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Spunky 07-12-2004 10:13 PM

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Paul Markham 07-12-2004 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
I have all of your stolen content all over my galleries.. sleep on that tonight hippy
Please do, I could do with the $300 a month you would send.

Keep going idiot this is costing you more than me.

Paul Markham 07-12-2004 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
did you read epiccash's contract?

do you have a copy of it?

please post it if you do.

otherwise shut your pie hole.

you have no idea what we signed.

I have an educated guess and that guess is it will be like the others.

You're a small player, too scared to fight. They would not have done you any favours.

You prove me wrong and post the contract or you shut your pipe hole.

VirtuMike 07-12-2004 10:18 PM

Yeah dude that's a pretty grizzly reading.

pxxx 07-12-2004 10:18 PM

So far so good

woot woot:thumbsup

Paul Markham 07-12-2004 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
That list isnt complete just a FYI
It's the only one I could find, but if anyone else knows of a licensee let them post it up.

Paul Markham 07-12-2004 10:35 PM

I'm currently giving content to some defendants, FREE, and have given cash already and will give more.

I'm sat in the Czech Republic and do not have to give a penny, in fact a win by Acacia would have been financially beneficial for us. We could have rolled back to here and operated from here. We could have opened paysites and delivered videos without having to worry about them. There patent is not valid here.

But I chose to fight, to give a time effort and money to keep this in front of people. I was assisted by a few notably Brandon :thumbsup . There are things that are right and need to be fought for.

This fight is not over, we just won a round. We need to make sure as an industry we do not falter and let it slip. As someone has pointed out this would be very sad if we were to lose this because of the lack of money.

There are many ways everyone can help. Make sure you are not funding Acacia by dealing with a licensee, dealing with the defendants instead. Sending money to those who have spent so much on our behalf already.

Look into yourself and ask ?WHAT CAN I GIVE?

baddog 07-12-2004 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by undermyspell
AdultGrind's view on the article...

It seems that whoever was researching the various meanings of phrases and words in question in Acacia vs. New Destiny relied heavily on Webster?s dictionary for the precise definitions.

In a 40 page ruling handed down today by Judge Ware it spelled out the various items and pieces of the patent claims that were in question and identified what the plaintiff (Acacia) believed was the correct way to interpret and what the defendant (New Destiny) believed was the correct interpretation.

Rest of the Story Here

pretty good analysis, I am impressed

undermyspell 07-12-2004 10:56 PM

thank ya baddog... :winkwink:

p1mpdogg 07-12-2004 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I have an educated guess and that guess is it will be like the others.

You're a small player, too scared to fight. They would not have done you any favours.

You prove me wrong and post the contract or you shut your pipe hole.

i am a small player, yet i have no balls to fight like ce, pornkings, trafficcashgold?

you fucking clown

you are such an idiot its silly

BluMedia 07-12-2004 11:09 PM

I will be laughing at everyone that settled with this is over.

Tempest 07-12-2004 11:10 PM

I should go read these actual patents... This is definately some good news... but after reading thru some of the document, I'm stuck by the absurdity of it all... Having designed hardware devices in the past, from what I read about the defination of things etc., it appears to me that the original patents were supposed to apply to "hardware" devices and not "software". i.e. the actual hardware/electronics that compress/decompress data as it's sent via say satelites etc... Does anyone know anything more about the specifics of these patents? Or where I can go to read them...

Honeyslut 07-12-2004 11:19 PM

Thank you Spike and the rest of the team for defending this issue.



:)

Rochard 07-12-2004 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I'm currently giving content to some defendants, FREE, and have given cash already and will give more.
This is very true. Thousands of dollars worth of content.

Jonathan Quarkschowski 07-12-2004 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
i am a small player
word

pornguy 07-12-2004 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
I haven't read through the 40 pages.. been on the phone and helping to spread the word, but got the scoope from various sources... some of the claims from acacia don't hold up, which leads to a non-infringement verdict (eventually) for the defendants.

This is very bad for Acacia... buh-bye...

I will be travelling on biz all day tomorrow, so I wanted to just get it out there for people to read before i can get a chance to digest it and present it in my own patented way. I'll write up my summary on the plane and post as soon as i can.

