Chokers traffic sucks according to the Blog - GoFuckYourself.com

SallySyracuse2003 · 07-06-2004, 05:43 PM

http://www.awm-blog.com/ - where can I get good traffic

AdPatron · 07-06-2004, 05:44 PM

Pretty much any blind traffic sucks.

polish_aristocrat · 07-06-2004, 05:47 PM

who's blog is that?

SallySyracuse2003 · 07-06-2004, 05:47 PM

CollegeJoe - where can one get good traffic?

Evil1 · 07-06-2004, 05:48 PM

Could it be possible that whoevers site sucked some serious ass and had shitty prod all around?

Mutt · 07-06-2004, 05:50 PM

sally syracuse is gary kremen from sex.com who hates choker.

4Pics · 07-06-2004, 05:52 PM

adwords.google.com

detoxed · 07-06-2004, 05:52 PM

After reading the front page, lol I wouldnt trust a word on that site.

NoCarrier · 07-06-2004, 05:53 PM

If the traffic sucks, why is he still in business? Not defending Choker, but don't u think his business would be short lived if it sucked? Unless there is an infinite amount of newbie suckers out there.

detoxed · 07-06-2004, 05:53 PM

#1 reason NOT to read this blog

"If you want to use a sponsor as a main sponsor where you earn 300$-500$+ a month you should do test sign ups additional to click tracking. "

07-06-2004, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
#1 reason NOT to read this blog

"If you want to use a sponsor as a main sponsor where you earn 300$-500$+ a month you should do test sign ups additional to click tracking. "

If it doesn't do that in the first week, it's time to move on.

Fabuleux · 07-06-2004, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SallySyracuse2003
http://www.awm-blog.com/ - where can I get good traffic

My sites did a lot better with Chokers traffic.

pussyluver · 07-06-2004, 05:58 PM

Waiting for choker to come along and respond. The evenings drama.

Mutt · 07-06-2004, 06:01 PM

sounds like he's an honest small webmaster just posting his experiences.

nice comments about PureCash 3.0 and he's right, PureCash is going great these days - especially Sweet Little Blonde.

Sunday Sponsor Stats Conclusion

First we come to Meatcash and the not really good stats, but last month I had ~4500 clicks and no conversions, so it actually got better.Maybe you ask yourself now why they often convert so badly.

There are two reasons for that.No trials and a kinda high monthly membership fee of 33.95$, but members who sign up for paysites which cost that much money normally stay for at least 3 months, because Meatcash's sites are quality and often updated.If you think you can convert them give them a try and click here.

Now we come to Purecash who launched their PureCash Version 3.0 at the end of last month and are doing quite good for me.I use a combination of "1$ no Console - pay per sign up" and "Free Trial with Console - pay per sign up" which both get you 20$ per sign up.Converts with everything because everybody likes free/1$ trials.If you want to give them a try click here.

More to come next weekend...

Head · 07-06-2004, 07:04 PM

www,adulttrafficsales.com

Sly_RJ · 07-06-2004, 07:08 PM

Sally what's her face works for Sex.com or something. I don't think Choker cares about this shit anymore, but 6-12 months ago this would have made for a great thread.

lacorporacione · 07-06-2004, 07:28 PM

I always found chokers traffic was good.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-06-2004, 07:57 PM

your never going to make money buying traffic like that. If the traffic was worth big bucks he wouldn't be selling it. Anyone who tells you they dont have enough time to "sell" their own customers , is either full of shit or very stupid ( meaning it wont last long )

I would still bet you can make more money from choker traffic than adwords (unless you have some big bucks to spend )

Think about it. Would anyone sell you a twenty dollar bill for ten dollars.

If i was sick of a bunch of crap change in my pocket though , i might give you $21 for your $20 bill.

Choker · 07-06-2004, 08:16 PM

Sally works for sex.com, in fact I am pretty sure it is Gary himself.

From this link you posted

Chickentraffic Bought Traffic Review
Last month I bought a few thousand hits from chickentraffic which is operated by Choker who is offering free scripts like Turbo Traffic Trader where he skims traffic from.

I used the traffic to feed a new general TGP and tracked all clicks with my own click stat script.

Here are the results:

Traffic Name Click Activity in % Current Price in $ My Rating
Free_tt_skim 35 7 poor activity
General traffic 80 7.50 good activity
Tgpskim_general_mix
80 4.25 (not avaible anymore) best price/activity ratio

I hardly see how this implies my traffic sucks. Sally/Gary whoever you are. I have withstood the test of time. Every day I sell over 1.5 million hits to free sites, not galleries, just free sites. If you want to know what buyers are saying about my traffic, simply look at this page http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web.../tabs2.php?tt=

and click on the rating of each niche. This is what the buyers are saying about my traffic. What other broker lets the buyers review the traffic they buy?

