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  • iwantchixx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2002
    • 12860

    #1

    why can't WEBMASTERS make sites MULTI-BROWSER compatible? fuck.

    Put down the front page (or learn to use it properly) and stop relying so much on j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t folks. With this day and age of toolbars taking over shit and sites with active x controls taking advantage of insecure IE it's time to stop being lazy and only designing for IE.

    This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.

    People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.
  • Raven
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 6874

    #2
    childiots -- how do you pronounce that...phoentically?

    I'm not responding to your thread 'cause you're preaching to the choir here...but, I'll damned well support what you're saying....amen.
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    • iwantchixx
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 12860

      #3
      Originally posted by Raven
      childiots -- how do you pronounce that...phoentically?

      I'm not responding to your thread 'cause you're preaching to the choir here...but, I'll damned well support what you're saying....amen.
      chill + (Idiots-I) = childiots

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      • JSA Matt
        So Fucking Banned
        • Aug 2003
        • 5464

        #4
        Use a better browser, sounds like a YP not an MP

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        • fuzebox
          making it rain
          • Oct 2003
          • 22353

          #5
          What's funny is Mozilla/Firefox is 100% w3c compliant, while IE is not. Design your pages so the HTML is actually to an acceptable spec, and they'll work on any browser.

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          • Raven
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2001
            • 6874

            #6
            Originally posted by iwantchixx
            chill + (Idiots-I) = childiots
            That's pretty cool. Can I use that? I got so excited, I misspelled phonetically.
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            • iwantchixx
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Oct 2002
              • 12860

              #7
              Originally posted by JSA Matt
              Use a better browser, sounds like a YP not an MP
              I am using a wicked browser. Opera. The problem is not limited to opera though, some sponsors ONLY load in IE and that is IT.

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              • iwantchixx
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 12860

                #8
                Originally posted by Raven
                That's pretty cool. Can I use that? I got so excited, I misspelled phonetically.

                go for it.

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                • iwantchixx
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 12860

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                  What's funny is Mozilla/Firefox is 100% w3c compliant, while IE is not. Design your pages so the HTML is actually to an acceptable spec, and they'll work on any browser.

                  amen

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                  • JSA Matt
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 5464

                    #10
                    Originally posted by iwantchixx
                    I am using a wicked browser. Opera. The problem is not limited to opera though, some sponsors ONLY load in IE and that is IT.
                    What does IE support that Opera does not? Perhaps Frontpage extensions, but who the hell uses that half-assed crap anyways?

                    I tried Opera a while ago and would have switched to it from IE if it wasn't for the stupid mouse features. I tried to disable them in the options as 'mouse gestures' but it didn't disable them all. I have a serious right-click problem from playing FPS games and it would throw me around to different pages everytime I click too fast.

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                    • iwantchixx
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 12860

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JSA Matt
                      What does IE support that Opera does not? Perhaps Frontpage extensions, but who the hell uses that half-assed crap anyways?

                      I tried Opera a while ago and would have switched to it from IE if it wasn't for the stupid mouse features. I tried to disable them in the options as 'mouse gestures' but it didn't disable them all. I have a serious right-click problem from playing FPS games and it would throw me around to different pages everytime I click too fast.
                      I know what you mean about the mouse thing. Can be anoying at times as I am right click happy as well from playin way too much UT. IE doesn't support anythign different, it just reads code differently and people tend to code so IE is 100% happy and the "hell with the other browsers"

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                      • CDSmith
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                        • May 2001
                        • 51460

                        #12
                        I design with Textpad, then view it in IE and Nutscrape. If it passes that cross-browser test of both of those browsers it should do okay with the others too.

                        I've never had one complaint ever.
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                        • digglah
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                          • Apr 2004
                          • 22

                          #13
                          I use Mozilla's Firefox .. and RARELY find a page that isn't compatible.

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                          • michaelw
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                            • May 2002
                            • 1342

                            #14
                            boo fucking hoo

                            go get MyIE2, and youll never go back
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                            • EviLGuY
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 12745

                              #15
                              Originally posted by iwantchixx
                              Put down the front page (or learn to use it properly) and stop relying so much on j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t folks. With this day and age of toolbars taking over shit and sites with active x controls taking advantage of insecure IE it's time to stop being lazy and only designing for IE.

