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Old 06-19-2004, 10:20 AM   #1
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What is more sexy to you? Seeing nothing or all? (Pics)

Hi guys,

what turns you more on? Seeing all or seeing nothing and the rest is your phantasie doing?

Ok, next option of course, you don't like me.

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Old 06-19-2004, 10:21 AM   #2
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Or this?



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Old 06-19-2004, 10:25 AM   #3
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This one?

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Old 06-19-2004, 10:28 AM   #4
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:29 AM   #5
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.... or this one?

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Old 06-19-2004, 10:32 AM   #6
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:34 AM   #7
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:36 AM   #8
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clothes on..no offence but you seem really good at teasing
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:38 AM   #9
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@ teengodfather

..... hm, only a semi-erection? Might be because I'm mature and not a teen!

Next round:

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Old 06-19-2004, 10:38 AM   #10
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1st pic did it ... the other pics scared the hell outa me
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:39 AM   #11
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:40 AM   #12
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or hard action?

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Old 06-19-2004, 10:41 AM   #13
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yeah all the pics looks old it looks like around 80's or 90's
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Old 06-19-2004, 10:52 AM   #14
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yeah all the pics looks old it looks like around 80's or 90's
Really? First two pictures are from this afternoon and the others from last year and 2002. Well it's the kind of nostalgic look I want to have on my pictures.

Anyway, I just was interested how guys react which are not into the stocking/pantyhose fetish.

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Old 06-19-2004, 11:01 AM   #15
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it's all in the tease.
Even when in hardcore, if a model is just saying "cheese" to the camera, it's a turnoff. She should be enjoying it, or pretending to enjoy it.
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:04 AM   #16
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:16 AM   #17
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well, you asked for it, so i will opine, since this is a topic that interests me. (how to move the surfer to act.)

novelty is always interesting, and the quest for beauty is admirable. these images show attention to detail.

the photography is semi-competent.

but stylized posing is not effective for today's surfer.

what i'm saying is this:

all the raw material is here, people are attractive, but there is no heat.

heat comes from the illusion of authenticity. it is the difference between a tv soap opera where you see the acting, and cinema-verite', where you don't.

so it needs to be shot differently to be effective---of course it will be posed setups---but the viewer will believe it is reality.

and then, IMO, it will sell.
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Old 06-19-2004, 11:30 AM   #18
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well, you asked for it, so i will opine, since this is a topic that interests me. (how to move the surfer to act.) novelty is always interesting, and the quest for beauty is admirable. these images show attention to detail.

the photography is semi-competent.

but stylized posing is not effective for today's surfer.

what i'm saying is this:

all the raw material is here, people are attractive, but there is no heat.

heat comes from the illusion of authenticity. it is the difference between a tv soap opera where you see the acting, and cinema-verite', where you don't.

so it needs to be shot differently to be effective---of course it will be posed setups---but the viewer will believe it is reality.

and then, IMO, it will sell.
@ latinasojourn

Oh, thank you a lot for telling me your thoughts. Thats what I'm trying, that my pictures are telling a story or that the surfer thinks to be present. Well, I have to work harder on it.

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Old 06-19-2004, 11:45 AM   #19
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Old 06-19-2004, 12:04 PM   #21
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Oh, thank you a lot for telling me your thoughts. Thats what I'm trying, that my pictures are telling a story or that the surfer thinks to be present. Well, I have to work harder on it.

Eve
or, i will say this differently.

if you do a shoot such as this, be very critical of what makes the final cut.

most "content" producers just click,click,click and then show all of their mediocre images.

all photoshoots have really great compelling images, and then lots of mediocre images.

for example: the images you have selected in your sig are great compelling images.

the artist never lets mediocre images see the light of day, and certainly does not post them on the web where they take on a life of their own.

because doing this depreciates the total value of the artistic work.

probably no one will understand this. the surfer today responds to quality, not quantity.
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Old 06-19-2004, 12:08 PM   #22
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probably no one will understand this. the surfer today responds to quality, not quantity.
I totally understand that..hell yeah...my wife also does understand that...while we shoot filler stuff for her site, she and her members get very excited with the sets that are morethought out and take time to do, over the quick sets that just fill space
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Old 06-19-2004, 01:05 PM   #26
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I know what you mean, but running a members site it's getting a kind of difficult. I'm not sure if users would appreciate updates with 50 perfect pictures instead of receiving 200.

