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Old 06-26-2004, 10:48 AM   #1
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I busted Bush!

"The coalition against Saddam has fallen apart or it's unraveling, let's put it that way. The sanctions are being violated. We don't know whether he's developing weapons of mass destruction. He'd better not be or there's going to be a consequence, should I be the president. "
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Old 06-26-2004, 12:48 PM   #4
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Didn't you support him before?

I thought Colin = the king = 12 clicks ( at least when it comes to political views )

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What Bush says and what Bush does are two completely different things.
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Didn't you support him before?

I thought Colin = the king = 12 clicks ( at least when it comes to political views )

I am not a conservative...I am not a member of the Republican Party now and have never been. I am not a fan of President Bush. I did not vote for him and I will not be voting for him.
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Didn't you support him before?

I thought Colin = the king = 12 clicks ( at least when it comes to political views )

Sorry bud, but I don't think you can compare those people.

12clicks is your typical redneck Fox news republican, doesn't really understand politics or have any arguments but likes to make fun of liberals and repeat the garbage he heard on Rush.

My opinion of Colin is that he's a right leaning independent who, while I often disagree with him, can make a good point based on a little more than just right wing rhetoric like 12dicks.

Pathfinder, well he's just a lunatic Bush apologist who's always messed up on booze and painkillers. Shell shocked from falling off a jeep while training for the reserves or some shit. I put him on ignore a while ago. Anyone who fakes their own death on a message board needs years of therapy at the university level.
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Sorry bud, but I don't think you can compare those people.

12clicks is your typical redneck Fox news republican, doesn't really understand politics or have any arguments but likes to make fun of liberals and repeat the garbage he heard on Rush.

My opinion of Colin is that he's a right leaning independent who, while I often disagree with him, can make a good point based on a little more than just right wing rhetoric like 12dicks.

Pathfinder, well he's just a lunatic Bush apologist who's always messed up on booze and painkillers. Shell shocked from falling off a jeep while training for the reserves or some shit. I put him on ignore a while ago. Anyone who fakes their own death on a message board needs years of therapy at the university level.
PF is dead for close to 2 years now...but if you insist on calling me PF I will take it as a compliment as he was a great man...a mans man...mentor and substitute father. Lunatic? I am not the one that hears voices...Richy boy...telling me that I am brilliant...have three degrees and own three of the largest casinos on the net...it is you.
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Bush apologist

is this you're catchphrase of the week?

you (well trained sheep) use it in every fucking thread like you think it's gonna hurt someones feelings.

Would that'd make you a Complete Fucking Moron Apologist?
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is this you're catchphrase of the week?

you (well trained sheep) use it in every fucking thread like you think it's gonna hurt someones feelings.

Would that'd make you a Complete Fucking Moron Apologist?
No, that's the best way to describe a person who looks for any way they can disagree with facts to defend someone. I've never heard anyone besides myself use it, I don't think it's that particularly clever but it describes you sheep to a tee.

The war was never about 9/11.
The war was never about WMD.
The war was never about liberating the people.
It doesn't matter that Bush in connected to the Bin Laden family.
It doesn't matter that Bush ignored warning that Bin Laden was about to attack the US.
It doesn't matter that Bush sat in a classroom dazed for 7 minutes while his country was under attack.
The bad economy is Clinton's fault.
The lost jobs are Clinton's fault.
9/11 was Clinton's fault.
Clinton would have invaded Iraq on fabricated evidence too.

How else should I describe you? You're nothing more than Bush apologists, if the name bothers you so much then you're going to have to pull your head from your ass and start thinking for yourself.
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Or wait, your new rhetoric is that you invaded Iraq because they were in violation of a UN resolution, right? That's this weeks excuse from the apologists?

In that case, you may want to stop arming the country violating more UN resolutions than any other country on the planet.

http://www.middleeastnews.com/unresolutionslist.html
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Old 06-26-2004, 02:27 PM   #16
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Voted for him in 2000, and will do so again this year. Hopefully if he gets 5% of the popular vote, he'll get govt funding for the next elections. Then you'll see some change as the 2 party era will be over.

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"The coalition against Saddam has fallen apart or it's unraveling, let's put it that way. The sanctions are being violated. We don't know whether he's developing weapons of mass destruction. He'd better not be or there's going to be a consequence, should I be the president. "
- Oct. 11, 2000
Ok, I'm one of the most vocal people AGAINST Bush, and I firmly believe that stuff was made up left and right and this and that... however...

Even I have to admit, that in Oct 11, 2000... he wouldn't have access to information that he would later have as President. Therefore, he actually would not know if Saddam has WMD's at that point, but could know later.

I'm not saying Saddam ever did, or that Bush ever did have this imaginary "proof" that later disappeared.

BUT... this isn't a case of him being busted. He truly would have no information on the subject in 2000.
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Hey no fair, Colin.
You took that quote after I did in that other thread about bush beating people in debates. lmao!

