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Old 06-30-2004, 01:44 PM   #1
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More bad news for Acacia

A new assault on the alleged acacia patents was launched today by a dedicated public interest group, and many attorneys working for free.

Public interest groups can tie a company up in knots, for years, costing the company millions to defend themselves.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation says it will formally petition the US Patent office to re-examine Acacia Technologies' digital media transmission patent.

"These patent owners have been threatening people that just can't defend themselves," said Jason Schultz, staff attorney at the EFF.

"They're trying to claim ownership over some fundamental part of software of the Internet that people use every day, and they're threatening small companies or individuals that can't afford lawyers."


Link to Patent Busting Project
http://www.eff.org/patent/

Link To Other Consumer Group Fighting Bad Patents
http://www.pubpat.org/


Link To Full Story
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,64038,00.html

It seems we did a good job and put Acacia at the top of this list, well done all who voted.

Someone go spread the news around, I'm off to bed.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:46 PM   #2
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i'm proud to say

i voted

P.S it's #1 on importance

The 10 patents, in order of importance to the EFF, are:

1. Acacia Technologies' digital media transmission patent, which the company defines as covering "the transmission and receipt of digital content via the Internet, cable, satellite and other means." The EFF is worried that Acacia, which has already sued several large communications companies, is unfairly targeting small audio- and video-streaming websites.

2. Clear Channel's Instant Live patent, which covers technology used to produce instant recordings of live concerts. The media giant recently bought the patent and is now going after artists who choose to give fans CDs of their shows.

3. Acceris Communication's voice over IP technology patent. Schultz said Acceris is targeting smaller VOIP players. "They're sending (the) patents to investors," said Schultz, "trying to intimidate the investors."

4. Sheldon Goldberg's patents covering online gaming and real-time ladder rankings. Goldberg's attorney has sent a series of cease-and-desist letters to small gaming websites.

5. Ideaflood's personalized subdomains patent. Schultz said the EFF is afraid Ideaflood may try to go after LiveJournal members, as well as others using subdomain addresses.

6. NeoMedia Technologies' patent that claims to control methods for accessing computers based on identification codes, such as bar codes. Already, NeoMedia has sued three developing companies for infringement. "Allowing them to control all look-up functions over a network," said Schultz, "is extremely dangerous."

7. Test Central's Internet test-making technology patent. The EFF is afraid Test Central will use its patent to scare off distance-learning organizations. Indeed, the company has already contacted several institutions, including some universities.

8. Nintendo's video-game emulator patent. The entertainment powerhouse has patented the technology for emulating its old games, something Schultz said used to be allowable under the fair-use doctrine. "A bunch of small game companies are writing these emulators, and they're really no threat to Nintendo," said Schultz. "But Nintendo is being a big bully."

9. Firepond's patent covering automatic message-interpretation and routing systems. This patent, said Schultz, would effectively control the technology that allows consumers to call companies and have their calls routed based on a spoken command.

10. Seer Systems' patent covering the generation, distribution, storing and performing of musical work files. The company claims control over a method of compiling music files as single files for distribution over the Internet, the EFF said, and is targeting small developers of technology for creating music and sound.
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i just feel sooooo bad for acacia, they're going to end up having to get real jobs and earn money.. thats no way to live.
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This is great news! One more step closer to shutting those idiots down.
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Old 06-30-2004, 06:41 PM   #18
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nice find.

i'll sign with acacia.

right after CNN and Microsoft signs with them.

if the patent is valid Bill Gates will buy out acacia and incorporate the "DMT" process into operating systems software.

the idea that you need to become 1% partners with a bunch of bottom feeder lawyers to stay in business will never play.

never.
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i just feel sooooo bad for acacia, they're going to end up having to get real jobs and earn money.. thats no way to live.
I thought they would after the V chip

They will just find something else
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Doesn't look good for ACACIA, but we must wait till the final result.
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nice it's about time someone stood up to these fucks besides the Adult companies.
Exactly, the owner of this board has shown us how to take them on, well done.
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nice find.

i'll sign with acacia.

right after CNN and Microsoft signs with them.

if the patent is valid Bill Gates will buy out acacia and incorporate the "DMT" process into operating systems software.

the idea that you need to become 1% partners with a bunch of bottom feeder lawyers to stay in business will never play.

never.
Bravo.

I could not agree more.
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Right ON ........but lets not celebrate prematurely
Common sense from the maturer section of the club.

This is still a fight. Remember Acacia are still earning money from these companies some who could of fought but took the easy way out.

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Worry not Paul. Those of us with more than half a brain haven't forgotten the sellouts.


Not by a long shot.
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Those fighting the good fight should sell T-shirts with that slogan on it.


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Worry not Paul. Those of us with more than half a brain haven't forgotten the sellouts.


Not by a long shot.
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you 2 faced clown.. you make me sick.. hows the snuff flick biz going?
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Good idea, anyone want to organise it for Internext?

