Ibill vs CCbill or other CC processor - GoFuckYourself.com

Grzejnick · 06-22-2004, 06:30 PM

I`m looking for CC processor

which one is the best in your opinion?
which one is more friendly for users and of course for me

any suggestions?

Thanks

Webby · 06-22-2004, 07:17 PM

None. It's called a battle. Use em all and good luck!

Royal Cash · 06-22-2004, 07:21 PM

ccbill has more features like advertising many sites under 1 acc.

but ibill takes cards better

ZanyCash Larry · 06-22-2004, 07:30 PM

They both have their pros and cons. You should distribute among both.

Reak · 06-22-2004, 07:32 PM

I like Ibill.

frankthetank · 06-22-2004, 07:34 PM

I would say Ibill just because they made me my first fortune and very user friendly, I have never been with ccbill but I would say after being with Ibill, probilling, and currently verotel I would say Ibill is the best. Although Ibill you have to pay the $700 fee or whatever I would still chose either them of ccbill if I wasnt canadian and could use them. Ibill's customer service was really bad at times to get a hold of your representative but they just changed hands and are now owned by hustler so hopefully that means only good things for the future.

oldnewbie · 06-22-2004, 07:53 PM

Ibill has the best signups and especially rebills of any processor we've tried. Tech support has vastly improved there in the past year.

ImLost · 06-22-2004, 09:00 PM

verotel , or ccbill if you want alot of adverTsiers

spooky181 · 06-23-2004, 03:40 AM

If you wan't signups then Verotel is by far the best option...

Theo · 06-23-2004, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankthetank
I now owned by hustler

not true

adjektiv · 06-23-2004, 05:36 AM

Ibill makes the most money for me and gets the most sign ups. I call them on the phone if I need help and I get through to someone in under a few minutes.

Verotel · 06-23-2004, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grzejnick
I`m looking for CC processor

which one is the best in your opinion?
which one is more friendly for users and of course for me

any suggestions?

Thanks

MarkIBill · 06-23-2004, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankthetank
now owned by hustler so hopefully that means only good things for the future.

Thanks for all the good words. However, we were purchased by Penthouse International.

Kicker · 06-23-2004, 05:44 AM

Use both

Hank_Heartland · 06-23-2004, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
not true

Right...It's now owned by Penthouse

slapass · 06-23-2004, 06:10 AM

Penthouse is in the shitter though aren't they?

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040521/215408_1.html

Its subsidiary is in bankruptcy and the stock is delisted.

Grzejnick · 06-23-2004, 02:32 PM

thanks

any one else could help with this choice

which one have better refferals/partnership programs include?

DatingGold · 06-23-2004, 06:20 PM

Ibill

XPays · 06-23-2004, 06:36 PM

The best converting site out of over 50 in XPays.com is http://HotelHeiress.com - which uses IBill and does under 1:100 counting front page clicks. On some links they are doing better than 1:30 and we have a great approval ratio on attempts to successfuls for initial full month memberships. It is early for us with IBill but none of the sites we mix in work as well. Jettis is doing consistently well on our Swank Magazine 50/50 program.

New FHG's for HotelHeiress
New Creative as well- see http://www.hotelheiress.com/promo2.phtml?i=00920

SteveLightspeed · 06-23-2004, 07:01 PM

Ccbill has paid ontime everytime for over 5 years solid.

No one can say that about Ibill.

XPays · 06-23-2004, 07:07 PM

Ibill has paid us on time for 4 years on our first account with them and on time for HotelHeiress.com sales since start.

I understand webmasters feel burned on the web900 deal - but I always thought it was lazy of webmasters to use their processor for pay by phone. checks - ya sure, but phone billing imho is a very specialized field that savy webmasters will choose to use a specialized company for.

Anyway, I've seen you post this thought many times and it doesn't just reflect poorly on IBill....

SteveLightspeed · 06-23-2004, 07:13 PM

Truth is, it wasn't losing the money that bothered me. It was the stalling, lying, avoiding, and double-talking bullshit that killed Ibill for me.

