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iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 12:14 PM

Put down the front page (or learn to use it properly) and stop relying so much on j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t folks. With this day and age of toolbars taking over shit and sites with active x controls taking advantage of insecure IE it's time to stop being lazy and only designing for IE.

This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.

People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.

Raven · 07-03-2004, 12:16 PM

childiots -- how do you pronounce that...phoentically?

I'm not responding to your thread 'cause you're preaching to the choir here...but, I'll damned well support what you're saying....amen.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raven
childiots -- how do you pronounce that...phoentically?

I'm not responding to your thread 'cause you're preaching to the choir here...but, I'll damned well support what you're saying....amen.

chill + (Idiots-I) = childiots

JSA Matt · 07-03-2004, 12:18 PM

Use a better browser, sounds like a YP not an MP

fuzebox · 07-03-2004, 12:19 PM

What's funny is Mozilla/Firefox is 100% w3c compliant, while IE is not. Design your pages so the HTML is actually to an acceptable spec, and they'll work on any browser.

Raven · 07-03-2004, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
chill + (Idiots-I) = childiots

That's pretty cool. Can I use that? I got so excited, I misspelled phonetically.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
Use a better browser, sounds like a YP not an MP

I am using a wicked browser. Opera. The problem is not limited to opera though, some sponsors ONLY load in IE and that is IT.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raven
That's pretty cool. Can I use that? I got so excited, I misspelled phonetically.

go for it.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzebox
What's funny is Mozilla/Firefox is 100% w3c compliant, while IE is not. Design your pages so the HTML is actually to an acceptable spec, and they'll work on any browser.

amen

JSA Matt · 07-03-2004, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
I am using a wicked browser. Opera. The problem is not limited to opera though, some sponsors ONLY load in IE and that is IT.

What does IE support that Opera does not? Perhaps Frontpage extensions, but who the hell uses that half-assed crap anyways?

I tried Opera a while ago and would have switched to it from IE if it wasn't for the stupid mouse features. I tried to disable them in the options as 'mouse gestures' but it didn't disable them all. I have a serious right-click problem from playing FPS games and it would throw me around to different pages everytime I click too fast.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
What does IE support that Opera does not? Perhaps Frontpage extensions, but who the hell uses that half-assed crap anyways?

I tried Opera a while ago and would have switched to it from IE if it wasn't for the stupid mouse features. I tried to disable them in the options as 'mouse gestures' but it didn't disable them all. I have a serious right-click problem from playing FPS games and it would throw me around to different pages everytime I click too fast.

I know what you mean about the mouse thing. Can be anoying at times as I am right click happy as well from playin way too much UT. IE doesn't support anythign different, it just reads code differently and people tend to code so IE is 100% happy and the "hell with the other browsers"

CDSmith · 07-03-2004, 01:01 PM

I design with Textpad, then view it in IE and Nutscrape. If it passes that cross-browser test of both of those browsers it should do okay with the others too.

I've never had one complaint ever.

digglah · 07-03-2004, 02:38 PM

I use Mozilla's Firefox .. and RARELY find a page that isn't compatible.

michaelw · 07-03-2004, 02:42 PM

boo fucking hoo

go get MyIE2, and youll never go back

EviLGuY · 07-03-2004, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
Put down the front page (or learn to use it properly) and stop relying so much on j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t folks. With this day and age of toolbars taking over shit and sites with active x controls taking advantage of insecure IE it's time to stop being lazy and only designing for IE.

This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.

People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.

Here here.. I dont need floaty dhtml menus or whatever else sponsors seem to throw into their members areas to be clever and jazz it up.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by michaelw
boo fucking hoo

go get MyIE2, and youll never go back

if I wanted childish remarks I would hit GG&J

Sly_RJ · 07-03-2004, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
I design with Textpad, then view it in IE and Nutscrape. If it passes that cross-browser test of both of those browsers it should do okay with the others too.

I've never had one complaint ever.

I stopped testing my shit years ago. It works everytime without fail. I'm goooood.

