A thought for the day. Why can you slaughter cattle but you can't shoot a dog? - GoFuckYourself.com

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 12:45 PM

A thought for the day. Why can you slaughter cattle but you can't shoot a dog? Where does farming stop and animal cruelty begin?

polish_aristocrat · 07-05-2004, 12:46 PM

Dog = man's best friend...

at least people say so

Chris · 07-05-2004, 12:46 PM

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smack · 07-05-2004, 12:47 PM

what are you talking about? i have no qualms about shooting ANYTHING that moves.

Doctor Dre · 07-05-2004, 12:48 PM

Cauz a dog is cute

Monique Niccole · 07-05-2004, 12:48 PM

cows taste better and they don't look so cute when you dress them up in tiny sweaters and put leashes on them.

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 12:49 PM

If you eat the dog can you shoot it without getting arrested? Or does the government tell us what animals we can and can't eat?

Shoehorn! · 07-05-2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
A thought for the day. Why can you slaughter cattle but you can't shoot a dog? Where does farming stop and animal cruelty begin?

I am no animal rights activist by any means, but if we can kill animals we should be able to kill people too. There's as many people out there who should get the axe as there are animals.

foolio · 07-05-2004, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
If you eat the dog can you shoot it without getting arrested? Or does the government tell us what animals we can and can't eat?

I do not think the goverment does - but some of these animal freaks sure think they can.

Doctor Dre · 07-05-2004, 12:52 PM

Probably depends how you kill it

nofx · 07-05-2004, 12:54 PM

because dogs are not raised for slaughter

sid375 · 07-05-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Probably depends how you kill it

exactly , you cannot kill any animal whatsoever , only slaughterhouses can , and they need all sort off licences I am sure there is a doggiekill license out there

only a matter of obtaining one

hova · 07-05-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by nofx
because dogs are not raised for slaughter

My thoughts

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by nofx
because dogs are not raised for slaughter

What if you did raise them for slaughter?

TheJimmy · 07-05-2004, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
If you eat the dog can you shoot it without getting arrested? Or does the government tell us what animals we can and can't eat?

...because we live in a theocracy...don't let anyone convince you otherwise ;)

Evil1 · 07-05-2004, 01:01 PM

you cant shoot it but you can take it to a vet and have it put to sleep no problem at all.

Khun · 07-05-2004, 01:06 PM

You cant shoot a dog? You must not live in the south, we shoot everything that moves down here and mount it over the fireplace.

Turboface · 07-05-2004, 01:07 PM

It's now legal to hunt cattle.

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by Evil1
you cant shoot it but you can take it to a vet and have it put to sleep no problem at all.

How do they kill cows these days? Anyone know? Do they still club calves?

Doctor Dre · 07-05-2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by sid375
exactly , you cannot kill any animal whatsoever , only slaughterhouses can , and they need all sort off licences I am sure there is a doggiekill license out there only a matter of obtaining one

Vetenerians

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by Turboface
It's now legal to hunt cattle.

Vegetarian, Rick Latona told Global Associated News reporters, ?I?m deeply offended and appalled by abuse towards animals, however, this program seems to benefit the worthwhile cause of enriching life experiences for unfortunate people, and I suppose that shooting cows in a field is no worse than killing them in a slaughter house. I still won?t eat meat, but I think this is a good program.?

Come now. No one here would believe that I'm a vegitarian or that I would give a shit and be offended.

goBigtime · 07-05-2004, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by nofx
because dogs are not raised for slaughter

I take it you've never been to the animal shelter in January.

JSA Matt · 07-05-2004, 01:14 PM

The same reason killing a police K-9 is murder of an officer?

goBigtime · 07-05-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
I am no animal rights activist by any means, but if we can kill animals we should be able to kill people too.

Soylent Green is people.

goBigtime · 07-05-2004, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
How do they kill cows these days? Anyone know? Do they still club calves?

Hung on a hook & sickle to the throat?

Tom_PMs · 07-05-2004, 01:20 PM

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Soylent Green is people.

Q: "How does it taste?"

A: "It varies from person to person."

Thank you, thank you very much.

