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Old 07-09-2004, 01:32 PM   #1
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is *ALL* publicity good publicity?

what do you think?
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:33 PM   #2
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:33 PM   #3
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:33 PM   #4
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:33 PM   #5
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Hell no.

The ends justify the means mentality, ain't happening.
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:34 PM   #7
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no, and anyone who thinks so is as dumb as the thought itself.

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Old 07-09-2004, 01:35 PM   #9
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all the talking banner publicity around here made me finally get off my ass and do something i've been thinking of for a while... shut down flash.

publicity = good for me and everyone else that did it..
publicity = bad for the people paying $2500 for the banners a lot less people are seeing now.
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:37 PM   #10
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Depends if you have a way setup to make money off your publicity. Then yes it does.

A good example is this domain. http://www.KerryEdwards.com.

It got in the news yesterday because the democrats want to buy the name and the guy said no to their offer. Some wealthy Republicans have told him they'll match any offer he gets just so Kerry and Edwards don't get it.

So the guy is putting it on eBay and thinks he'll be a millionaire from it. Which who knows, may happen if some rich dems get into a bidding worth with some rich republicans.

The guys is getting over 50,000 visitors a day on it already.

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Old 07-09-2004, 01:40 PM   #11
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i see growing demand for a audio controlling software, where sound level adjustable for different applications.
would you buy it?
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i see growing demand for a audio controlling software, where sound level adjustable for different applications.
would you buy it?
This is a board full of teenagers and hacker wannabes. Most of them would find it on a warez site before they spend their allowance on such things.

I like the idea though.
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:46 PM   #13
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You'd have to run the program on donations. ;)
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:46 PM   #14
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Yes... Until you lose control of the negative publicity and it begins to have a negative impact on your business. And since that can happen in the blink of an eye, unless you're very good at managing it, don't play with negative stuff.
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If their are families around, then no. Just out of plain respect.

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The movie Gigli got tons of press both good and bad when and before it came out. Still bombed.
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:49 PM   #17
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:51 PM   #18
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If their are families around, then no. Just out of plain respect.

BTW, someone needs to help me with sig!
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:51 PM   #19
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No it's not always.

But bad Publicity is still Publicity.

It's a Sets(SubSets) kinda thang.
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:57 PM   #20
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what do you think?

Hmm, have you ever heard the term "Bad Publicity"?

If so, then you've answered your question.
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Old 07-09-2004, 01:59 PM   #21
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Hmm, have you ever heard the term "Bad Publicity"?

If so, then you've answered your question.
i know the answer. i was looking for opinions.....
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Old 07-09-2004, 02:00 PM   #22
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no. PERIOD!!! shitty talking banners!
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I still assert that you asked the question wrong, just a matter of symantics
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Old 07-09-2004, 02:08 PM   #24
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I personally don't think so. It may put you in the public eye more, but does that mean more business or respect? No, it doesn't. Just my
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Definitely not.

You could have someone post a bad thread about your business on GFY for example (whether it's true or not), get alot of attention and make ALOT of sales based solely on that thread.

However, you'll never know the number of people you've lost that will NEVER do business with you. In most cases, I'd think it would be much greater than the business you're gonna generate.

The initial sales may be great, but the longterm backlash could be devastating.

There are alot more lurkers here than there are posters. Many, including myself use the search function before doing business with anyone. If a negative thread popsup, they'll find someone else to do business with.
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no. PERIOD!!! shitty talking banners!

this is what i mean.
obviously the banners did its purpose for you to remember who they are.......
either way you still seem to acknowledge them.
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Is that the banners purpose? So you remember it with loathing and hate because youre children or neighbors heard it?
lmao, think about it punker..
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Bad publicity It can be dangerous like a cobra snake.......... you just have to grab it by the head fast and lead it where you want .
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It depends. Negative publicity can get a lot of attention & if it's spun properly, can be turned into good publicity.

For example: The Naughty Allie banner has brought a ton of attention to her site. Love it or hate it, the drama has brought a hell of a lot more attention to her banner than anybody else who bought this month.

To combat the negative publicity (the folks who hate it), this could be handled by offering up a public apology & changing the banner. I bet a lot of folks would consider that a classy thing to do & would become Allie supporters.

Negative >>> Positive.
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some idiots just flamed us cause our marketing person email them to see if they wanted to promote our site. They said it was spam. lol

it turned into a nice siz thread and we just got shitloads of affilaites from it.

so ALMOST any publicity is good. Look at Paris Hilton.
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To combat the negative publicity (the folks who hate it), this could be handled by offering up a public apology & changing the banner. I bet a lot of folks would consider that a classy thing to do & would become Allie supporters.

Negative >>> Positive.
Everyone would realise she was just copying BoobieBucks.
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Remembering a banner doesnt do squat for you if it's negative.

One thing you can count is the number of people who joined.

One thing you cant count is the number who might have joined but wont because of it.


A well planned pissing match with full sigs in full bloom is a completely different thing.
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some idiots just flamed us cause our marketing person email them to see if they wanted to promote our site. They said it was spam. lol

it turned into a nice siz thread and we just got shitloads of affilaites from it.

so ALMOST any publicity is good. Look at Paris Hilton.
minus one...

In most cases no, but if you can turn bad into good publicity then yes.
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I will say it again NO....in order to get bad publicity to work for you, you have to know how to spin it and there is not a single person here with that ability.
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Also are you really wanting to deal with people you have to resort to fake threads, or bad publicity in order to bring them in?
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yup I have dropped programs cause of this.. Sometimes bad publicity helps get you seen and sometimes it is good but for the most part it's not a good thing
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Hey PB,

Having been in Marketing/Advertising and PR for a while I would say NO, without hesitation when it comes to a company, however people are somewhat different.

Bad publicity, when it comes to a company, even 1 time can have severe consequences and break a company, unless it can be spun in the right direction, which is sometimes is very hard to do.

Bad Publicity however for an individual in some odd way, "Can" sometimes boost their rep. Hence a rock star gets into a bar fight and gets thrown into jail... He is personified then as a "bad Boy" and it can boost their image on some level, or a Super Star Gets caught flashing... etc...

Another example is a movie... Faces of Death for example.. It got ? Bad? publicity due to being banned in like 46 countries and the nature of the film... Well when it came out on video/DVD it was a huge draw due to the controversial nature and "wrenched" publicity"

So it all depends on the situation...

Just my opinion...

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Not always right away, it takes time for the shock to wear off the public, but over time the person starts to reap the fame generated from being a jackass.
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Like most things it depends on how you use it. Generally negative publicity can be very harmful.
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Hey PB,

Having been in Marketing/Advertising and PR for a while I would say NO, without hesitation when it comes to a company, however people are somewhat different.

Bad publicity, when it comes to a company, even 1 time can have severe consequences and break a company, unless it can be spun in the right direction, which is sometimes is very hard to do.

Bad Publicity however for an individual in some odd way, "Can" sometimes boost their rep. Hence a rock star gets into a bar fight and gets thrown into jail... He is personified then as a "bad Boy" and it can boost their image on some level, or a Super Star Gets caught flashing... etc...

Another example is a movie... Faces of Death for example.. It got ? Bad? publicity due to being banned in like 46 countries and the nature of the film... Well when it came out on video/DVD it was a huge draw due to the controversial nature and "wrenched" publicity"

So it all depends on the situation...

Just my opinion...

Talk to you soon hun...and see you in FL

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Its kinda sad to see so many good things happen and they go over looked. No one seems to give a rats ass if it doesnt* include gossip or if its putting another company to shame. Its like how do we expect things to change when change includes the whole nation! Sadly it never will......


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