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detoxed · 06-24-2004, 08:30 PM

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Matt Frackas · 06-24-2004, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by emthree
Lies, she looks older

Nobody calls me a liar ....I mean unless he's some anonymous dickhead on GFY

Ash@phpFX · 06-24-2004, 09:05 PM

loks pretty good, got any pics from the end of the shoot when you say she was doing better?

TweetyBird · 06-24-2004, 09:06 PM

not bad

neewwman · 06-24-2004, 09:34 PM

She has a double chin.

Then again, so does Rachel Hunter.

I want to squeeze her boobies.

kowntafit · 06-24-2004, 09:37 PM

She does look pretty old.

BillyHoe · 06-24-2004, 09:55 PM

she's cute, I'd poke her a couple of times.

Porn4abuck · 06-24-2004, 11:41 PM

Yeah... shes cute and she looks to be a fun girl also.

Danny Dukes · 06-25-2004, 12:17 AM

I personally like Ginger Jolie!

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by kowntafit
She does look pretty old.

Are you guys on CRACK?

In your infinite wisdom.....what EXACTLY is it about this 20 year old chick ....shot on a digital camera, with on camera flash and NO MAKEUP...that makes you think she is "old" ?

What? her FRECKLES?

How many "OLD" people have TITS (non-enhanced) like that?

Please enlighten me.

body · 06-25-2004, 01:06 AM

nice

Ar3s · 06-25-2004, 01:06 AM

she is ok.

FTVGirls · 06-25-2004, 01:14 AM

She looks 19-20 to me, and she is quite cute, I'm with Matt there.

But man this boring style of photography with the same couch, & lack of any degree of improvement in the past 7 years -- even for the amateur style your try to represent -- you still got members signing up to your sites?

Donny · 06-25-2004, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by Matt Frackas
Brand new. First shoot ever!

Is she brand new, as in REALLY brand new...

- or -

Is she brand new as in the way Chantelle was brand new: "Since Donovan Phillips is from a really small market up in Chico, I'm going to claim Chantelle Fontaine was found by me when she was actually found by Donny and sent down to me" (Chantelle tells her "adult" background in her own words here ).

Which is it?

I guess my question is: how did you find THIS "brand new" girl? Did a photographer from a smaller market refer her to you, thereby causing you to assume that since she's "brand new" to the LA market she's a "brand new" model? Or did she decide one day that she'd pose naked and that Matt would be her first nude photographer?

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
She looks 19-20 to me, and she is quite cute, I'm with Matt there.

But man this boring style of photography with the same couch, & lack of any degree of improvement in the past 7 years -- even for the amateur style your try to represent -- you still got members signing up to your sites?

"Boring" is 100% SUBJECTIVE.

Um....Im not shooting on a couch.

Improvement? so I can look like WHAT? The Glamour stuff YOUR "trying" to emulate?

My photos are not TRYING to be "amateur" .
NO IMPROVEMENT in 7 years would by YOUR characterization = "AMATEUR"
DUH.

Donny · 06-25-2004, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Is she brand new, as in REALLY brand new...

- or -

Is she brand new as in the way Chantelle was brand new: "Since Donovan Phillips is from a really small market up in Chico, I'm going to claim Chantelle Fontaine was found by me when she was actually found by Donny and sent down to me" (Chantelle tells her "adult" background in her own words here ).

Which is it?

I guess my question is: how did you find THIS "brand new" girl? Did a photographer from a smaller market refer her to you, thereby causing you to assume that since she's "brand new" to the LA market she's a "brand new" model? Or did she decide one day that she'd pose naked and that Matt would be her first nude photographer?

Oh, I forgot to comment on the girl. She's pretty nice.

Kicker · 06-25-2004, 01:34 AM

MikeHawk · 06-25-2004, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Matt Frackas
yeah ...seriously ...these are the first SEVERAL photos she has ever done modeling ..so the "double chin" thing we had to work on while shooting ...by the end of the shoot she was MUCH better.

Super cute..
Need to see the Ass!

Donny · 06-25-2004, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
"Boring" is 100% SUBJECTIVE.

Um....Im not shooting on a couch.

Improvement? so I can look like WHAT? The Glamour stuff YOUR "trying" to emulate?

My photos are not TRYING to be "amateur" .
NO IMPROVEMENT in 7 years would by YOUR characterization = "AMATEUR"
DUH.

It wouldn't hurt to buy a few strobes and use a digital SLR. You'd still be able to shoot "amateur" style, but you'd make the model more 3D looking and much more attractive to members.