QuaWee · 07-06-2004, 08:47 PM

!!!BULL SHIT!!! Choker is traffic premium. I bought 3k worth of traffic and got 2 sales. nothin but bullshit. choker answers emails and board messages quickly. never had a problem with the guy

GTS Mark · 07-06-2004, 08:55 PM

I only send my customers to Choker. I simply don't trust anyone else.

DH

pussyluver · 07-06-2004, 09:10 PM

Chokers reponse was calmer than I though it would be.

Intersted in a response from Sally on the comment the you're from sex.com. 37 posts makes one stop and think.... So who are you. Not holding my breath on an answer.

mardigras · 07-06-2004, 09:27 PM

Maybe good idea for a sampler special for folks to test and report back on what traffic that sucks?

pornguy · 07-06-2004, 09:39 PM

Let me say a little something about Choker.

Any guy that will take a few hours away from a schedual like he has to meet two people for lunch and juat talk about the business in general, is a great guy.

I have never bought traffic from him, but after chatting with him, and learning a little about his set up, I am sure that it is quality.

Thanks Choker!

Snake Doctor · 07-06-2004, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
your never going to make money buying traffic like that. If the traffic was worth big bucks he wouldn't be selling it. Anyone who tells you they dont have enough time to "sell" their own customers , is either full of shit or very stupid ( meaning it wont last long )

I disagree. Generating traffic and being able to sell things to that traffic are two totally different things.

I for instance am very good at the latter but I suck at the former, so I just buy traffic from the people who are good at generating it. Its a much more profitable use of my time than trying to generate lots of my own traffic, since that's not my forte.

On the other hand look at a site like TheHun. He sells all the banner spots on the site plus the top 15 gallery spots. Can you imagine what kind of man power you'd need to build 15+ quality galleries everyday, each in a different niche, using different content, promoting a different program, and then trying to track the productivity and profitability of each page each day? It'd be a logistical nightmare, not to mention a risk.
Sure you might make more, but you might make less than you would just selling the spot for a flat rate. Same goes for the banner ads.

Plus, when your site is a "traffic pump" its hard to straddle the fence and try to do everything you can to get and keep bookmarkers on the one hand, while trying to make a buck off of them with the other hand. Its far easier to just focus on your strengths and let other people focus on theirs.

Choker · 07-06-2004, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuaWee
!!!BULL SHIT!!! Choker is traffic premium. I bought 3k worth of traffic and got 2 sales. nothin but bullshit. choker answers emails and board messages quickly. never had a problem with the guy

Well I have to admit I used to suck big time at returning emails, but nowadays I check email several times a day. I get at least 300 email spams a day, so it is not something I look forward to. LOL

SleazyDream · 07-06-2004, 10:02 PM

choker's traffic only sucks if you dont' know how to convert it - some do , some don't.

saying it sucks just labels you as one of the ones who don't have a clue as many people make money month in and month out with choker.

Choker · 07-06-2004, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I only send my customers to Choker. I simply don't trust anyone else.

DH

Same here my friend. What cracks me up is how so many people think only newbies buy traffic. Newbies are not even 1/5th of the traffic buying market.

Choker · 07-06-2004, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Sally what's her face works for Sex.com or something. I don't think Choker cares about this shit anymore, but 6-12 months ago this would have made for a great thread.

Hey man how are you? Long time no see. Are you going to Miami next month? And yeah I don't give a shit about Gary and his childish games anymore. LOL

Arty · 07-06-2004, 10:13 PM

Hey Choker,

A quick Question, don't you have hentai/toon traffic anymore?

Choker · 07-06-2004, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arty
Hey Choker,

A quick Question, don't you have hentai/toon traffic anymore?

Sorry man, not even 1 click of this.

quiet · 07-06-2004, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
I disagree. Generating traffic and being able to sell things to that traffic are two totally different things.

I for instance am very good at the latter but I suck at the former, so I just buy traffic from the people who are good at generating it. Its a much more profitable use of my time than trying to generate lots of my own traffic, since that's not my forte.

On the other hand look at a site like TheHun. He sells all the banner spots on the site plus the top 15 gallery spots. Can you imagine what kind of man power you'd need to build 15+ quality galleries everyday, each in a different niche, using different content, promoting a different program, and then trying to track the productivity and profitability of each page each day? It'd be a logistical nightmare, not to mention a risk.
Sure you might make more, but you might make less than you would just selling the spot for a flat rate. Same goes for the banner ads.

Plus, when your site is a "traffic pump" its hard to straddle the fence and try to do everything you can to get and keep bookmarkers on the one hand, while trying to make a buck off of them with the other hand. Its far easier to just focus on your strengths and let other people focus on theirs.