I don't wonna say this way that I put crap pictures online, of course I delete those with closed eyes or if the face is not coming good out on it, but the rest goes online.

I'm not sure about quality goes before quantity. Even if the preview says 20,000 pics they order easier then saying 2,000 high quality pics. Maybe I'm wrong ........

This is what I like to show but still got inquieries for hard stuff.

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Old 06-19-2004, 01:07 PM   #27
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thats a bit too graphic for my tastes, clothes on better.
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Either full-on tease or hardcore action, nothing in between.
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This last photo is nice. I really didn't like the photographic style in the others.

I also hate ultra tight closeups of vagina's.
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Old 06-19-2004, 02:23 PM   #33
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clothes on.. isn´t the purpose to tease the surfer?
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Seeing all , But god damn thoses chicks are some nasty ones!
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i like them on too btw.
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I know what you mean, but running a members site it's getting a kind of difficult. I'm not sure if users would appreciate updates with 50 perfect pictures instead of receiving 200.

I don't wonna say this way that I put crap pictures online, of course I delete those with closed eyes or if the face is not coming good out on it, but the rest goes online.

I'm not sure about quality goes before quantity. Even if the preview says 20,000 pics they order easier then saying 2,000 high quality pics. Maybe I'm wrong ........

This is what I like to show but still got inquieries for hard stuff.


hard or soft does not matter so much in 2004, believe it. everyone by now has seen the most clinical hardcore imaginable.

what the surfer really wants is a connection with the content---he needs to "get into it"... and either hardcore or softcore can do this if done properly.

and this image is good enough to be worthy of comment.

a beautiful girl to be sure, beautiful hair, face, and mouth. good teeth, pretty nipples, nice hands and nails. discard what most of the naysayers here say, (many of them are pimpley-faced virgins living at home with mom---they wouldn't know what to do with a real woman---and the lingerie fetish is way over their heads.)

good color in photo, adding sheen for visual interest, all good technique.

but the surfer will look at this for 2 secs and go onto the next image.

just another pretty girl.

so how do we make the surfer stop in his fucking tracks...how do we get his attention.

we create the illusion of reality with this very beautiful girl.

and we create a whole portfolio of beautiful images just from this pose, but we change things around a bit.

this set should include:

1. tight facial shot, showing just face, looking into lens
2. tight full-frame shot of just wet lips and teeth
3. tight shot with wide angle 6 inches from girl's forehead shooting down her reclining torso, hand in crotch, face in ecstasy , assistant puts light mist from plant sprayer on girl's forehead
4. normal focal length for some shots wide open with limited DOF so distracting items are out of focus.
5. shoot all parts of her that are beautiful, shoot around or camouflage all parts of her that are not beautiful. (lots of beauty on this girl to be sure)

etc. etc.

my point being you can get 100 very unusual and beautiful shots just from this one setup by changing focal lengths, moving the girl around a little bit, and showing the types of images that no one ever has seen.

the raw material is there, this is a very pretty and photogenic model.

now shoot her like you are a 12 year old boy who has never seen a woman naked.

make it edgy, and make it believable.

and THEN you will stop the surfer.
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Old 06-20-2004, 03:29 AM   #43
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Thanks all for taking the time to make a post and special thanks to latinasojourn. Not because he was the only one to say nice things but because he has taken the time to write construcitve comments.

I don't know what projects are you running at the internet but you really try to figure out what surfers could fascinate.

Thanks,
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