Tempest · 07-03-2004, 02:58 PM

Peaching the the choir. I'll tell you one thing. Silvercash doesn't get anywhere near as much traffic from me as they could simply because I can't get into the full admin without IE6. And I don't have IE6 on my main computer. Whoever thought that would be "cool" should be fired. If those are their site designers, why would I think they would convert well? Anyone who designs sites for 1024x768+, IE6 and broadband users needs to find a new line of work.

Clovis · 07-03-2004, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I stopped testing my shit years ago. It works everytime without fail. I'm goooood.

I like the attitude. Very confident.

fuelcell · 07-03-2004, 03:07 PM

Why is every thread turning into Mozilla/Firefox Rocks! Hey . . . MyIE rocks!

SetTheWorldonFire · 07-03-2004, 03:09 PM

beacuse anyone buying a membership is on IE.

all others are just webmasters, programmers, designers and people trying to put microsoft to shame. good luck

jimmyf · 07-03-2004, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx

This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.

People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.

titmowse · 07-03-2004, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
beacuse anyone buying a membership is on IE.

all others are just webmasters, programmers, designers and people trying to put microsoft to shame. good luck

microsoft deserves shame. goddamned omnipresent, fucking exploitable bloatware.

SykkBoy · 07-03-2004, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by michaelw
boo fucking hoo

go get MyIE2, and youll never go back

where's juicy's money?
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=321546

besides, MyIE2 sucks dog dick

SykkBoy · 07-03-2004, 03:29 PM

I hate this too, have to open IE just to log into to check my damn stats...

I've said if before and I'll say it again, if you don't feel like getting off your ass to include the other browsers, email me and I'll give you the code so you can redirect all of that traffic to me...I'll take it...

Tempest · 07-03-2004, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
beacuse anyone buying a membership is on IE.

all others are just webmasters, programmers, designers and people trying to put microsoft to shame. good luck

You're joking right.. According to my stats to pages that are going to be almost all surfers, IE has dropped to < 88% over the last year. And since WMs are going to IE alternatives more and more the WM sites like sponsors etc. should be making sure they're compatible.

nastyking · 07-03-2004, 03:33 PM

are you retarded?

it's the browser that has to understand the code. FireFox/Mozilla are the one who can't process it. So bash them!!

nastyking · 07-03-2004, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
I hate this too, have to open IE just to log into to check my damn stats...

So, you indirectly admit that IE is better because it can render the site while your praised FireFox chokes on it? Retardo!

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clovis
I like the attitude. Very confident.

his code is always spot on. To me it's a mess html wise cause I have a certain 'layout' I like using but his code never fails

He's kinda anal about it being done proper actualy.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
are you retarded?

it's the browser that has to understand the code. FireFox/Mozilla are the one who can't process it. So bash them!!

You dont understand. People who code for IE are using non-standard code half the time. It's not even w3c compliant.

It's the same as blaming english teachers in an english country for not knowing how to read chinese.

SykkBoy · 07-03-2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
So, you indirectly admit that IE is better because it can render the site while your praised FireFox chokes on it? Retardo!

First of all fuckface, I use Netscape, not Firefox
I have to open IE because some people are too fucking lazy to code their damn pages properly. fucking cricket crotch

nastyking · 07-03-2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
You dont understand. People who code for IE are using non-standard code half the time. It's not even w3c compliant.

It's the same as blaming english teachers in an english country for not knowing how to read chinese.

A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.

so your telling me a good family sedan car should be able to use proprietary monster truck parts?

Jesus. Where did this troll come from?

SykkBoy · 07-03-2004, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.

hahah, and you're calling ME the reatrdo?
what a douche

nastyking · 07-03-2004, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
so your telling me a good family sedan car should be able to use proprietary monster truck parts?

Jesus. Where did this troll come from?

Cmon, stick to your FireFox/Mozilla crap if you want to view W3C compliant pages only.

