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italianninja · 06-13-2004, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by mrgica
well you already told us...
Can I gues? sexzity?

no it isnt them. please no guessing.

ImLost · 06-13-2004, 10:17 AM

how could submitting a few galleries make you money if running a TGP with alot of your own galleries doesnt make money. IT seems running your own TGPS with rotated hosted galleries gives you more chance for $$$

emmanuelle · 06-13-2004, 10:18 AM

Some of you guys are so mean. He's a no0b kid who is absolutely no threat to any of you. Would it kill you to offer some constructive criticism instead of simply squashing his hopes?
I'm willing to bet he'd be thrilled with making $200/month and eternally grateful to those who helped him. Nice going Trixxxia

(and I havent offered any help because I know nothing about tgps)

crockett · 06-13-2004, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
*Starting* by trying to own and run a tgp is about the largest mistake in the business I've seen in 5 years or so.

couldn't agree with you more, I made this mistake the first thing I did was start a small TGP and then bought a decent sized TGP that was already up and running. However I read the board for about 3-4 months before I did either.

I personally can't stand submitting, it's just a pane in the ass but you can make money doing it with not a lot out of pocket.. BTW if you go the chameleon route use that link

Just a tip though, if you only submit for only one niche don't do teen.. do something else because teen is so over done you will never get listed at the good sites.

Clovis · 06-13-2004, 10:23 AM

making moolah with a TGP is very tough. Pay attention to what Trixxxia says it is very good advice. Concentrate on the quality of your traffic not the quantity. All the Yugos in the world do not add up to one Ferrari.

Tom_PMs · 06-13-2004, 10:25 AM

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how could submitting a few galleries make you money if running a TGP with alot of your own galleries doesnt make money. IT seems running your own TGPS with rotated hosted galleries gives you more chance for $$$

Because by doing the daily submit routine, you learn what sells and what you sell better. Also, the links to your own site will give you *some* traffic in addition to your trades. Plus will also get some spiders crawling your pages with regularity, thereby building your SE rankings naturally.

If you have time and money to invest, then go for it and buy traffic and ad spots and PPC spots... but without marketing knowledge.. well good luck

Joesho · 06-13-2004, 10:25 AM

give us a try, www.remotethumbs.com

crockett · 06-13-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by ImLost
how could submitting a few galleries make you money if running a TGP with alot of your own galleries doesnt make money. IT seems running your own TGPS with rotated hosted galleries gives you more chance for $$$

because when you start getting listed at the good TGPs that one gallery a day will see more traffic than a new TGP will see.

italianninja · 06-13-2004, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by emmanuelle
Some of you guys are so mean. He's a no0b kid who is absolutely no threat to any of you. Would it kill you to offer some constructive criticism instead of simply squashing his hopes?
I'm willing to bet he'd be thrilled with making $200/month and eternally grateful to those who helped him. Nice going Trixxxia

(and I havent offered any help because I know nothing about tgps)

i have wanted to say that but never had the confidence to do so on gfy.

thanks, you are 100% correct. you understand what i am on about.

HS-Trixxxia · 06-13-2004, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by emmanuelle
Some of you guys are so mean. He's a no0b kid who is absolutely no threat to any of you. Would it kill you to offer some constructive criticism instead of simply squashing his hopes?
I'm willing to bet he'd be thrilled with making $200/month and eternally grateful to those who helped him. Nice going Trixxxia

(and I havent offered any help because I know nothing about tgps)

Thank you

italianninja - my computer is blocked with emails so I don't want to turn on ICQ just yet. Give me a few - note my ICQ & I'll help anyway I can. I may not be a so-called SEO but I'm lucky at times

My problem is when I concentrate on one thing and one thing only - if I don't get results, I may give up - so when I don't like what one thing is doing, I generally move on to the next - then come back with a fresher mind and a little more knowledge on what I'm trying to accomplish.

One important thing that must also be said is try to read tutorials about what you're trying to accomplish. If you have to ask questions - make them pointed - general questions will normally get you a bunch of answers that won't help. Whatever you learn - try to put it to test immediately - see if there are any results - if favorable, keep it, if not go back to the previous version.

Tom_PMs · 06-13-2004, 10:34 AM

When you build a gallery or freesite yourself, and you want to know where to submit it, go to Google or some other SE and do a search on the niche of the freesite or gallery you'll be submitting. Submit to the link sites and tgp's that rank high for the term.
And if you link to a niche specific page of your own site from the free site or gallery, all the better for you spider-wise.
In addition, when that traffic eventually hits your trades, it will be more productive.

