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|  07-06-2004, 05:50 PM | #1 | 
| Meow Meow!!! Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, California 
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				 |  Art or Graffiti ????  
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|  07-06-2004, 05:54 PM | #2 | 
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				 | self expression is art.  Going bombing late at night is just fun  | 
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|  07-06-2004, 05:57 PM | #3 | |
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 very kewl!!!! heres another  
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|  07-06-2004, 05:57 PM | #4 | 
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				 | Graffiti for the most part is art - not including "tags". BG 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:03 PM | #5 | 
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				 | art | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:04 PM | #6 | 
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				 | Being an old school writer ( started in 1980) I can say that its all art..... | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:04 PM | #7 | 
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				 | vandalism, not art. | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:05 PM | #8 | 
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				 | Heres some of my old stuff    | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:06 PM | #9 | 
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				 | art for sure. | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:07 PM | #10 | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:07 PM | #11 | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:07 PM | #12 | 
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				 | Those guys are really good artist! | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:07 PM | #13 | 
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				 | Writing is art, while tagging is vandalism. I used to write in HS and I can tell you that planning a nice piece is hard work, and pulling it off is an art form in itself. Hell...Writing is what gave me my scholarship to the UNLV art department.    | 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:09 PM | #14 | |
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 HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Mad kudos for your art that is some of the best stuff i have seen! Rawk on! 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:10 PM | #15 | |
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       its how I got in to graphics  | |
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|  07-06-2004, 06:10 PM | #16 | |
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 very kewl i see what ur implying! 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:11 PM | #17 | |
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 you know how hard it is to make a black man blush...  | |
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|  07-06-2004, 06:11 PM | #18 | |
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 kick ass peice babe! 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:12 PM | #19 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 06:14 PM | #20 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 06:16 PM | #21 | |
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 hahaha glad you dig them! im working on another batch had to start over sinced i moved to another state LOL  
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|  07-06-2004, 06:17 PM | #22 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 06:19 PM | #23 | |
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 hee hee the great thing is i can mail them LOL or even take them on a plane its a beautiful thing! will u be in florida? 
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|  07-06-2004, 06:20 PM | #24 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 06:25 PM | #25 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 06:58 PM | #26 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 07:07 PM | #27 | 
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				 | ART ! They fuckin' rock! 
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|  07-06-2004, 07:20 PM | #28 | 
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				 | work of art baby   | 
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|  07-06-2004, 07:25 PM | #29 | 
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				 | TITS, MSK, AWR All WAYS ROCKIN' 
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|  07-06-2004, 07:30 PM | #30 | 
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				 | Yup i think its art too!   
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|  07-06-2004, 07:39 PM | #31 | 
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				 | I really like what people have been doing with stencils lately.      | 
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|  07-06-2004, 07:42 PM | #32 | 
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				 | Both... Graffiti is Art | 
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|  07-06-2004, 07:43 PM | #33 | |
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 damn thats wicked kewl!  
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|  07-06-2004, 08:44 PM | #34 | 
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				 | It's art as long as it's not on my fucking wall. Seriously though. Some of these guys have incredible talent and they fucking waste it by vandalising other people's property. Get permission. Hell, some people would probably allow you to put up a piece of art like this on their wall. It'd be pretty cool.  And other people will even pay for it. Get permission, or get paid, or do it on your own walls, or you're a fucktard. 
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|  07-06-2004, 09:18 PM | #35 | 
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				 | It is art, but that doesnt mean its acceptable to practice it on other peoples walls.. It's like playing drums in someones frontyard. Music is art, but you cant do it everywhere. 
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|  07-06-2004, 09:20 PM | #36 | 
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				 | art!   | 
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|  07-06-2004, 09:20 PM | #37 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 09:27 PM | #38 | 
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				 | its art for sure. I always love when I drive by trains, to look at all of the graffiti on the sides and admire them. you see some of the coolest looking peices of art.  on the side of a triancar in houston on the hardy toll road, there was "9-11 BUSH KNEW" on the side. I thought it was cool. Love the artwork chronic avenger  
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|  07-06-2004, 11:45 PM | #39 | 
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				 | Growing up in Brooklyn in the 70's and 80's we had some of the most amazing gratti work you could imagine!! I am a HUGE fan of this art form!!!        
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|  07-06-2004, 11:50 PM | #40 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 11:52 PM | #41 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 11:55 PM | #42 | |
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|  07-06-2004, 11:56 PM | #43 | 
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				 | The Freddy one is art, the others suck.  
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|  07-06-2004, 11:57 PM | #44 | 
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				 |   she looks really familiar to me . . . don't know why, but I know her, or her mother | 
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|  07-07-2004, 12:02 AM | #45 | 
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				 | Now this is art.  
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|  07-07-2004, 12:02 AM | #46 | |
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|  07-07-2004, 12:03 AM | #47 | 
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				 | Graffiti | 
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|  07-07-2004, 12:09 AM | #48 | |
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|  07-07-2004, 12:11 AM | #49 | 
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				 | its mostly art, until other people come along tagging their names on it 
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|  07-07-2004, 12:11 AM | #50 | 
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				 | Those look like art to me. The ones I hate are when some dickhead just scribbles his name or 'tag' on something with marker and thinks he is cool because his shit is there but really he has no skill and it looks like shit. | 
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