Tempest · 07-03-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
Cmon, stick to your FireFox/Mozilla crap if you want to view W3C compliant pages only.

I want to maximize the sales potential of every damn surfer regardless of which browser THEY choose to use. That's why it's important to me that all the sites are compatible.

Just another dipshit that knows nothing about everything and only posts to start an fake argument.

jimmyf · 07-03-2004, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
First of all fuckface, I use Netscape, not Firefox
I have to open IE because some people are too fucking lazy to code their damn pages properly. fucking cricket crotch

agree

It's IE that's fucked not the other browsers, and that's a fact, has been from the day they came out with it.

I remember when I was getting shit because I used nutscape,

everone telling me IE, IE. Will I never did use Outlook, god am I glad.

Use IE 2 check my page, and have links on my pages for surfers 2 download Mozilla

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
Cmon, stick to your FireFox/Mozilla crap if you want to view W3C compliant pages only.

w3c IS a standard, meaning, all sites are suposed to comply. if they dont comply, that means they are NOT coded properly.

I am not too happy that certain sponsors don't bother to code wc3 compliant pages and forcing me to get vulnerable by using IE to browse their program pages. it's to the point that I refuse to even load up a certain sponsor when I do my site builds. I find somethign else to fit the niche or find content and banenrs and link codes I might have already downlaoded earlier from them.

If you don't like the fact that a lot of webmasters are getting sick of non compliant sites then why don;t you stop reading threads about it and shove your cum covered keyboard up your ass SURFER.

SykkBoy · 07-03-2004, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
agree

It's IE that's fucked not the other browsers, and that's a fact, has been from the day they came out with it.

I remember when I was getting shit because I used nutscape,

everone telling me IE, IE. Will I never did use Outlook, god am I glad.

Use IE 2 check my page, and have links on my pages for surfers 2 download Mozilla

same here
I admit, Netscape 6 was a festering pile of shit, but I love Netscape 7. No toolbars, no spyware, no worms using Netscape Mail, no browserjacking, really good integrated spam filter, tabbed browsing, decent popup blocker, no crashing...I love Netscape.

digifan · 07-03-2004, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
if I wanted childish remarks I would hit GG&J

digifan · 07-03-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.

Bullshit... a bad designer can't build a site/page which looks good in all browsers.. lazy asses.

SomeCreep · 07-03-2004, 06:20 PM

Because not all webmasters are professionals at what they do.

Robertf · 07-03-2004, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
Put down the front page (or learn to use it properly) and stop relying so much on j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t folks. With this day and age of toolbars taking over shit and sites with active x controls taking advantage of insecure IE it's time to stop being lazy and only designing for IE.

This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.

People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.

Why bother?

If someone only want IE users ... just go somewhere else

extreme · 07-03-2004, 09:23 PM

word.

Kimmykim · 07-03-2004, 09:26 PM

I hate to interrupt here, but um, if I have credit card holding surfers who are 95% IE because it comes loaded on their computers, and I have geekys and techys and freeloaders that aren't, there's really no choice. If I were a site owner these days I'd be designing for the majority of SURFERS, not resellers, to spend their money with me.

I guess things like Flash and wmv files are definitely out with this crowd.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Robertf
Why bother?

If someone only want IE users ... just go somewhere else

can you reword that so it makes fucking sense? I dont want IE users, when did I say I wanted IE users for anything?

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 09:37 PM

You seem to forget,. it's us webmaster who send you your credit card holding surfers. if we can't naviagte your sites with OUR TOOLS then why should we even bother then?

So people who don't use IE are geeks, techs and freeloaders? Nice way to pigeon hole us. What about the other 17 percent of surfers who have credit cards (83 percent still use IE)? are their credit cards not good enough? The fundamental rule of building is, make it easy for EVERYONE to read and see. If you can't do that or are too lazy to do so, then you really should shy away from webmaster jobs.

Talk to any mainstream site builders and they will agree that pages should be multi browser compatible or as much as possible. What makes adult any different? Is there a different set of rules and standards just becasue we pedle adult materials? What ever happened to proffesionalism and pride in the work we do each day?