Dragonsxxx · 07-05-2004, 01:23 PM

who said i can't !!!

I worked as a slaughter for awhile... however killing cattle is to make food for humans, killing a dog doesn't bring meat on the table unless you live in China.

i do not have a problem killing any animal aslong as it suffers or is to be eaten.

with that being said, i have 12 cats simply because my cat got knocked up a few times and it was my own fault not having her fixed, so i kept all kittens instead of just cutting their throat. if there isn't a good reason for an animal to die it's animal abuse (sorry about my english im too tired to double check my wording)

Shoehorn! · 07-05-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
Q: "How does it taste?"

A: "It varies from person to person."

Thank you, thank you very much.

I've always been interested in Ed Gein.

Zebra · 07-05-2004, 01:28 PM

You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish.

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Dragonsxxx
who said i can't !!!

I worked as a slaughter for awhile... however killing cattle is to make food for humans, killing a dog doesn't bring meat on the table unless you live in China.

i do not have a problem killing any animal aslong as it suffers or is to be eaten.

with that being said, i have 12 cats simply because my cat got knocked up a few times and it was my own fault not having her fixed, so i kept all kittens instead of just cutting their throat. if there isn't a good reason for an animal to die it's animal abuse (sorry about my english im too tired to double check my wording)

Last year I read the journals of Lewis and Clarke. They ate lots of dogs. And, they mentioned over and over in their book on how much better their dogs tasted than the bison and horses.

Shoehorn! · 07-05-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Zebra
You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish.

Scootermuze · 07-05-2004, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by sid375
exactly , you cannot kill any animal whatsoever , only slaughterhouses can , and they need all sort off licences I am sure there is a doggiekill license out there only a matter of obtaining one

Hmm.. Ya might wanna talk to a hog farmer sometime.. They have hog killin's all the time..

Chickens aren't taken to a slaughterhouse .. I've seen a number of old farmers' wives twist a head off of a chicken quicklike and supper is on the way..

bad_girl · 07-05-2004, 01:43 PM

Cuz cows do the body good.

BG

Dragonsxxx · 07-05-2004, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Last year I read the journals of Lewis and Clarke. They ate lots of dogs. And, they mentioned over and over in their book on how much better their dogs tasted than the bison and horses.

I could think of a few dogs that would taste well, but in the world that we live in it isn't accepted as meat.
and i must say aslong as there is enough cattle im not interested in trying anything new ;) however i do not judge peoble who wants something different to eat.

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 01:48 PM

Ok, so here is the plan.

We need to raise poodles and super cute kittens for the purpose of slaughter. Then, we kill them in a humane way and proceed to eat them. No one will have a problem with this?

Tam · 07-05-2004, 01:50 PM

I can't kill anything but bugs and snakes....... YIKES!!

I don't kill what I eat, I just buy it already dead and cook it. BUT let me think about it for more than a couple of minutes and I can't even eat it. I was raised on a farm and couldn't even watch them kill or clean any of the farm animals, chickens, pigs, cows.... none of it.

I CAN clean a fish and eat it, but that's MY limit on this whole kill it and eat it thing.

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Dragonsxxx
I could think of a few dogs that would taste well, but in the world that we live in it isn't accepted as meat.
and i must say aslong as there is enough cattle im not interested in trying anything new ;) however i do not judge peoble who wants something different to eat.

I'm curious. Which dogs do you think would taste well?

Shoehorn! · 07-05-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Ok, so here is the plan.

We need to raise poodles and super cute kittens for the purpose of slaughter. Then, we kill them in a humane way and proceed to eat them. No one will have a problem with this?

HAHAHA. "Super cute" kittens.

WebTitan · 07-05-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Ok, so here is the plan.

We need to raise poodles and super cute kittens for the purpose of slaughter. Then, we kill them in a humane way and proceed to eat them. No one will have a problem with this?

i have no issue with it. if that is what floats your boat...