The short summary: it's all good for the defendants.

:)




Fight the Rush!






HA! I have you now!!!

You used the phrase that I got a patent on!! " present it in my own patented way" Now you owe me

1 gazillion trillion billion hundred thousand ,,,, Uuuuhhhhh I forgot what I was saying...

Can I get a buck I want a diet coke!


Congrats to Paul or charley or who ever the hell he is..

CDSmith 07-12-2004 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
Exellent news, we will never forget the sell-outs. Never. :glugglug

CDSmith 07-13-2004 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
It's not over yet, the Markman terms definition stage is a preliminary stage before the parties can weed out the crucial issues in the case. Hopefully, with certain key terms like "remote locations" decided in the Defendants' favor in ENOUGH of the claims (remember, there's MANY claims per grouping) this should put the scare on ACACIA.
That's right. It's not over yet.

Donations for the defense are still needed.

galleryseek 07-13-2004 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BluMedia
I will be laughing at everyone that settled with this is over.
LOL!! Yeah, like that pimpledogg moron :1orglaugh

King Adam 07-13-2004 12:14 AM

Any news that contributes to the overrall distruction of Acacia is good news and reason to celebrate. Being confident and keeping a postive attitude is healthy.

Thanks Spike, Clayman, and the rest of the leaders that are fighting to make things right.

Spunky 07-13-2004 06:40 AM

Pump this up.

Tala 07-13-2004 07:00 AM

:GFYBand :GFYBand :banana :banana


I have to say, though, that those who sold out, (I hope), thought they were making a wise business decision at the time. However....


It's good to see that Acacia got bitchslapped. It's about damn time. Thanks to all of those who are fighting this, (and I walked up to Brandon personally in San Diego and thanked him. I wasn't thanking him just for my benefit or for the company I happen to work with, because neither of us would be bothered by the ruling, but for EVERYONE. That's comething about us as a whole: we're a community, more or less, and what hurts one can sometimes hurt us all.)

FIGHT THE BULLSHIT! :thumbsup

crockett 07-13-2004 07:16 AM

Just wanted to say again, congrats to the Defense group, and all the people that have supported them. It's not over yet, but this is a very good sign.

I'd also like to say, I hope all those that settled ended up paying the fees for a few extra years and end up in court over it. Would be ironic to say the least.. :1orglaugh

For all you fuck tards that haven't donated a dime :321GFY

pimpdog go be a e-thug in another topic, this on is not for you. your e-thugged ass caved in and settled instead of fighting. So where your dogs at now?

Paul Markham 07-13-2004 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
This is very true. Thousands of dollars worth of content.
You earned every cent of it. Steve stood up when puppies were rolling over licking lawyers balls.

Want any more just come knocking, if I could send you traffic I would.

See you in Miami?

Paul Markham 07-13-2004 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
Just wanted to say again, congrats to the Defense group, and all the people that have supported them. It's not over yet, but this is a very good sign.

I'd also like to say, I hope all those that settled ended up paying the fees for a few extra years and end up in court over it. Would be ironic to say the least.. :1orglaugh

For all you fuck tards that haven't donated a dime :321GFY

pimpdog go be a e-thug in another topic, this on is not for you. your e-thugged ass caved in and settled instead of fighting. So where your dogs at now?

Good post.

There is still a way to go yet and the bills still have to be paid.

Well if the judge only says the patent does not apply to those in the defense group that means those who are paying still have to ppay. Acacia might be meeting today to review the situation. Go back to courth and get a ruling that says the patent is not valid at all and lose everything.

Walk away from the fight and keep what they have.

There are many who talk and a few who put up.

Puppy has shown himself to be a fool on many occasions, now he's shown himself to be a liar as well. Not a good partner. I'm sure Acacia will not miss his money when they pull down the shutters.

lazycash 07-13-2004 07:44 AM

Acacia's stock (actg) is taking a plunge today, down over 40% in the first hour of trading. Time to watch the snakes start to squirm.

jayeff 07-13-2004 07:46 AM

I hope at the very least everyone switches their traffic/business from someone who caved in, to someone who is still fighting Acacia. This is one of the few times when it needn't cost a penny to support someone who isn't just thinking about their own short-term interests.

scoreman 07-13-2004 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
did you read epiccash's contract?

do you have a copy of it?

please post it if you do.

otherwise shut your pie hole.

you have no idea what we signed.