Brian taught me that a few years ago, and GOD DAMN, was he RIGHT!! Sales and rebills went through the roof with just a few minor changes, yet the amateur style wasn't sacrificed.

lagwagon · 06-25-2004, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
"Boring" is 100% SUBJECTIVE.

Um....Im not shooting on a couch.

Improvement? so I can look like WHAT? The Glamour stuff YOUR "trying" to emulate?

My photos are not TRYING to be "amateur" .
NO IMPROVEMENT in 7 years would by YOUR characterization = "AMATEUR"
DUH.

ya bro you are correct you are not shooting on a couch. she is standing infront of a RED sheet. what is this RED screen? nice job! she is a hottie I will give her two thumbs up

but you do need to work on the lighting and location of this foxy girl.

ps. please note my use of capitalization on my post with the word RED. <---- oooops i did it again.

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Is she brand new, as in REALLY brand new...

- or -

Is she brand new as in the way Chantelle was brand new: "Since Donovan Phillips is from a really small market up in Chico, I'm going to claim Chantelle Fontaine was found by me when she was actually found by Donny and sent down to me" (Chantelle tells her "adult" background in her own words here ).

Which is it?

I guess my question is: how did you find THIS "brand new" girl? Did a photographer from a smaller market refer her to you, thereby causing you to assume that since she's "brand new" to the LA market she's a "brand new" model? Or did she decide one day that she'd pose naked and that Matt would be her first nude photographer?

I actually feel SORRY for you....still BROODING over your relationship with Chantelle. If you want to get all the way into the details of ME, YOU and CHANTELLE on GFY.....which we hashed over on emails about a year ago.....LETS DO IT....

GO FOR IT.

As far as this model....a friend of mine went and found her, gave her to me....and this was her FIRST SHOOT.....so I'll put that out for ANYBODY to DISPROVE SOMEHOW.

SHOW ME THE PHOTOS!

Donny · 06-25-2004, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
I actually feel SORRY for you....still BROODING over your relationship with Chantelle. If you want to get all the way into the details of ME, YOU and CHANTELLE on GFY.....which we hashed over on emails about a year ago.....LETS DO IT....

GO FOR IT.

As far as this model....a friend of mine went and found her, gave her to me....and this was her FIRST SHOOT.....so I'll put that out for ANYBODY to DISPROVE SOMEHOW.

SHOW ME THE PHOTOS!

Just wanting to see who's version of "first time model" you're using: Matt's - or - the rest of the world.

lagwagon · 06-25-2004, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
I actually feel SORRY for you....still BROODING over your relationship with Chantelle. If you want to get all the way into the details of ME, YOU and CHANTELLE on GFY.....which we hashed over on emails about a year ago.....LETS DO IT....

GO FOR IT.

As far as this model....a friend of mine went and found her, gave her to me....and this was her FIRST SHOOT.....so I'll put that out for ANYBODY to DISPROVE SOMEHOW.

SHOW ME THE PHOTOS!

, how about that? Donovan is my boy and he is giving you tips, how about you take the constructive criticism and work with it? is it that hard to do?

i got rid of the beginning that is childish. but seriously let us help you.

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
It wouldn't hurt to buy a few strobes and use a digital SLR. You'd still be able to shoot "amateur" style, but you'd make the model more 3D looking and much more attractive to members.

Brian taught me that a few years ago, and GOD DAMN, was he RIGHT!! Sales and rebills went through the roof with just a few minor changes, yet the amateur style wasn't sacrificed.

Donny ...first of all.....
good, great, greatest and other similar superlatives in front of "photographer" are ALL SUBJECTIVE terms...and I really could care less about what other dudes who CLAIM they are photographers think about my style or your style of shooting.

I can EASILY find my own personal criticism about your photos (publising photos of the models in MID-BLINK, or when the model is in MID-TURN from pose to pose etc) ...however I do not JUDGE other Internet site owners this way. Your members Im sure LOVE YOUR PHOTOS.....so only YOU KNOW WHATS RIGHT FOR YOUR MARKET

Believe me....I KNOW WHAT MY MARKET IS AND WHAT MY MEMBERS LIKE. ....(unlike some Morons)

lagwagon · 06-25-2004, 01:50 AM

THIS THREAD IS RETARDED <--------- god dammit i cant stop with the caps

lagwagon · 06-25-2004, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
Donny ...first of all.....
good, great, greatest and other similar superlatives in front of "photographer" are ALL SUBJECTIVE terms...and I really could care less about what other dudes who CLAIM they are photographers think about my style or your style of shooting.