Arty · 07-06-2004, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
Sorry man, not even 1 click of this.

Thanks for the update

polish_aristocrat · 07-07-2004, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
Sorry man, not even 1 click of this.

what about 'paysite traffic' ?

jimmyf · 07-07-2004, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
If the traffic sucks, why is he still in business? Not defending Choker, but don't u think his business would be short lived if it sucked? Unless there is an infinite amount of newbie suckers out there.

what he said

KraZ · 07-07-2004, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
what about 'paysite traffic' ?

I think once you go to Choker's site you'll figure out why all the descriptions start with FREE (as opposed to paid I guess)

gxer · 07-07-2004, 07:28 AM

Choker's traffic worth every dollar invested
in it.

DTK · 07-07-2004, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pussyluver
Chokers reponse was calmer than I though it would be.

Semi-retirement has apparently mellowed him

Jon · 07-07-2004, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics
adwords.google.com

Basic_man · 07-07-2004, 08:35 AM

Drama thread, sig placement :D

EviLGuY · 07-07-2004, 08:36 AM

I've never felt ripped off or hitbotted when I bought Choker's traffic.. which is a rare thing indeed. It is what it is..

DTK · 07-07-2004, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
sally syracuse is gary kremen from sex.com who hates choker.

Probably doesn't even need to be said at this point but..... JEEZ, what a lame, transparent attempt at hurting Chokers biz. pathetic

KMR Stitch · 07-07-2004, 08:45 AM

This troll is an idiot.

Manowar · 07-07-2004, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
sally syracuse is gary kremen from sex.com who hates choker.

Wow, nice business practices

Reak · 07-07-2004, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
This troll is an idiot.

Matthew · 07-07-2004, 09:05 AM

hm now the site is updated and he explains his point of view.

Far-L · 07-07-2004, 10:00 AM

Choker: Spike and I have been meaning to call you about getting some traffic.

Anyone that has stood up and helped our Acacia fight without being forced too is good people in my book and I look forward to doing business with you.

Choker · 07-07-2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DTK
Semi-retirement has apparently mellowed him

Nah, I am just saving my energy for more worthy opponents than Sallywhatshisname. Retirement has not went too well. I can't sit around doing nothing. So I am quietly working on 2 new projects. These will be my biggest programs ever. I am putting all my money and resources on the table for these. It's either feast or famine time. Coming very soon...

Doctor Dre · 07-07-2004, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
#1 reason NOT to read this blog

"If you want to use a sponsor as a main sponsor where you earn 300$-500$+ a month you should do test sign ups additional to click tracking. "

Choker · 07-07-2004, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
what about 'paysite traffic' ?

Actually I do now sell the free_niches to paysites, as long as they have no consoles.

07-06-2004, 05:47 PM	#3
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	who's blog is that? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

07-06-2004, 05:48 PM	#5
Evil1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,893	Could it be possible that whoevers site sucked some serious ass and had shitty prod all around? __________________

07-06-2004, 05:50 PM	#6
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	sally syracuse is gary kremen from sex.com who hates choker. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

07-06-2004, 05:53 PM	#9
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	If the traffic sucks, why is he still in business? Not defending Choker, but don't u think his business would be short lived if it sucked? Unless there is an infinite amount of newbie suckers out there. __________________

07-06-2004, 06:01 PM	#14
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	sounds like he's an honest small webmaster just posting his experiences. nice comments about PureCash 3.0 and he's right, PureCash is going great these days - especially Sweet Little Blonde. Sunday Sponsor Stats Conclusion First we come to Meatcash and the not really good stats, but last month I had ~4500 clicks and no conversions, so it actually got better.Maybe you ask yourself now why they often convert so badly. There are two reasons for that.No trials and a kinda high monthly membership fee of 33.95$, but members who sign up for paysites which cost that much money normally stay for at least 3 months, because Meatcash's sites are quality and often updated.If you think you can convert them give them a try and click here. Now we come to Purecash who launched their PureCash Version 3.0 at the end of last month and are doing quite good for me.I use a combination of "1$ no Console - pay per sign up" and "Free Trial with Console - pay per sign up" which both get you 20$ per sign up.Converts with everything because everybody likes free/1$ trials.If you want to give them a try click here. More to come next weekend... __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

07-06-2004, 05:43 PM	#1
SallySyracuse2003 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 39	Chokers traffic sucks according to the Blog http://www.awm-blog.com/ - where can I get good traffic

07-06-2004, 05:44 PM	#2
AdPatron No commissions, no fees. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 17,706	Pretty much any blind traffic sucks.

