Drop down menus. hahahahahahahahahaha vs. Flash - GoFuckYourself.com

NickPapageorgio · 06-26-2004, 02:39 PM

I am all for flash integration on the internet but I hesitate in using it for drop down menus for the simple fact that many people just REFUSE to install the plugin. I realize that people also disable jscript in their browser but they don't have to do any additional installation to get the jscript ones to work. I have had mainstream clients very intensely stress to me to NOT include ANY flash in their site. Menus or otherwise. Then some really want alot of it. So which is it still with surfers? Flash or Jscript?

KRL · 06-26-2004, 02:48 PM

Based on posts I've seen here its probably close to 50-50.

I like both, but flash does look way cooler.

NickPapageorgio · 06-26-2004, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Based on posts I've seen here its probably close to 50-50.

I like both, but flash does look way cooler.

It's an interesting subject really. I guess the only way to go is to make 2 different ones and load them dynamically based on the users settings. Know of any percentage stats online anywhere one way or the other?

I think with flash's ability to use xml and other external files, it will be the way to go from now on. Plus like you said....it's way cooler lol.

TheWildcard · 06-26-2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Based on posts I've seen here its probably close to 50-50.

I like both, but flash does look way cooler.

Java(script) can look really cool too.

KidCock · 06-26-2004, 02:55 PM

Go with Flash.

We just conducted this research of online stats for 2004, and the results were the following:

Flash: 96% of surfers can view Flash with a growing number every new browser version.

hahahahahahahahahaha: 90-95% of surfers support it or haven't disabled it. Of this number, about 85% of those who disable it are webmasters, techies. Not your average surfer.

The best solution is to detect and then redirect to the appropriate version, however in the case of just choosing one we say go with Flash.

untitled · 06-26-2004, 03:09 PM

a shitload of people have flash, seems like only the uptight anti-ad people disable it, the average user wouldn't know how to or wouldn't consider disabling it due to all the cool content they wouldn't be able to access - one reason i don't disable it.

i sent some google traffic to a gallery with a flash movie embedded into the page, the file was 500Kb and when i checked the stats on the gallery almost everybody downloaded the file consistent with the amount of uniques the page got, which means the flash plugin is active and working in there browser, not to mention i got conversions at 1:200. its great for interactive ads and video since you can incorporate it directly in the page without the user needing to open up winamp and windows media player to play it.

TheWildcard · 06-26-2004, 03:11 PM

You can also make people choose ofcourse... lol

Reak · 06-26-2004, 03:14 PM

I got no clue mate..

Fabuleux · 06-26-2004, 03:23 PM

Yesterday I removed the javascpt on a TGP, I used it to generate the page with documentwrte to save bandwidth. Traffic is increased by 20% since then. I would go for Flash.

tyler86ed · 06-26-2004, 03:28 PM

Flash

View Poll Results: Which is better to use for menus? Flash or Jscript?
Flash Rules Fo Sho...	4	44.44%
Jscript is still the way to go...	3	33.33%
I don't think it matters, you lose surfers with one or the other.	2	22.22%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

06-26-2004, 02:39 PM	#1
NickPapageorgio Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC Posts: 8,323	Drop down menus. hahahahahahahahahaha vs. Flash I am all for flash integration on the internet but I hesitate in using it for drop down menus for the simple fact that many people just REFUSE to install the plugin. I realize that people also disable jscript in their browser but they don't have to do any additional installation to get the jscript ones to work. I have had mainstream clients very intensely stress to me to NOT include ANY flash in their site. Menus or otherwise. Then some really want alot of it. So which is it still with surfers? Flash or Jscript? __________________

06-26-2004, 02:48 PM	#2
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Based on posts I've seen here its probably close to 50-50. I like both, but flash does look way cooler. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

06-26-2004, 03:09 PM	#6
untitled Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 352	a shitload of people have flash, seems like only the uptight anti-ad people disable it, the average user wouldn't know how to or wouldn't consider disabling it due to all the cool content they wouldn't be able to access - one reason i don't disable it. i sent some google traffic to a gallery with a flash movie embedded into the page, the file was 500Kb and when i checked the stats on the gallery almost everybody downloaded the file consistent with the amount of uniques the page got, which means the flash plugin is active and working in there browser, not to mention i got conversions at 1:200. its great for interactive ads and video since you can incorporate it directly in the page without the user needing to open up winamp and windows media player to play it. __________________ Suicide isn't so bad, give it a chance...

06-26-2004, 03:23 PM	#9
Fabuleux Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,543	Yesterday I removed the javascpt on a TGP, I used it to generate the page with documentwrte to save bandwidth. Traffic is increased by 20% since then. I would go for Flash. __________________

06-26-2004, 02:55 PM	#5
KidCock So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Pedro, Costa Rica Posts: 788	Go with Flash. We just conducted this research of online stats for 2004, and the results were the following: Flash: 96% of surfers can view Flash with a growing number every new browser version. hahahahahahahahahaha: 90-95% of surfers support it or haven't disabled it. Of this number, about 85% of those who disable it are webmasters, techies. Not your average surfer. The best solution is to detect and then redirect to the appropriate version, however in the case of just choosing one we say go with Flash.

06-26-2004, 03:11 PM	#7
TheWildcard So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,759	You can also make people choose ofcourse... lol

06-26-2004, 03:14 PM	#8
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	I got no clue mate..

06-26-2004, 03:28 PM	#10
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