I can EASILY find my own personal criticism about your photos (publising photos of the models in MID-BLINK, or when the model is in MID-TURN from pose to pose etc) ...however I do not JUDGE other Internet site owners this way. Your members Im sure LOVE YOUR PHOTOS.....so only YOU KNOW WHATS RIGHT FOR YOUR MARKET

Believe me....I KNOW WHAT MY MARKET IS AND WHAT MY MEMBERS LIKE. ....(unlike some Morons)

FTVGIRLS claims to be photographers. does anyone want a hug?

Donny · 06-25-2004, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
I actually feel SORRY for you....still BROODING over your relationship with Chantelle.

Nope. Not at all. I was asking if this model is "new" in the way that you claimed, on your site, that Chantelle was "brand new" and discovered by you. When in fact she was discovered by me and appeared on my site 2 months before I sent her down to you as a favor. Sent because of a good reference about you from Todd.

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
If you want to get all the way into the details of ME, YOU and CHANTELLE on GFY.....which we hashed over on emails about a year ago.....LETS DO IT....

GO FOR IT.

No need, unless you want to go there. It won't make YOU look very good, though. Your call.

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
As far as this model....a friend of mine went and found her, gave her to me....and this was her FIRST SHOOT.....so I'll put that out for ANYBODY to DISPROVE SOMEHOW.

SHOW ME THE PHOTOS!

Cool. Sure this "friend" didn't shoot her first? Or, for the sake of your ego, is he allowing you to claim you found her?

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Just wanting to see who's version of "first time model" you're using: Matt's - or - the rest of the world.

See my previous post.

and I never CLAIMED I "found" Chantelle nor did I ever claim I was the "FIRST" to shoot her.

So dont come on here and talk LIES about me...that would be ...um ...stupid?

lagwagon · 06-25-2004, 01:54 AM

anyone else reading this thread besides Matt, Donovan, and I??

Donny · 06-25-2004, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
See my previous post.

and I never CLAIMED I "found" Chantelle nor did I ever claim I was the "FIRST" to shoot her.

So dont come on here and talk LIES about me...that would be ...um ...stupid?

You did indeed have it on your site for quite some time. Bragging about how YOU found Penthouse Pet of the Month Chantelle Fontain. That's why I made the rebuttal page on my site and submitted it to her fan sites.

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Nope. Not at all. I was asking if this model is "new" in the way that you claimed, on your site, that Chantelle was "brand new" and discovered by you.

Heres the link to the Free Section on my site where shes at:
http://www.mattsmodels.com/freestuff/index.php?200305
It reads:
-------------------------------------------------------------
5/13/2003
Brand new World Class beauty. From a small cow town, she got off the plane, came to my place, took off her clothes and I almost fainted. Need I say more?
---------------------------------------------------------------
thats a true statement......for Matt's Models she was a brand new model.

I never said I discovered her...or that she had never shot before...or that this was her first shoot.

...So please show us where I said these things??

toddler · 06-25-2004, 02:03 AM

its like a who's dick is bigger contest in here. relaxxxxxxx....

Donny · 06-25-2004, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
Heres the link to the Free Section on my site where shes at:
http://www.mattsmodels.com/freestuff/index.php?200305
It reads:
-------------------------------------------------------------
5/13/2003
Brand new World Class beauty. From a small cow town, she got off the plane, came to my place, took off her clothes and I almost fainted. Need I say more?
---------------------------------------------------------------
thats a true statement......for Matt's Models she was a brand new model.

I never said I discovered her...or that she had never shot before...or that this was her first shoot.

...So please show us where I said these things??

I made my rebuttal page to counter what you had said when she was more prominently featured on the site. She was the first girl people saw when they came to your site for awhile.

Donny · 06-25-2004, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddler
its like a who's dick is bigger contest in here. relaxxxxxxx....

Mine's not that big around...

...but it's really SHORT.

stev0 · 06-25-2004, 02:05 AM

definately looks older than 19

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I made my rebuttal page to counter what you had said when she was more prominently featured on the site. She was the first girl people saw when they came to your site for awhile.

I dont give a fuck WHO found her...I never did.
YOU DO..Donny....and are in fact obessed with it.

I dont give a fuck what you write about me Donny (I mean after all..you are the "Religious Pornographer" who talks about creationism on GFY) LOL
....unless its LIES ..

so either ante up the info where I claim this stuff you say ...or retract what you said.

Donny · 06-25-2004, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
I dont give a fuck WHO found her...I never did.
YOU DO..Donny....and are in fact obessed with it.

I dont give a fuck what you write about me Donny (I mean after all..you are the "Religious Pornographer" who talks about creationism on GFY) LOL
....unless its LIES ..

so either ante up the info where I claim this stuff you say ...or retract what you said.