I call cheating on you

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Didn't you support him before?

I thought Colin = the king = 12 clicks ( at least when it comes to political views )

I was thinking the same thing lol

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Oh nevermind, Colin. You posted it first. Sorry.

I call cheating on me!
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The war was never about 9/11.
Iraq... no.
Afghanistan, yes.

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Not completely.
I find it amazing how you people can all of the sudden dismiss the whole WMD aspect after the Clinton administration tried to push that very same apple down our throats for 8 years.

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No, that was the convenient and sell-able outcome.

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Considering the Bin Laden family has disowned Usama, you can't fault them. Every family has a bad seed... Roger Clinton for example, or if you will George W Bush : )

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It doesn't matter that this was in preparation while Clinton still had a couple years left in his term? What did he do again? I mean aside from passing up THREE chances to wipe the fucker out.

By the way, what did he do to stop the first WTC bombing?

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You're right, getting up and running out the room in a panic would have been a much better idea.

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No, and the good economy wasn't a result of him neither.

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I blame NAFTA.

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He sure didn't do anything to prevent it.
By the way, what did he do to stop the first WTC bombing?

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No, he was to busy being unfaithful to his wife while on the job, pardoning criminals, taking money he shouldn't have, pounding his fist pointing his finger and lying to the entire country, redefining words, getting expensive haircuts, lobbing missiles into empty tents, among other things.


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How else should I describe you? You're nothing more than Bush apologists, if the name bothers you so much then you're going to have to pull your head from your ass and start thinking for yourself.
Back to the childishness, ok......

I fucked your mother in the ass, and she had you.

Think about that.

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So truth hurts... do you like the fact that your tax dollars are paying for a president who spent 42% of his 1st 8 months in office on vacation?

This man is being paid... what 400k a year from our tax dollars and he spends most of his time on vacation...

How may days do you get a year?
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Voted for him in 2000, and will do so again this year. Hopefully if he gets 5% of the popular vote, he'll get govt funding for the next elections. Then you'll see some change as the 2 party era will be over.

A vote for nader is not a wasted vote if you really want change but cant stomach any of the current politicans.

Dont vote for the lessor of many evils , vote for real change in the future.

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I agree 100% with the idea, I'm glad we have a 3 party system up here and with our greens and bloc Quebecois gaining steam, soon enough it could be 5. That's great, and I'd love to see the US get out of the domination by two parties controlled by the same corporate interests.

BUT

Is this the election to do it? What you have to ask yourself is, can you stomach 4 more years of Bush? What kind of state is your country going to be in down the road? Let Kerry turn the country around like Clinton did, and then push hard for Nader in 2008 when Kerry has a cake walk against Bob Dole jr.
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NBDesign, the kicker about all his vacation time is that during all the "high profile" 9/11 commision testimonies, we heard OVER and OVER and OVER again how they had ONLY been in office for 230 days (or whatever the exact number).

Gotta love the spin..
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So truth hurts... do you like the fact that your tax dollars are paying for a president who spent 42% of his 1st 8 months in office on vacation?

This man is being paid... what 400k a year from our tax dollars and he spends most of his time on vacation...

How may days do you get a year?
First, I think up to and including Bush, Presidents are grossly underpaid, so I don't care how much vacation he takes.


Second, as many days as I want.
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NBDesign, the kicker about all his vacation time is that during all the "high profile" 9/11 commision testimonies, we heard OVER and OVER and OVER again how they had ONLY been in office for 230 days (or whatever the exact number).

Gotta love the spin..
Not sure I am completely following you.
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hahahahahaha, that was awesome. I just named the first brainless right wing arguments I could think of and the truth hurts gave me perfect examples of all of them.

Priceless.
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First, I think up to and including Bush, Presidents are grossly underpaid, so I don't care how much vacation he takes.


Second, as many days as I want.
underpaid? please. look at all the perks they get... and on taxpayers $$$. Overpaid IMO.
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Not sure I am completely following you.
Bush kept using the excuse that they couldn't do anything about 9/11 because he was online in office for 230 days. Turns out he spent something like 100 of those days on vacation.
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Yeah thats right, Rich. I'm just looking over dr. rice 9/11 testimony now, lol. It was actually 233 days incidently.. she mentions 233 days 5 different times..

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Bush kept using the excuse that they couldn't do anything about 9/11 because he was online in office for 230 days. Turns out he spent something like 100 of those days on vacation.
gottcha... i believe they mentioned that he had pleanty of time to react to this before it happened... I mean it's not like he got it the night before. not sure the exact date.

As for the 9/11 commission... not sure i trust them either. Bush has more power and connections than anyone realizes. Between daddy bush and jr. bush... and all their saudi friends.. they have enough $$$ to pretty much do anything they want and get away with it.




edit: it was also mentioned the they knew that al qadea had people in the country training and in pilot school... not sure the exact details....

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You took that quote after I did in that other thread about bush beating people in debates. lmao!

I call cheating on you

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