For $300 a month, your telling us that Acacia gave you an easy out on your contract? :ugone2far

All the contracts with them I saw were pretty explicit that the licensees were obligated to pay until a Court of final jurisdiction ruled the patents invalid with no further issues that could be appealed.

You might as well settle in for years of payments. The lawyers just spent months and months arguing over the meaning of the word "with" (among others), Acacia will appeal this forever, if only to keep the recurring income flowing from the signed licensees. Failure to pay by the licensees will be followed by a swift breach of contract suit by Acacia. Good luck winning that one.

Paparazzi 07-13-2004 09:02 AM

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D-Money 07-13-2004 09:13 AM

Fight the fight!!!!

Well, for those of you who stood up and stood your ground, much respect.

If you'd like to hear the first interview Acacia did, you can listen to our archive when I had Robert on my show.

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/archives_...ly29_2003.html

I was sent papers from them and did the interview using the same streaming technology in question.

Chuuuch!

James_Cash 07-13-2004 09:13 AM

I personally like this line:

In this case, the Court cannot define the term "identification encoding means" because there is no corresponding structure in the specification that is linked to the functions recited in the claims. If the Court adopts this finding as its final conclusion on this matter, this would render claims 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10 and 11 of the '992 patent indefinite.





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James

ICQ: 21267736
[email protected]

jimmyf 07-13-2004 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
are you mad you signed up now?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh I would think so

jimmyf 07-13-2004 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dicknixon
Best thread ever.

I'll say it like I never said it before . . .

F U C K A C A C I A!

dam sure in the top 5

F..U..C..K A..C..A..C..I..A..........:thumbsup

Sama 07-13-2004 09:29 AM

Quote:

I hope at the very least everyone switches their traffic/business from someone who caved in, to someone who is still fighting Acacia. This is one of the few times when it needn't cost a penny to support someone who isn't just thinking about their own short-term interests.
:thumbsup

If every webmaster here on GFY donated $100, that would be enough to finally pound the Last nail in their coffin for good.

I saw the list Charly posted regarding the "Cave In's vs. "Our Defenders" ..... If you can't fine a few bucks to donate, AT LEAST SUPPORT and push traffic/sales to the Sponsors that went to bat for the Adult Industry. Every single sale you make help their bottom line which inturn will help the Good Fight! I just dropped one sponsor that was a "Cave In" and replaced it with a Supporter with the same type of site and niche. Here is the list posted by Charly
Quote:

And those that stood up and fought for us all with their time, effort and MONEY. Companies challenging Acacia's patent infringement claims in court:

Defense Group:

Video Secrets
Homegrown Video
Lightspeed
ARS
Gamelink
Ademia
AEBN
Audio Communications
Silver Cash
Max Cash
HomeGrownVideo
SunUp Media
National A-1 (hotmovies.com)
Adult.com
Club Jenna
ProAdult
Adult Check

Time to check who you support?

Manowar 07-13-2004 09:38 AM

they got owned :glugglug

James_Cash 07-13-2004 09:40 AM

Makes my day so much better.

Except I spent a good hour reading the damn thing.

mardigras 07-13-2004 10:46 AM

Here's hoping this is just the first of good news. Thanks everyone who's on the battlefront!

allandk 07-13-2004 11:24 AM

.. and fuck the companies that ran for cover.. for ever..

Quote:

And those that stood up and fought for us all with their time, effort and MONEY. Companies challenging Acacia's patent infringement claims in court:

Video Secrets
Homegrown Video
Lightspeed
ARS
Gamelink
Ademia
AEBN
Audio Communications
Silver Cash
Max Cash
HomeGrownVideo
SunUp Media
National A-1 (hotmovies.com)
Adult.com
Club Jenna
ProAdult
Adult Check



Far-L 07-13-2004 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
I have all of your stolen content all over my galleries.. sleep on that tonight hippy


Admitting to abusing copyrights in a public forum?