Sorry Matt, there won't be a retraction.

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 02:14 AM

Donny

Why dont you go hassle the FTV guy?

He claims ALL HIS MODELS ARE FIRST TIME VIDEO GIRLS !!

Do you think thats TRUE?
hes the FIRST GUY TO GET VIDEO ON ALL HIS MODELS?

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Sorry Matt, there won't be a retraction.

because you cant PRODUCE ANY EVIDENCE.

Your pathetic Donny. GET A LIFE.

DutchTeenCash · 06-25-2004, 02:20 AM

phey lotsa drama... i was just looking for some hot 19yo pics, shes nice though nice boobs...

woj · 06-25-2004, 02:21 AM

very nice

Donny · 06-25-2004, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Frackas
because you cant PRODUCE ANY EVIDENCE.

Your pathetic Donny. GET A LIFE.

The evidence doesn't exist anymore. You changed your main page.

But even that free page you posted a link to gives a hint that what I'm saying is true.

You said:

5/13/2003
Brand new World Class beauty. From a small cow town, she got off the plane, came to my place, took off her clothes and I almost fainted. Need I say more?
---------------------------------------------------------------
thats a true statement......for Matt's Models she was a brand new model.

I never said I discovered her...or that she had never shot before...or that this was her first shoot.

...So please show us where I said these things??

It's easy to post that "for Matt's Models she was a brand new model" and claim that's what you meant. But it doesn't take a genius to see that you're saying she's a brand new model, in much the same way that you're claiming the new girl in this thread is a new model.

Just like she's 19 in the thread title, but then 20 later in the thread. And your excuse is that you've shot 700 models and get them confused. Well, if you just shot her today you'd think you wouldn't get her confused with anyone else yet.

Yep, we believe ya!

lagwagon · 06-25-2004, 02:31 AM

Matt Frackas · 06-25-2004, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
The evidence doesn't exist anymore. You changed your main page.

NOPE....sorry...your in "Donny World" again.
Why would I change it?? (I was afraid Donny would come after me and point out some untrue marketing statements on my site LOL)

Ive had the same shit up there for 4 years..same basic design, DIFFERENT PHOTOS.

But even that free page you posted a link to gives a hint that what I'm saying is true.

a "hint" ?

You said:

5/13/2003
Brand new World Class beauty. From a small cow town, she got off the plane, came to my place, took off her clothes and I almost fainted. Need I say more?
---------------------------------------------------------------
thats a true statement......for Matt's Models she was a brand new model.

I never said I discovered her...or that she had never shot before...or that this was her first shoot.

...So please show us where I said these things??

It's easy to post that "for Matt's Models she was a brand new model" and claim that's what you meant. But it doesn't take a genius to see that you're saying she's a brand new model, in much the same way that you're claiming the new girl in this thread is a new model.

um....Donny....is all marketing copy on adult websites 100% TRUE?
I mean when they say "Check out our First Time Horny Sluts! We found them on the street hitchhiking and paid them $20 to fuck!"

is that shit all true! Do you email all these sites to see if they are telling the truth?

LOL

Just like she's 19 in the thread title, but then 20 later in the thread. And your excuse is that you've shot 700 models and get them confused. Well, if you just shot her today you'd think you wouldn't get her confused with anyone else yet.

Yep, we believe ya!

Poor Donny.
Unlike you ..I CAN back up what I say. and claim.
I'll send you her ID via email tomorrow.

the source · 06-25-2004, 02:39 AM

she is cute no matter who shot her first or whatever the fuck you guys are arguing about... other than her man hands that is.

Donny · 06-25-2004, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the source
she is cute no matter who shot her first or whatever the fuck you guys are arguing about... other than her man hands that is.

The argument is over another model. Not this one.

lagwagon · 06-25-2004, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by the source
she is cute no matter who shot her first or whatever the fuck you guys are arguing about... other than her man hands that is.

hell ya she is a hottie hands down. she has great tits and a cute smile. and where the hell in tempe are you? we need to get some drinks bro!! hit a brotha up 167179530

lagwagon · 06-25-2004, 02:43 AM

step into my office, because your fucking fired!!! <------ what movie baby???

BlueQuartz · 06-25-2004, 02:48 AM

damn the drama

shes got nice tits lets leave it at that heh

the source · 06-25-2004, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lagwagon
hell ya she is a hottie hands down. she has great tits and a cute smile. and where the hell in tempe are you? we need to get some drinks bro!! hit a brotha up 167179530

I live on the bad side of tempe, where all the asu kids don't play and every other palm tree is a fuckin cell phone tower disguised as a palm tree.

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