I just had a very wicked idea.

Acacia are presently earning money from the licensees and spending it in court fighting an expensive and apparently losing battle to keep the patent valid.

If they lose in court the llicense is invalid, as I understand it.

What happens if they pull out of the court battle with ne decision, do the licensees have to keep paying or what. They signed up on the license that they thought the patent was valid.

Sucks to be a licensee.
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you 2 faced clown.. you make me sick.. hows the snuff flick biz going?
Trey glad you're around,

Want to answer the question I just asked?

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What happens if Acacia pull out of the court battle with no decision, do the licensees have to keep paying or what. They signed up on the license that they thought the patent was valid?
Please feel free to answer.
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Want to answer the question I just asked?

Please feel free to answer.
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I'm sure it does. Ask Trey about that I'm sure he has some idea.
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I'm sure it does. Ask Trey about that I'm sure he has some idea.
I guess he has no balls to comment on this?
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I'm sure it does. Ask Trey about that I'm sure he has some idea.
For some reason he has gone quiet, not like him at all.
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For some reason he has gone quiet, not like him at all.
Give him time, he has obligations to meet, he must take it up the ass from Acacia regularly now.

He'll limp back in here shortly I'm sure.
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Probably has a straw up his nose and a latina midget giving him head
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Nope Thought I should delete that post..heh heh...bastard deserves what he gets though
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Saw this posted elsewhere, good point.

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Not a lawyer but would imagine that in the contracts they have licensees sign there is wording to the effect that licensee agree patent is valid and they (licensee) are using it on their site(s). Most likely it even goes on to say that should patent be invalidated, licensee still is required to pay fees independent of that ruling.

Now whether that portion of contract would hold up in court or not (or if it is also a breech to even challenge it after it's ruled invalid) is matter of opinion; but as these are some of the same cats that milked the on-screen tv menu and to lesser extent v-chip 'patents', IMO they wouldn't willingly play catch and release for fish they already have on stringer once judge takes their poles and tackle away...
Sucks to be a licensee.
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Nope Thought I should delete that post..heh heh...bastard deserves what he gets though
Bah, delete nothing.

Funny how I didn't even mention his program nor did I specifically mention any program in any of my posts here, yet he out of all those sellouts felt the need to jump in here instantly and cock off like a schoolboy.


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Funny how I didn't even mention his program nor did I specifically mention any program in any of my posts here, yet he out of all those sellouts felt the need to jump in here instantly and cock off like a schoolboy.
Yes out of all the sign ups he was the one who boasted about it the most.

Some hung their heads, some were simply forced into it and some seemed proud of it.

Sucks to be a licensee.
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Sucks to be a licensee.
Only thing that sucks is knowingly missing out on a great money making opportunity. We've all seen this coming and all knew that bigger porn companies will settle, but not settle before buying a truckload of ACTG shares.

I can't believe how blind people are, they seem to know it all but can't find one tree when standing in the middle of the bloody forest.

Who gives a fuck if ACTG loses or wins, you could have covered your bases a long time ago if you would have notice the opportunity. Keep fighting those windmills.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:11 PM   #45
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Only thing that sucks is knowingly missing out on a great money making opportunity. We've all seen this coming and all knew that bigger porn companies will settle, but not settle before buying a truckload of ACTG shares.

I can't believe how blind people are, they seem to know it all but can't find one tree when standing in the middle of the bloody forest.

Who gives a fuck if ACTG loses or wins, you could have covered your bases a long time ago if you would have notice the opportunity. Keep fighting those windmills.
Blind?.....you are the one who doesn't see the bigger picture
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:15 PM   #46
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Newbchowski needs to get his head out of his ass. Somebody get the jaws of life.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:17 PM   #47
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Blind?.....you are the one who doesn't see the bigger picture
How much is their license fee and what's the current value of a $250.000 investment based on the aug03 stock price?

I am here to make money, you keep your eyes open for the bigger picture.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:22 PM   #48
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How much is their license fee and what's the current value of a $250.000 investment based on the aug03 stock price?

I am here to make money, you keep your eyes open for the bigger picture.
Yes let's explore the future shall we? Acacia wins, followed by other companies who by the way ARE waiting in the wings with other bogus patents in hand. They impose their own brand of extortion on our industry, to the point that all of our sponsors are paying 30, 40, maby over 50% of their profits out to these vultures combined.

Even if your sponsors don't go out of business, do you really think it won't have some trickle-down effect and end up biting you in the ass?

Do you?


So much for your theory. Go educate yourself, off you go.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:23 PM   #49
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How much is their license fee
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I am here to make money, you keep your eyes open for the bigger picture.
So am I,why give it to some company who hires lawyers that would just shut you down cause you run an TGP/MGP sites?.
So am I ...why would you give your money to a company that just hires lawyers to just would rather shut you down because you run TGP/MGP sites?
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Well done to all that voted (myself included).
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