't still be arguing theory].

It's a free country, let em do what they want. What do I care?

If it's truly all about children and marriage, then there should be a constitutional amendment to disallow "no-contest" divorces when children would be affected, right? That was one of sen. Clintons stands.

Also, arranged marriages have only about a 20 to 30% divorce rate. Compared to the 50 to 60% divorce rate of typical American marriages, arranged marriages are clearly better for children, right?

Bringing children and family into the debate was a tactic that didnt work. The No vote to not even debate the issue was a clear stand that we're not going to abuse the constitution for a political campaign. It had nothing to do with children or families.

I say live and let live......

I do not like the public displays by them though....:2 cents:

People should have the same rights regardless of their sexuality. I support Gay marriages. :thumbsup

First off moron. Since this is the internet you cant say I said "Cuz god said so" and totally meant it like i was 100% seirous. In fact i had a thought people would misinterprete that part of what i said. Point is that amazing low life compared god to fucking stanta clause. what part of that do u not understand..As far as chastizing, Iv done no such thing. You should read more carefully and actually get the point of the opinion before speaking. BTW if you scroll back to my post theres nothing there that says "fucking god". Honestly you have to try and read better before making a debate.

"Knoweledge" goes a long way! Reading helps build knoweledge!

I've been following this marriage issue for a while...

The reality is all this issue is really is a political issue being used to sway and bring in more conservative voters.There are many other higher priorities than this currently, war in iraq, oil prices, economy, etc.

But the republicans are trying to make this an issue right now to gain momentum and gather more conservatives who may not be happy about the current administration.

Ofcourse they are trying to make it look like this is a value issue, but we all know it is not.

Good Christians like you proclaim to be do not curse. Especially using the name of "God" in the same sentence tsk tsk.

And YOU need to re-read your posts more carefully, because you did say :"cuz fucking god says so" I just copied it from your message and pasted it. shame shame :disgust