                              This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.

                              People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.
                              Here here.. I dont need floaty dhtml menus or whatever else sponsors seem to throw into their members areas to be clever and jazz it up.

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                              • iwantchixx
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 12860

                                #16
                                Originally posted by michaelw
                                boo fucking hoo

                                go get MyIE2, and youll never go back

                                if I wanted childish remarks I would hit GG&J

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                                • Sly_RJ
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                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 17042

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CDSmith
                                  I design with Textpad, then view it in IE and Nutscrape. If it passes that cross-browser test of both of those browsers it should do okay with the others too.

                                  I've never had one complaint ever.
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                                  • Tempest
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                                    • May 2004
                                    • 10217

                                    #18
                                    Peaching the the choir. I'll tell you one thing. Silvercash doesn't get anywhere near as much traffic from me as they could simply because I can't get into the full admin without IE6. And I don't have IE6 on my main computer. Whoever thought that would be "cool" should be fired. If those are their site designers, why would I think they would convert well? Anyone who designs sites for 1024x768+, IE6 and broadband users needs to find a new line of work.

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                                    • Clovis
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 412

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                      I stopped testing my shit years ago. It works everytime without fail. I'm goooood.

                                      I like the attitude. Very confident.
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                                      • fuelcell
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2003
                                        • 1525

                                        #20
                                        Why is every thread turning into Mozilla/Firefox Rocks! Hey . . . MyIE rocks!
                                        Beat it. Nothing to see here.

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                                        • SetTheWorldonFire
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 7444

                                          #21
                                          beacuse anyone buying a membership is on IE.

                                          all others are just webmasters, programmers, designers and people trying to put microsoft to shame. good luck
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                                          • jimmyf
                                            OU812
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 12651

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by iwantchixx

                                            This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.

                                            People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.

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                                            • titmowse
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 5320

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
                                              beacuse anyone buying a membership is on IE.

                                              all others are just webmasters, programmers, designers and people trying to put microsoft to shame. good luck
                                              microsoft deserves shame. goddamned omnipresent, fucking exploitable bloatware.
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                                              • SykkBoy2
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                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 19969

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by michaelw
                                                boo fucking hoo

                                                go get MyIE2, and youll never go back
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                                                • SykkBoy2
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                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 19969

                                                  #25
                                                  I hate this too, have to open IE just to log into to check my damn stats...


                                                  I've said if before and I'll say it again, if you don't feel like getting off your ass to include the other browsers, email me and I'll give you the code so you can redirect all of that traffic to me...I'll take it...
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                                                  • Tempest
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • May 2004
                                                    • 10217

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
                                                    beacuse anyone buying a membership is on IE.

                                                    all others are just webmasters, programmers, designers and people trying to put microsoft to shame. good luck
                                                    You're joking right.. According to my stats to pages that are going to be almost all surfers, IE has dropped to < 88% over the last year. And since WMs are going to IE alternatives more and more the WM sites like sponsors etc. should be making sure they're compatible.

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                                                    • nastyking
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 2174

                                                      #27
                                                      are you retarded?

                                                      it's the browser that has to understand the code. FireFox/Mozilla are the one who can't process it. So bash them!!

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                                                      • nastyking
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 2174

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                        I hate this too, have to open IE just to log into to check my damn stats...

                                                        So, you indirectly admit that IE is better because it can render the site while your praised FireFox chokes on it? Retardo!

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                                                        • iwantchixx
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 12860

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Clovis
                                                          I like the attitude. Very confident.

                                                          his code is always spot on. To me it's a mess html wise cause I have a certain 'layout' I like using but his code never fails He's kinda anal about it being done proper actualy.

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                                                          • iwantchixx
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 12860

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by nastyking
                                                            are you retarded?

                                                            it's the browser that has to understand the code. FireFox/Mozilla are the one who can't process it. So bash them!!

                                                            You dont understand. People who code for IE are using non-standard code half the time. It's not even w3c compliant.


                                                            It's the same as blaming english teachers in an english country for not knowing how to read chinese.