Just keep factoring out "luck", and you'll do better.

cosis · 06-13-2004, 10:35 AM

give it up - to hard to grow a TGP now...... unless you want to wait 10 years

mrgica · 06-13-2004, 10:36 AM

I'm both surprised and not surprised that nobody are talking about how important your host is...

Then here is a free tip: your host is the key to success!
I cant explain everything now but its all about speed and how much visitors you host can handle!!!

Have you ever wondered why the most of the TGPs come up easy to 10k-20k of daily traffic and then stops?

The thing is that most of people is searching for best prices for hosting, thats why some people fail and other success!

Well there it is the big secret reviled

I know many will say Im wrong, u figure out why...

hyper · 06-13-2004, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by ImLost
how could submitting a few galleries make you money if running a TGP with alot of your own galleries doesnt make money. IT seems running your own TGPS with rotated hosted galleries gives you more chance for $$$

because if you use G.A.S.S

it will build a gallery with 3 recips

you can include your recip on every page

so each gallery u submit to 2 TGP's and your recip will be there

helps in S.E spidering plus u can get a few uniques per gallery to your site.

hyper · 06-13-2004, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgica
I'm both surprised and not surprised that nobody are talking about how important your host is...

Then here is a free tip: your host is the key to success!
I cant explain everything now but its all about speed and how much visitors you host can handle!!!

Have you ever wondered why the most of the TGPs come up easy to 10k-20k of daily traffic and then stops?
The thing is that most of people is searching for best prices for hosting, thats why some people fail and other success!

Well there it is the big secret reviled

I know many will say Im wrong, u figure out why...

your host is not the key. it is a vital part.. but not the key

there are many keys.
design
ease of use
not fucking over the surfer
even a bookmark button is a key.

jimmyf · 06-13-2004, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgica
I'm both surprised and not surprised that nobody are talking about how important your host is...

Then here is a free tip: your host is the key to success!
I cant explain everything now but its all about speed and how much visitors you host can handle!!!

Have you ever wondered why the most of the TGPs come up easy to 10k-20k of daily traffic and then stops?
The thing is that most of people is searching for best prices for hosting, thats why some people fail and other success!

Well there it is the big secret reviled

I know many will say Im wrong, u figure out why...

good point, I have thought this from day one. See people all the time asking for cheap hosting

mrgica · 06-13-2004, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by hyper
your host is not the key. it is a vital part.. but not the key

there are many keys.
design
ease of use
not fucking over the surfer
even a bookmark button is a key.

really?

infecto · 06-13-2004, 10:49 AM

Unless you know the tgp market or are already running a working one its a waste of time. TGPs are overdone these days as in not a key part to money making. I run some but I don't promote them that much, I just use them on my domains that I submit galleries with just to maximize my revenue.

italianninja · 06-13-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by infecto
Unless you know the tgp market or are already running a working one its a waste of time. TGPs are overdone these days as in not a key part to money making. I run some but I don't promote them that much, I just use them on my domains that I submit galleries with just to maximize my revenue.

from reading the posts, i think that i should really start submitting galleries.

teomaxxx · 06-13-2004, 11:27 AM

you should.
just give a one month try to chameleon subbmiter and you will earn probably more then with your current TGP

strobi · 06-13-2004, 11:32 AM

get a real job for christ sakes! You're ruining your future! What are you going to put on your CV? I build PORN SITES so all my visitors could JERK OFF!! It was so cool!!!

get out now

italianninja · 06-13-2004, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by strobi
get a real job for christ sakes! You're ruining your future! What are you going to put on your CV? I build PORN SITES so all my visitors could JERK OFF!! It was so cool!!!

get out now

lol i was writing my cv the other day, and i was thinking exactly the same thing lol

fusionx · 06-13-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by strobi
get a real job for christ sakes! You're ruining your future! What are you going to put on your CV? I build PORN SITES so all my visitors could JERK OFF!! It was so cool!!!
get out now

I called it "consulting" :-)

FlyingIguana · 06-13-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by italianninja
I am so upset i brought 50k traffic in the hope of growing my site to a decent level of traffic thus earning some £££'s but it has all gone to nothing. the highest the sites traffic has ever been was at 27k now it is at 14k

i get told alot of the time, never give up, thing will work out etc. but for some reason it just doesnt seem to work.

i have tried everything to get traffic to the site. i need to start earning cause my overheads, for example hosting costing money that i simply have not got.

if anyone could help me out with my site then please contact me on icq 309196660 i would appreciate the help.

you're running a business, if it was that easy everyone and their dog would be doing it.

italianninja · 06-13-2004, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by fusionx
I called it "consulting" :-)

kush · 06-13-2004, 12:16 PM

At 20 years old you shouldn't be wasting your time on an unsuccessful TGP.... personally I would say cut your losses and get out.