But I do feel well supported by the people at CCbill, I like to throw them some love whenever I can. Nothing wrong with that right?

Steve Lightspeed

SleazyDream · 06-23-2004, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Truth is, it wasn't losing the money that bothered me. It was the stalling, lying, avoiding, and double-talking bullshit that killed Ibill for me.

But I do feel well supported by the people at CCbill, I like to throw them some love whenever I can. Nothing wrong with that right?

Steve Lightspeed

i agree - i'd rather work with people i trust.

XPays · 06-23-2004, 07:19 PM

Around that time, if my memory is correct- vanawatu went down and many dialer payouts were hurt. that is a high risk business as we all know so part of playing in the big leagues are the costs of doing business on high risk...

Anyway, runarounds suck but second chances are what business is all about. The processing world is so monopolistic in the first place.

I could care less who you process with and the more the merrier. Is it ok if if I express my opinion just as you do? right?

Zprogramz · 06-23-2004, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grzejnick
I`m looking for CC processor

which one is the best in your opinion?
which one is more friendly for users and of course for me

any suggestions?

Thanks

Use Netbilling. They give you the most options and best pricing. Use CCbill as a backup.

Z

Morgan · 06-23-2004, 08:39 PM

Use Likewhoa Billing, Inc.

SteveLightspeed · 06-23-2004, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
Around that time, if my memory is correct- vanawatu went down and many dialer payouts were hurt. that is a high risk business as we all know so part of playing in the big leagues are the costs of doing business on high risk...

Anyway, runarounds suck but second chances are what business is all about. The processing world is so monopolistic in the first place.

I could care less who you process with and the more the merrier. Is it ok if if I express my opinion just as you do? right?

I have no beef with you Evan, and Ibill has the support of lots of fine companies. Just not mine.

I've learned a lot over the last few years, and if I cared enough about the money lost at Ibill I would have sued them by now. I've been too busy doing what I do, the money lost was just a blip on the screen. They've lost more in not processing us than we lost by their 900 fuckup.

Things have a funny way of working themselves out in this biz.

Steve Lightspeed

DatingGold · 06-23-2004, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
Penthouse is in the shitter though aren't they?

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040521/215408_1.html

Its subsidiary is in bankruptcy and the stock is delisted.

I bet they go private which is the better thing to do for a porn company.

gazool · 06-23-2004, 10:36 PM

VEROTEL

Anyway... If you areplanning on having affiliates, you will need to go for CCBILL, since the affiliate area from IBILL STINKS

Major (Tom) · 06-24-2004, 12:01 AM

ccbill scrubs about 15% more than I Bill.
ccbill scrubs about 10% more rebills than I bill.
you will increase your bottom line by 25% by using I Bill.
and thats the bottom line...
duke

MikeHawk · 06-24-2004, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grzejnick
I`m looking for CC processor

which one is the best in your opinion?
which one is more friendly for users and of course for me

any suggestions?

Thanks

Hey there hit up Kristi at Ibill she is very cool, and will handle all your needs,
ICQ: 234-382-798
[email protected]
888-371-7800 ext: 4610
Tell her Mike Hawk from Smashbucks sent you ....

or

www.mansionproductions.com
and use them all....

!oi · 06-24-2004, 12:37 AM

anything but ibill

Jason Fromm · 06-28-2004, 02:06 AM

Generally, you want to use two or three billing companies. Depends upon what your doing, where your at, what you want to do...drop me a line if you want to talk more about our services.

V_RocKs · 06-28-2004, 02:27 AM

It's called cascading and you want CCBILL and EPOCH.

goBigtime · 06-28-2004, 02:30 AM

Theo · 06-28-2004, 02:40 AM

ccbill all the way
actually im about to get an account too

06-22-2004, 06:30 PM	#1
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06-22-2004, 07:17 PM	#2
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	None. It's called a battle. Use em all and good luck!

06-22-2004, 07:21 PM	#3
Royal Cash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Royal-Cash Posts: 1,739	ccbill has more features like advertising many sites under 1 acc. but ibill takes cards better

06-22-2004, 07:32 PM	#5
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	I like Ibill.