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                                                            • SykkBoy2
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                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                              • 19969

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by nastyking
                                                              So, you indirectly admit that IE is better because it can render the site while your praised FireFox chokes on it? Retardo!
                                                              First of all fuckface, I use Netscape, not Firefox
                                                              I have to open IE because some people are too fucking lazy to code their damn pages properly. fucking cricket crotch
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                                                              • nastyking
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 2174

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                You dont understand. People who code for IE are using non-standard code half the time. It's not even w3c compliant.


                                                                It's the same as blaming english teachers in an english country for not knowing how to read chinese.
                                                                A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.

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                                                                • iwantchixx
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 12860

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by nastyking
                                                                  A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.

                                                                  so your telling me a good family sedan car should be able to use proprietary monster truck parts?

                                                                  Jesus. Where did this troll come from?

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                                                                  • SykkBoy2
                                                                    Jesus loves bacon
                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                    • 19969

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by nastyking
                                                                    A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.
                                                                    hahah, and you're calling ME the reatrdo?
                                                                    what a douche
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                                                                    • nastyking
                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 2174

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                      so your telling me a good family sedan car should be able to use proprietary monster truck parts?

                                                                      Jesus. Where did this troll come from?
                                                                      Cmon, stick to your FireFox/Mozilla crap if you want to view W3C compliant pages only.

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                                                                      • Tempest
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                        • 10217

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by nastyking
                                                                        Cmon, stick to your FireFox/Mozilla crap if you want to view W3C compliant pages only.
                                                                        I want to maximize the sales potential of every damn surfer regardless of which browser THEY choose to use. That's why it's important to me that all the sites are compatible.

                                                                        Just another dipshit that knows nothing about everything and only posts to start an fake argument.

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                                                                        • jimmyf
                                                                          OU812
                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                          • 12651

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by SykkBoy2
                                                                          First of all fuckface, I use Netscape, not Firefox
                                                                          I have to open IE because some people are too fucking lazy to code their damn pages properly. fucking cricket crotch
                                                                          agree


                                                                          It's IE that's fucked not the other browsers, and that's a fact, has been from the day they came out with it.

                                                                          I remember when I was getting shit because I used nutscape,

                                                                          everone telling me IE, IE. Will I never did use Outlook, god am I glad.

                                                                          Use IE 2 check my page, and have links on my pages for surfers 2 download Mozilla
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                                                                          • iwantchixx
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 12860

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by nastyking
                                                                            Cmon, stick to your FireFox/Mozilla crap if you want to view W3C compliant pages only.

                                                                            w3c IS a standard, meaning, all sites are suposed to comply. if they dont comply, that means they are NOT coded properly.

                                                                            I am not too happy that certain sponsors don't bother to code wc3 compliant pages and forcing me to get vulnerable by using IE to browse their program pages. it's to the point that I refuse to even load up a certain sponsor when I do my site builds. I find somethign else to fit the niche or find content and banenrs and link codes I might have already downlaoded earlier from them.

                                                                            If you don't like the fact that a lot of webmasters are getting sick of non compliant sites then why don;t you stop reading threads about it and shove your cum covered keyboard up your ass SURFER.

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                                                                            • SykkBoy2
                                                                              Jesus loves bacon
                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                              • 19969

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                                              agree


                                                                              It's IE that's fucked not the other browsers, and that's a fact, has been from the day they came out with it.

                                                                              I remember when I was getting shit because I used nutscape,

                                                                              everone telling me IE, IE. Will I never did use Outlook, god am I glad.

                                                                              Use IE 2 check my page, and have links on my pages for surfers 2 download Mozilla
                                                                              same here
                                                                              I admit, Netscape 6 was a festering pile of shit, but I love Netscape 7. No toolbars, no spyware, no worms using Netscape Mail, no browserjacking, really good integrated spam filter, tabbed browsing, decent popup blocker, no crashing...I love Netscape.
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                                                                              • digifan
                                                                                The Profiler
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 14618

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                                if I wanted childish remarks I would hit GG&J
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                                                                                • digifan
                                                                                  The Profiler
                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                  • 14618

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by nastyking
                                                                                  A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.
                                                                                  Bullshit... a bad designer can't build a site/page which looks good in all browsers.. lazy asses.
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                                                                                  • SomeCreep
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                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 26118

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Because not all webmasters are professionals at what they do.