.... or if you don't want to do that make 1 last good effort and if that doesn't work cut your losses and get out.

latinasojourn · 06-13-2004, 01:18 PM

if you want to make $ in adult web TGP is probably not best way to go because it is oversaturated.

what there is a real scarcity of is guys that can produce quality original content in an imaginative way---the cost of entry into making content is very low, but this does require some artistic or aesthetic sense, an ability to communicate, empathy, a way with the models, some facility with photography or DV, business sense, html ability, etc.

and if you want to shoot POV it helps to have the proper physique and a good dick...lots of guys shooting POV don't and it diminishes the product.

if you can do that you can sell paysites memberships and rise right to the top in short order.

06-13-2004, 10:23 AM	#55
Clovis Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 412	making moolah with a TGP is very tough. Pay attention to what Trixxxia says it is very good advice. Concentrate on the quality of your traffic not the quantity. All the Yugos in the world do not add up to one Ferrari. __________________ Thank God for little rebills www.jadecandle.com just fucking submit

06-13-2004, 10:25 AM	#57
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	give us a try, www.remotethumbs.com __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

06-13-2004, 10:36 AM	#63
mrgica Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,169	I'm both surprised and not surprised that nobody are talking about how important your host is... Then here is a free tip: your host is the key to success! I cant explain everything now but its all about speed and how much visitors you host can handle!!! Have you ever wondered why the most of the TGPs come up easy to 10k-20k of daily traffic and then stops? The thing is that most of people is searching for best prices for hosting, thats why some people fail and other success! Well there it is the big secret reviled I know many will say Im wrong, u figure out why... __________________ Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

06-13-2004, 10:17 AM	#52
ImLost Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,900	how could submitting a few galleries make you money if running a TGP with alot of your own galleries doesnt make money. IT seems running your own TGPS with rotated hosted galleries gives you more chance for $$$

06-13-2004, 10:18 AM	#53
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	Some of you guys are so mean. He's a no0b kid who is absolutely no threat to any of you. Would it kill you to offer some constructive criticism instead of simply squashing his hopes? I'm willing to bet he'd be thrilled with making $200/month and eternally grateful to those who helped him. Nice going Trixxxia (and I havent offered any help because I know nothing about tgps)

06-13-2004, 10:34 AM	#61
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	When you build a gallery or freesite yourself, and you want to know where to submit it, go to Google or some other SE and do a search on the niche of the freesite or gallery you'll be submitting. Submit to the link sites and tgp's that rank high for the term. And if you link to a niche specific page of your own site from the free site or gallery, all the better for you spider-wise. In addition, when that traffic eventually hits your trades, it will be more productive. Just keep factoring out "luck", and you'll do better.

06-13-2004, 10:35 AM	#62
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,281	give it up - to hard to grow a TGP now...... unless you want to wait 10 years

06-13-2004, 10:49 AM	#68
infecto Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,697	Unless you know the tgp market or are already running a working one its a waste of time. TGPs are overdone these days as in not a key part to money making. I run some but I don't promote them that much, I just use them on my domains that I submit galleries with just to maximize my revenue.

06-13-2004, 11:27 AM	#70
teomaxxx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,734	you should. just give a one month try to chameleon subbmiter and you will earn probably more then with your current TGP

06-13-2004, 11:32 AM	#71
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	get a real job for christ sakes! You're ruining your future! What are you going to put on your CV? I build PORN SITES so all my visitors could JERK OFF!! It was so cool!!! get out now

06-13-2004, 12:16 PM	#76
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	At 20 years old you shouldn't be wasting your time on an unsuccessful TGP.... personally I would say cut your losses and get out. .... or if you don't want to do that make 1 last good effort and if that doesn't work cut your losses and get out.

06-13-2004, 01:18 PM	#77
latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	if you want to make $ in adult web TGP is probably not best way to go because it is oversaturated. what there is a real scarcity of is guys that can produce quality original content in an imaginative way---the cost of entry into making content is very low, but this does require some artistic or aesthetic sense, an ability to communicate, empathy, a way with the models, some facility with photography or DV, business sense, html ability, etc. and if you want to shoot POV it helps to have the proper physique and a good dick...lots of guys shooting POV don't and it diminishes the product. if you can do that you can sell paysites memberships and rise right to the top in short order.