Sleep on the settlement that you will be paying out when someone sues you.

Far-L 07-13-2004 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
why on earth wouldnt i lie to acacia about our income moron?

by the time you send this thread to them, or quote me and it makes its way to thier lawyers when they have time to breathe.. the suit will be over with.

you are not very bright are you?

fuck acacia, im saving money by giving them a taste of what they are losing out on..

just enough to satisfy them...

you are a moron arnt you., that isnt a question either.

You admit to lying and stealing in a public forum and you are calling other people dumbasses?

pornstar2pac 07-13-2004 11:46 AM

I short , I'm rich:)

FightThisPatent 07-13-2004 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by D-Money


If you'd like to hear the first interview Acacia did, you can listen to our archive when I had Robert on my show.

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/archives_...ly29_2003.html



Many dumb things came out of Berman's mouth from D$'s interview.. it's a classic...... u rock bro!


I'll have a summary of the Markman Order posted in a few hours.

Fight the Out of Town!

bdeforest 07-13-2004 01:32 PM

Thanks to all those who are supporting ARS and the other defendants in this case. We certainly appreciate it.

If you want to help in this fight, icq me - 85868511. I want to talk to you!!! You can earn a ton of cash and help us fight this lawsuit for all of the industry at the same time. That's a win win situation :)

FightThisPatent 07-13-2004 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdeforest
Thanks to all those who are supporting ARS and the other defendants in this case. We certainly appreciate it.



Blacklisting and picketing companies that signed is not the way to go.. too negative..... show your support by joining the programs that are in the fight and do something positive.

A very strong precedent needs to be set to send a warning to any would-be patent holder looking to come trolling.

Money in the pockets of defense group members means more money to keep hammering... and hammers and nails do cost money.


Fight the Six Feet Under!

PMdave 07-13-2004 01:48 PM

Real shame this is thread is being ruined by the Markham-Pimpdog fight.
Although I'm no pimpdog fan and I really love Paul I really don't see why there should be so much anger.

So he settled? His disission!
Did he ever told you how to run your biz?

We all know about it now and webmasters that are bothered by the fact that epiccash is a buyout would have pulled all traffic by now. Since epic still stands (although many people were saying for months that they will be gone within weeks), they must be doing something right.




on a sidenote: Hasn't topbucks settled also?

FightThisPatent 07-13-2004 02:11 PM

My Markman Order Summary is up.

Read there: http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/Mar...erSummary.html


Post here:




Fight the Lateness!

jojojo 07-13-2004 02:24 PM

why do they need more money exactly? these companies all make millions of dollars as it is?

How could they RUN out of money?

Why are you asking low end webmasters to chip in anything when these companies have MILLIONS to use to defend this?

I dont get it...

ChristianEngstrom 07-13-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I'm sat in the Czech Republic and do not have to give a penny, in fact a win by Acacia would have been financially beneficial for us. We could have rolled back to here and operated from here. We could have opened paysites and delivered videos without having to worry about them. There patent is not valid here.

Unfortunately, I think you're wrong about being safe because you're located in Europe. The European Patent Office has granted Acacia's patent here as well. The number of the European patent is EP0566662. See http://www.ffii.se/acacia/index_eng.html for more details.

FFII, Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure, is the leading European organization fighting software patents. The issue of software patents is currently under intense discussion among legislators in Brussels. Right now the outcome pretty much hangs in the balance, so it's possible that we'll be successful in out fight to ban software patent altogether here in Europe. That would make Acacia's patent worthless here.

But it could go the other way as well, so any constructive help with the political lobbying would be much appreciated. The issue will (probably) be decided in the European Parliament this autumn, so it is right now that the window of opportunity is open.

GonePhishing 07-13-2004 02:41 PM

Thank you to all the defense team and congrats! Also a thanks to folks like brandon and anyone I am forgetting! Much appreciation!

mardigras 07-13-2004 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jojojo
why do they need more money exactly? these companies all make millions of dollars as it is?

How could they RUN out of money?

Why are you asking low end webmasters to chip in anything when these companies have MILLIONS to use to defend this?

I dont get it...

Some polititians have millions. Why do they need tax dollars to provide you services you expect?


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