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                                                                                    • Robertf
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                      • 392

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                                      Put down the front page (or learn to use it properly) and stop relying so much on j.a.v.a.s.c.r.i.p.t folks. With this day and age of toolbars taking over shit and sites with active x controls taking advantage of insecure IE it's time to stop being lazy and only designing for IE.

                                                                                      This drives me nuts having to load internet exploiter just to log into some sponsors because menus don't work or even fail to load. Sometimes a few sponsor even produce blank pages or the inability to login at all.

                                                                                      People are shying away from IE and for good reason. For the love of fuck, redo your godamn webmaster programs to accomodate those who don't use IE.
                                                                                      Why bother?

                                                                                      If someone only want IE users ... just go somewhere else
                                                                                      ....

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                                                                                      • extreme
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 2120

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        word.

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                                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 16015

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I hate to interrupt here, but um, if I have credit card holding surfers who are 95% IE because it comes loaded on their computers, and I have geekys and techys and freeloaders that aren't, there's really no choice. If I were a site owner these days I'd be designing for the majority of SURFERS, not resellers, to spend their money with me.

                                                                                          I guess things like Flash and wmv files are definitely out with this crowd.

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                                                                                          • iwantchixx
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 12860

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Robertf
                                                                                            Why bother?

                                                                                            If someone only want IE users ... just go somewhere else

                                                                                            can you reword that so it makes fucking sense? I dont want IE users, when did I say I wanted IE users for anything?

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                                                                                            • iwantchixx
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 12860

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              You seem to forget,. it's us webmaster who send you your credit card holding surfers. if we can't naviagte your sites with OUR TOOLS then why should we even bother then?

                                                                                              So people who don't use IE are geeks, techs and freeloaders? Nice way to pigeon hole us. What about the other 17 percent of surfers who have credit cards (83 percent still use IE)? are their credit cards not good enough? The fundamental rule of building is, make it easy for EVERYONE to read and see. If you can't do that or are too lazy to do so, then you really should shy away from webmaster jobs.

                                                                                              Talk to any mainstream site builders and they will agree that pages should be multi browser compatible or as much as possible. What makes adult any different? Is there a different set of rules and standards just becasue we pedle adult materials? What ever happened to proffesionalism and pride in the work we do each day?

                                                                                              I could care less if my pages only get seen by IE users regardless (if that were the case). I build it RIGHT. I don't run around with half assed work done just because the majority won't notice. Talk about cutting corners in a BUSINESS.

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                                                                                              • iwantchixx
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 12860

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                                                can you reword that so it makes fucking sense? I dont want IE users, when did I say I wanted IE users for anything?

                                                                                                n/m, i got it now. Sometimes it takes time to sink things in and read what people mean behind their quick posts

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                                                                                                • pudcat
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                  • 1169

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                                                                  I hate to interrupt here, but um, if I have credit card holding surfers who are 95% IE because it comes loaded on their computers, and I have geekys and techys and freeloaders that aren't, there's really no choice. If I were a site owner these days I'd be designing for the majority of SURFERS, not resellers, to spend their money with me.

                                                                                                  I guess things like Flash and wmv files are definitely out with this crowd.
                                                                                                  And what if suddenly the ratios change to be 50/50? 50% of your traffic will be unable to browse your site... Instead of putting in a tiny little bit of effort to be standards compliant when developing the site you need to go through each and every one of your websites and make them standards compliant.

                                                                                                  If you want to gamble that way then that's your stupid decision to make and the clever people in the industry will walk all over you if it happens.

                                                                                                  There are signs that Firefox is gaining significant popularity, it'll always first start with the geeks, then it'll filter down to the advanced users... once it gets to there then the everyday user will be right behind.
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                                                                                                  • pudcat
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 1169

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by nastyking
                                                                                                    A good browser understands non-standard HTML. You can't change the people, but you can change the browser.
                                                                                                    How can you say it's HTML if it doesn't comply to the HTML standard?

                                                                                                    If it's not standards compliant then it's not HTML. No Microsoft does not control what is and what isn't HTML.
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