07-06-2004, 05:52 PM	#7
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	adwords.google.com

07-06-2004, 05:52 PM	#8
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	After reading the front page, lol I wouldnt trust a word on that site.

07-06-2004, 05:58 PM	#13
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Waiting for choker to come along and respond. The evenings drama.

07-06-2004, 07:04 PM	#15
Head Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Starship Enterprise Posts: 8,278	www,adulttrafficsales.com __________________

07-06-2004, 07:08 PM	#16
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Sally what's her face works for Sex.com or something. I don't think Choker cares about this shit anymore, but 6-12 months ago this would have made for a great thread. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

07-06-2004, 07:28 PM	#17
lacorporacione Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 252	I always found chokers traffic was good. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

07-06-2004, 07:57 PM	#18
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	your never going to make money buying traffic like that. If the traffic was worth big bucks he wouldn't be selling it. Anyone who tells you they dont have enough time to "sell" their own customers , is either full of shit or very stupid ( meaning it wont last long ) I would still bet you can make more money from choker traffic than adwords (unless you have some big bucks to spend ) Think about it. Would anyone sell you a twenty dollar bill for ten dollars. If i was sick of a bunch of crap change in my pocket though , i might give you $21 for your $20 bill. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

07-06-2004, 08:16 PM	#19
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Sally works for sex.com, in fact I am pretty sure it is Gary himself. From this link you posted Chickentraffic Bought Traffic Review Last month I bought a few thousand hits from chickentraffic which is operated by Choker who is offering free scripts like Turbo Traffic Trader where he skims traffic from. I used the traffic to feed a new general TGP and tracked all clicks with my own click stat script. Here are the results: Traffic Name Click Activity in % Current Price in $ My Rating Free_tt_skim 35 7 poor activity General traffic 80 7.50 good activity Tgpskim_general_mix 80 4.25 (not avaible anymore) best price/activity ratio I hardly see how this implies my traffic sucks. Sally/Gary whoever you are. I have withstood the test of time. Every day I sell over 1.5 million hits to free sites, not galleries, just free sites. If you want to know what buyers are saying about my traffic, simply look at this page http://chickentraffic.com/cttsv2/web.../tabs2.php?tt= and click on the rating of each niche. This is what the buyers are saying about my traffic. What other broker lets the buyers review the traffic they buy? __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

07-06-2004, 08:47 PM	#20
QuaWee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: boogers Posts: 5,791	!!!BULL SHIT!!! Choker is traffic premium. I bought 3k worth of traffic and got 2 sales. nothin but bullshit. choker answers emails and board messages quickly. never had a problem with the guy Last edited by QuaWee; 07-06-2004 at 08:49 PM..

07-06-2004, 08:55 PM	#21
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	I only send my customers to Choker. I simply don't trust anyone else. DH

07-06-2004, 09:10 PM	#22
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Chokers reponse was calmer than I though it would be. Intersted in a response from Sally on the comment the you're from sex.com. 37 posts makes one stop and think.... So who are you. Not holding my breath on an answer.

07-06-2004, 09:27 PM	#23
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	Maybe good idea for a sampler special for folks to test and report back on what traffic that sucks? __________________ .

07-06-2004, 09:39 PM	#24
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Let me say a little something about Choker. Any guy that will take a few hours away from a schedual like he has to meet two people for lunch and juat talk about the business in general, is a great guy. I have never bought traffic from him, but after chatting with him, and learning a little about his set up, I am sure that it is quality. Thanks Choker! __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

07-06-2004, 10:02 PM	#27
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	choker's traffic only sucks if you dont' know how to convert it - some do , some don't. saying it sucks just labels you as one of the ones who don't have a clue as many people make money month in and month out with choker. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

07-06-2004, 10:13 PM	#30
Arty Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 880	Hey Choker, A quick Question, don't you have hentai/toon traffic anymore?

07-07-2004, 07:28 AM	#37
gxer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location Posts: 846	Choker's traffic worth every dollar invested in it.

07-07-2004, 08:35 AM	#40
Basic_man Programming King Pin Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 27,360	Drama thread, sig placement :D __________________ UUGallery Builder - automated photo/video gallery plugin for Wordpress! Stop looking! Checkout Naked Hosting, online since 1999 !

07-07-2004, 08:36 AM	#41
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	I've never felt ripped off or hitbotted when I bought Choker's traffic.. which is a rare thing indeed. It is what it is..

07-07-2004, 08:45 AM	#43
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	This troll is an idiot.

07-07-2004, 09:05 AM	#46
Matthew Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 194	hm now the site is updated and he explains his point of view.

07-07-2004, 10:00 AM	#47
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Choker: Spike and I have been meaning to call you about getting some traffic. Anyone that has stood up and helped our Acacia fight without being forced too is good people in my book and I look forward to doing business with you. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."