CamChicks · 07-05-2004, 01:57 PM

When the food chain is optional, it should be based on a loose intelligence hierarchy. It would look something like this:

-humans
-chimps
-dolphins
-dogs
-pigs
-cows
-chickens
-fish
-lobsters, shrimp, insects.
-fruit and vegetables

obviously I skipped a few species.. but the general idea is you draw a line somewhere on that list and only eat the animals below it. Of course, the actual nutritional value of the animal is important too. You can feed a lot more people by taking 1 cow life than taking 1 dog life. And if you're starving, then you can't afford to make moral choices.

Rick Latona · 07-05-2004, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by CamChicks
When the food chain is optional, it should be based on a loose intelligence hierarchy. It would look something like this:

-humans
-chimps
-dolphins
-dogs
-pigs
-cows
-chickens
-fish
-lobsters, shrimp, insects.
-fruit and vegetables

obviously I skipped a few species.. but the general idea is you draw a line somewhere on that list and only eat the animals below it. Of course, the actual nutritional value of the animal is important too. You can feed a lot more people by taking 1 cow life than taking 1 dog life. And if you're starving, then you can't afford to make moral choices.

I've always heard that pigs are smarter than dogs. We eat pigs but not dogs. Why would intelligence be a criteria for murder?

Dragonsxxx · 07-05-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm curious. Which dogs do you think would taste well?

Saint bernhards (sp) just because of all the meat though
Huskies and Malamuts (but "wild" living in greenland, alaska, sibiria etc etc.)

I think wild animals do taste better than some mass produced animals on hormones, when my wife and i shop for meat we allways go to a farmer where we live as we know the animal had a good life and lots of space and not just is to be considered as meat.

07-05-2004, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm curious. Which dogs do you think would taste well?

German shepard. In asian countries some are considered delicatessen though.Go figure. Kangaroo are supposedly good, too. Oh and alligator tails are pretty damn good. Tastes like chicken.

Tom_PMs · 07-05-2004, 02:09 PM

It should be based on the distance between the raw energy, and the meat.

That is to say, a cow eats grass and that is converted energy from the sun, so eating the cow is closer to the energy than eating the dog.
The dog may have eaten a mouse or other small critter, so it's second or third rate meat. If it's raised on "dog food", then it's eaten cow udders and lung and other garbage grade cow meats and ash and filler..

All in all I'd *prefer* to raise my own vegetables organically and get meats from a farmer/butcher who also raised them without drugs.

Mr. Jim · 07-05-2004, 02:11 PM

mmmmmmm

Manatee nuggets

Strife · 07-05-2004, 02:13 PM

Well..Why can you slaughter cattle but you can't shoot a human?

CamChicks · 07-05-2004, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
I've always heard that pigs are smarter than dogs. We eat pigs but not dogs. Why would intelligence be a criteria for murder?

Pigs are smarter than most people think. Almost smart enough to make me feel bad about eating them. But they are not smarter than dogs. (however a lot of PETA-type groups like to suggest that)

Dogs have been bred for intelligence for thousands of years. We (humans) did that to them, so that (at least partially) makes us responsible for their higher conciousness. They can understand another species (human) language and excercise good judgement under difficult stressful situations. They care enough about their adopted familys to alert them to / guard them from danger. That makes me respect them enough not to eat them.

Also, there's just not much meat on dogs. Versus a pig whch averages 400+lbs. That seperates them on the food chain in a practical sense.

baddog · 07-05-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
A thought for the day. Why can you slaughter cattle but you can't shoot a dog? Where does farming stop and animal cruelty begin?

ummm, what makes you think you would be arrested for cruelty to an animal if you shot a dog?

baddog · 07-05-2004, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
If you eat the dog can you shoot it without getting arrested? Or does the government tell us what animals we can and can't eat?

again, I think you have some huge misconceptions about the law. there is no law against shooting dogs that I have ever read.

do you have some reliance you can direct us to?

CamChicks · 07-05-2004, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Why would intelligence be a criteria for murder?

Intelligence is the reason killing a human is considered worse than killing a less intelligent animal. If intelligence is ignored as part of the criteria then humans are on the menu

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Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	Ok, so here is the plan. We need to raise poodles and super cute kittens for the purpose of slaughter. Then, we kill them in a humane way and proceed to eat them. No one will have a problem with this? __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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