I could care less if my pages only get seen by IE users regardless (if that were the case). I build it RIGHT. I don't run around with half assed work done just because the majority won't notice. Talk about cutting corners in a BUSINESS.

iwantchixx · 07-03-2004, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iwantchixx
can you reword that so it makes fucking sense? I dont want IE users, when did I say I wanted IE users for anything?

n/m, i got it now. Sometimes it takes time to sink things in and read what people mean behind their quick posts

pudcat · 07-04-2004, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
I hate to interrupt here, but um, if I have credit card holding surfers who are 95% IE because it comes loaded on their computers, and I have geekys and techys and freeloaders that aren't, there's really no choice. If I were a site owner these days I'd be designing for the majority of SURFERS, not resellers, to spend their money with me.

I guess things like Flash and wmv files are definitely out with this crowd.

And what if suddenly the ratios change to be 50/50? 50% of your traffic will be unable to browse your site... Instead of putting in a tiny little bit of effort to be standards compliant when developing the site you need to go through each and every one of your websites and make them standards compliant.

If you want to gamble that way then that's your stupid decision to make and the clever people in the industry will walk all over you if it happens.

There are signs that Firefox is gaining significant popularity, it'll always first start with the geeks, then it'll filter down to the advanced users... once it gets to there then the everyday user will be right behind.

pudcat · 07-04-2004, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nastyking
A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.

How can you say it's HTML if it doesn't comply to the HTML standard?

If it's not standards compliant then it's not HTML. No Microsoft does not control what is and what isn't HTML.

07-03-2004, 12:14 PM	#1
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	why can't WEBMASTERS make sites MULTI-BROWSER compatible? fuck. Put down the front page (or learn to use it properly) and stop relying so much on j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t folks. With this day and age of toolbars taking over shit and sites with active x controls taking advantage of insecure IE it's time to stop being lazy and only designing for IE. This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all. People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.

07-03-2004, 12:16 PM	#2
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07-03-2004, 01:01 PM	#12
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07-03-2004, 12:18 PM	#4
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07-03-2004, 12:19 PM	#5
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07-03-2004, 02:58 PM	#18
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Peaching the the choir. I'll tell you one thing. Silvercash doesn't get anywhere near as much traffic from me as they could simply because I can't get into the full admin without IE6. And I don't have IE6 on my main computer. Whoever thought that would be "cool" should be fired. If those are their site designers, why would I think they would convert well? Anyone who designs sites for 1024x768+, IE6 and broadband users needs to find a new line of work.

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07-03-2004, 09:26 PM	#45
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	I hate to interrupt here, but um, if I have credit card holding surfers who are 95% IE because it comes loaded on their computers, and I have geekys and techys and freeloaders that aren't, there's really no choice. If I were a site owner these days I'd be designing for the majority of SURFERS, not resellers, to spend their money with me. I guess things like Flash and wmv files are definitely out with this crowd.

07-03-2004, 09:37 PM	#47
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	You seem to forget,. it's us webmaster who send you your credit card holding surfers. if we can't naviagte your sites with OUR TOOLS then why should we even bother then? So people who don't use IE are geeks, techs and freeloaders? Nice way to pigeon hole us. What about the other 17 percent of surfers who have credit cards (83 percent still use IE)? are their credit cards not good enough? The fundamental rule of building is, make it easy for EVERYONE to read and see. If you can't do that or are too lazy to do so, then you really should shy away from webmaster jobs. Talk to any mainstream site builders and they will agree that pages should be multi browser compatible or as much as possible. What makes adult any different? Is there a different set of rules and standards just becasue we pedle adult materials? What ever happened to proffesionalism and pride in the work we do each day? I could care less if my pages only get seen by IE users regardless (if that were the case). I build it RIGHT. I don't run around with half assed work done just because the majority won't notice. Talk about cutting corners in a BUSINESS.