06-22-2004, 07:34 PM	#6
frankthetank Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 616	I would say Ibill just because they made me my first fortune and very user friendly, I have never been with ccbill but I would say after being with Ibill, probilling, and currently verotel I would say Ibill is the best. Although Ibill you have to pay the $700 fee or whatever I would still chose either them of ccbill if I wasnt canadian and could use them. Ibill's customer service was really bad at times to get a hold of your representative but they just changed hands and are now owned by hustler so hopefully that means only good things for the future.

06-22-2004, 07:53 PM	#7
oldnewbie Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The End Times Posts: 394	Ibill has the best signups and especially rebills of any processor we've tried. Tech support has vastly improved there in the past year.

06-23-2004, 03:40 AM	#9
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	If you wan't signups then Verotel is by far the best option...

06-23-2004, 05:36 AM	#11
adjektiv Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 381	Ibill makes the most money for me and gets the most sign ups. I call them on the phone if I need help and I get through to someone in under a few minutes.

06-23-2004, 06:10 AM	#16
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Penthouse is in the shitter though aren't they? http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040521/215408_1.html Its subsidiary is in bankruptcy and the stock is delisted.

06-23-2004, 06:20 PM	#18
DatingGold $6 PER EMAIL JOiN Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California Posts: 13,185	Ibill __________________ 9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions! ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303

06-23-2004, 06:36 PM	#19
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	The best converting site out of over 50 in XPays.com is http://HotelHeiress.com - which uses IBill and does under 1:100 counting front page clicks. On some links they are doing better than 1:30 and we have a great approval ratio on attempts to successfuls for initial full month memberships. It is early for us with IBill but none of the sites we mix in work as well. Jettis is doing consistently well on our Swank Magazine 50/50 program. New FHG's for HotelHeiress New Creative as well- see http://www.hotelheiress.com/promo2.phtml?i=00920 __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

06-23-2004, 07:01 PM	#20
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Ccbill has paid ontime everytime for over 5 years solid. No one can say that about Ibill. __________________ Abra-cadabra!

06-23-2004, 07:07 PM	#21
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	Ibill has paid us on time for 4 years on our first account with them and on time for HotelHeiress.com sales since start. I understand webmasters feel burned on the web900 deal - but I always thought it was lazy of webmasters to use their processor for pay by phone. checks - ya sure, but phone billing imho is a very specialized field that savy webmasters will choose to use a specialized company for. Anyway, I've seen you post this thought many times and it doesn't just reflect poorly on IBill.... __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

06-23-2004, 07:13 PM	#22
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	Truth is, it wasn't losing the money that bothered me. It was the stalling, lying, avoiding, and double-talking bullshit that killed Ibill for me. But I do feel well supported by the people at CCbill, I like to throw them some love whenever I can. Nothing wrong with that right? Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra!

06-23-2004, 07:19 PM	#24
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	Around that time, if my memory is correct- vanawatu went down and many dialer payouts were hurt. that is a high risk business as we all know so part of playing in the big leagues are the costs of doing business on high risk... Anyway, runarounds suck but second chances are what business is all about. The processing world is so monopolistic in the first place. I could care less who you process with and the more the merrier. Is it ok if if I express my opinion just as you do? right? __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

06-23-2004, 08:39 PM	#26
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06-23-2004, 10:36 PM	#29
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06-24-2004, 12:01 AM	#30
Major (Tom) Boomer Woffen Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,548	ccbill scrubs about 15% more than I Bill. ccbill scrubs about 10% more rebills than I bill. you will increase your bottom line by 25% by using I Bill. and thats the bottom line... duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

06-24-2004, 12:37 AM	#32
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06-28-2004, 02:06 AM	#33
Jason Fromm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 369	Generally, you want to use two or three billing companies. Depends upon what your doing, where your at, what you want to do...drop me a line if you want to talk more about our services. __________________ Jason Fromm ICQ 240845568 [email protected]

06-28-2004, 02:27 AM	#34
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06-28-2004, 02:30 AM	#35
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06-28-2004, 02:40 AM	#36
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	ccbill all the way actually im about to get an account too