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lol i might be mistaken |
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Webmaster shows have been party shows. Always have been and probably always will be. Many people party and come away with plenty of business. I did some awesome business in San Diego and I was rather intoxicated most nights. Not something I boast about, but you only live once! |
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Can't wait to party again at the Westin Diplomat in August. Third straight year there and they haven't told us to get fucked yet. As long as we keep paying they will let us stay. As for W getting 4 more years, every American that gets beheaded over in the Middle East and the lack of ability to catch those responsible will drop him a few points in the polls. Doesn't matter to voters if Kerry can do a better job, it only matters that someone else will be in the White House to try. |
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This isn't webmaster shows, it could be a pharmaceutical convention and the dynamics would be the same once the sun goes down. Not doing business with a rep because you feel that they were too intoxicated falls into the same category as not doing business with someone because they offended you. If there is money to be made, who cares? Not condoning getting wrecked beyond belief, but I really don't give a damn if someone pissed on an atm to be honest. Jace is a super cool guy who seemed to really know what the hell is going on. I am sure lots of people would do business with him, probably already do :thumbsup Hell, with all the fees I have paid those banking bastards to withdraw money, bless the guys heart! He has my vote LOL |
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I swear I thought there was a fire. I just wanted to save everyone! |
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When you start with an industry that is based on mixing business with pleasure (rarely a wise thing) and add in the very nature of the adult internet, which by it's very nature any pimple-faced idiot with a computer and barely a wisp of website knowledge can start promoting porn and making money..... and you have the recipe for seeing unprofessionalism running rampant at business shows. I'm really not surprised by threads like this and am actually surprised there aren't more.
It is what it is. All we can do is try to set an example of treating this like a business and acting professionally and hope some of it rubs off, if we are in fact actually concerned what other people do. I for one am not, but if I ran a program and was sending reps to the shows I'm sure I WOULD care. And, I would be paying JFK more money than my reps to show me those pics. :Graucho |
I agree, too many dumb sales reps at shows. Get a clue people.
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I guess one of us sober loners should act up at some point, just to fit in. I think it's your turn, Stu. I'll take it in 2006. :thumbsup |
go to any convention of any industry and you'll find the same shit
druken/high/stupid/embarrasing/mental reps doing drunk/stupid/high/embarrasing/mental things. NEXT. |
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Not true I am alittle older than most here and worked in the business world . It didnt get as crazy as our shows get. Also you found the big players who made the real money working the show stone cold sober. My younger brother works for a pretty big pharma company and he tells me about the people who get alittle wild, he doesnt and he by 2005 will be the companies youngest director ever. The company I worked for when you went to a convention or business event you were told you are representing us til you got back home. Thats why I hated those things I had to be in business mode 24/7 for 4 days straight very tiring. Ever try smiling for 4 days your face hurts lol . |
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Agreed.. I too have been to conventions were our company had hospitality suite partys and the like at large scale conventions some bigger than internext and they are nothing like the ones we have in our industry.. In fact I brought with me back in 2000 to Internext (the called 1a200) to the shows with me and they were amazed.. Ask any empoyee of any hotel that has hosted a adult convention over others and they will tell you there is no comparison.. As there shouldnt be. We are a different breed. But it just seems as of late it more abnoxious and Boys gone wild than ever. However conventions and shows done over and over again can be tiresome in ANY industry.. Our industry nodoubt has the BEST and most FUN conventions than any other industry.. Im sure if I was stuck going to 10 Pharmacutical conventions a year Id be hating life much much more than having to go to 10 adult shows. |
I think we've all gotten a bit too intoxicated at shows at one point or another and said or done something stupid.
The last few shows I've been to I've followed the following game plan: 1. Stay completely sober through out the day and get as much business done as possible. 2. Go to various parties at night and have a few "social" drinks. I'm a small guy so it doesn't take me much to get drunk so I try to just maintain a small buzz early on. 3. Once 12:00 or so rolls around I'll get together with my closer friends and anyone new I've met and have all ready struck business deals with and go hit some strip clubs. Now away from all parties alone with people that know you as normal, THEN we all let loose and get smashed. At this point it's fun to just party and have a good time. Anyone new I may have just met then can get drunk with us and we all get to know each other. People tend to talk a lot when there drunk and you can bond with people at that point. You're less likely to get fucked over by people you're cool with like that. This is the way I've tried to handle myself at most shows. Sure in the middle of the night you might find me plastered somewhere and I "may" act a "bit" stupid....but if you're up at 3 am too then I hope you're drinking and having a good time as well. If a drunken webmasters is enough to make you not want to do biz with them, then I suggest getting all your biz done during the day. Then stick around the parties no later than 11 pm before anyone is too out of hand. Even the top dogs that normal and usually classy can get too tipsy now and again. Just my :2 cents: |
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I've never "done" anything stupid at shows but I know when I drink I talk a lot faster than usual and come across as high sometimes. Or I'll act a bit too cocky (which a lot of us can get overly full of ourselves as times). But this is all ways I might act at 3-4 in the morning after lots and lots of drinking. Daytime and early evening I'm totally normal. I'd guess MOST people are in the same boat. Note: I'm talking about late night craziness though. In general being a complete ass at a show isn't cool |
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So nope... I've never done anything I regret as a result of alcohol. |
Meloman I have no idea what you're talking about man. Every time I've seen you, you have been sotally tober!
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But hey, I'm all for doing it again :thumbsup |
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That's cool and I commend you for that. I'm usually a super fun person to party with as many people can attest to. But since the shows are also business events that's why I'll take off later in the night to party with closer friends/associates. This way we avoid possible problems. |
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But in all seriousness I don't agree in getting super drunk and making an ass of yourself in front of everyone, but sometimes it happens. If the person is normally in complete control and is respected then it should be overlooked since we all make mistakes. The only party event that I'm plastered at is the LightSpeed after party in Arizona. EVERYONE gets wasted there and it's just a good time. But in Vegas or Florida I try to stick to my motto of only getting super torn up after I leave the parties and I'm with a smaller group of "friends". |
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A: nothing she hasn't been told twice. |
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I grew up in a bar, family business, so I developed a rather unique tolerance to alcohol. So I can drink more than the average person and still retain my faculties. However, at a convention, I still don't take that chance... because as much fun as they are, I still believe that it's business. In the course of a night, I will usually have at most 4 drinks. After spending most of my life watching people throw up on themselves or just generally make total asses of themselves, I vowed to never let myself be like that. |
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Who Wants a Gmail Invite????
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I am capable of saying stupid things without the crutch of alcohol :)
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No, I just live next to one. |
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p.s. I don't have a boss, I work for myself...but god damn I was fucked up.... thanks again for the drinks JFK :glugglug |
send them to us, we'll hire them :-)
with the trainning and plans we will have for them, we wont have a problem of them being productive and effective...no problems with our girls...:thumbsup |
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Where's the popcorn guy when you need him? |
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WORD!:thumbsup That is the best thing I read in this entire thread!!!! |
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