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italianninja 06-13-2004 09:14 AM

I am 20, have a tgp, and giving up hope that i will ever make this work...
 
I am so upset :( i brought 50k traffic in the hope of growing my site to a decent level of traffic thus earning some £££'s but it has all gone to nothing. the highest the sites traffic has ever been was at 27k now it is at 14k :helpme

i get told alot of the time, never give up, thing will work out etc. but for some reason it just doesnt seem to work.

i have tried everything to get traffic to the site. i need to start earning cause my overheads, for example hosting costing money that i simply have not got.

if anyone could help me out with my site then please contact me on icq 309196660 i would appreciate the help.

Marcus Aurelius 06-13-2004 09:19 AM

URL?

SpeakEasy 06-13-2004 09:21 AM

Cut your losses and get out of the biz before you get into to much debt. This biz is not for everyone, and a new tgp is not going to make you any real money (as you have found out yourself).:2 cents: :2 cents:

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:22 AM

http://www.cobrathumbs.com

HS-Trixxxia 06-13-2004 09:22 AM

Hi there Italianninja,

Quite frankly, we weren't very lucky when buying traffic - in fact, when we did, it was guaranteed we would lose money. I stopped buying traffic - I would modify the TGP to be up on the search engines instead. Granted this was 4 years ago and the site is still very small - however we don't trade traffic & our traffic is only from search engines. Since I have people argue with me when their IPs get blocked, I think they like the traffic too.

I say tweak it, let it roll by itself and in the meantime concentrate on other work to bring popularity to your site & to bring you income. Make free sites, make galleries or continue to build other TGPs - whatever will bring you money to keep afloat do it.

Use your head - don't put all your effort on something that is not bringing you in enough money. Find other sources & then go back to what you wanted to build in the first place.


Disclaimer: alot of people will disagree with the buying traffic & trading traffic - it wasn't profitable for us so we don't do it. If that's the route you want to continue - there are many people here that may be willing to help you.

Good Luck - if you have questions
93.086.586

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpeakEasy
Cut your losses and get out of the biz before you get into to much debt. This biz is not for everyone, and a new tgp is not going to make you any real money (as you have found out yourself).:2 cents: :2 cents:
i dont know what can make me real money. i got a few domains i would like to turn into pay sites, for example suckeesuckee.com and handjobbunnies.com, oralental.com but i dont want to do it alone, would like to do it with someone who has paysites, so i can learn something too and have someone who has the experiance.

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixxxia
Hi there Italianninja,

Quite frankly, we weren't very lucky when buying traffic - in fact, when we did, it was guaranteed we would lose money. I stopped buying traffic - I would modify the TGP to be up on the search engines instead. Granted this was 4 years ago and the site is still very small - however we don't trade traffic & our traffic is only from search engines. Since I have people argue with me when their IPs get blocked, I think they like the traffic too.

I say tweak it, let it roll by itself and in the meantime concentrate on other work to bring popularity to your site & to bring you income. Make free sites, make galleries or continue to build other TGPs - whatever will bring you money to keep afloat do it.

Use your head - don't put all your effort on something that is not bringing you in enough money. Find other sources & then go back to what you wanted to build in the first place.


Disclaimer: alot of people will disagree with the buying traffic & trading traffic - it wasn't profitable for us so we don't do it. If that's the route you want to continue - there are many people here that may be willing to help you.

Good Luck - if you have questions
93.086.586

could you help me out with getting listed on search engines?

ldinternet 06-13-2004 09:26 AM

Rule #1 - don't buy traffic from brokers, especially if you're inexperienced. It is SHIT.

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
Rule #1 - don't buy traffic from brokers, especially if you're inexperienced. It is SHIT.
the traffic i brought was not productive until the end. halfway through i contacted the broker and he was very kind and offered me a refund on the remaining hits that were left, but i refused because the traffic was feeding some trades i put into place.

HS-Trixxxia 06-13-2004 09:28 AM

I've clicked on 10 images and urls go to trades - very very clean site (in the sense that there are no banners) but why would your surfer stay if they can't find content other than beautiful thumbs?

Once they get to the other sites, after clicking 3 of your thumbs that went to other sites, I think they'll stay there.

That's my personal opinion. You need galleries for them to see and for them to stay. You need banners or more text links to your sponsors.

hyper 06-13-2004 09:30 AM

i never did well at traffic trading.

so instead i made alot of small tgp's.

that pays my bills.

i got into mainstream.

thats where i make my play money

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixxxia
I've clicked on 10 images and urls go to trades - very very clean site (in the sense that there are no banners) but why would your surfer stay if they can't find content other than beautiful thumbs?

Once they get to the other sites, after clicking 3 of your thumbs that went to other sites, I think they'll stay there.

That's my personal opinion. You need galleries for them to see and for them to stay. You need banners or more text links to your sponsors.

i like the cleaness of the site, i dont think many people click banners anymore.

the reason clicks goto trades is to try and build traffic. this is another problem i face :(

Jer 06-13-2004 09:31 AM

First learn how to get traffic. If you open a paysite now you'll fail.

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
i never did well at traffic trading.

so instead i made alot of small tgp's.

that pays my bills.

i got into mainstream.

thats where i make my play money

my tgp is a small tgp, but still i have been open for 4 months or so now and only made 3 sales

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
First learn how to get traffic. If you open a paysite now you'll fail.
this is why i want someone else as a partner. cause i know if i got it alone i will most probably fail.

HS-Trixxxia 06-13-2004 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by italianninja
i like the cleaness of the site, i dont think many people click banners anymore.

the reason clicks goto trades is to try and build traffic. this is another problem i face :(

italianninja......think about this - if you are trading most of your first outgoing links - where are you going to make your money? If the person starts getting jerked out to other sites as soon as he/she is in the mood.....+ you have nothing concrete to offer them, do you think they will buy from you? What is there to buy on your site?

BTW - let me clean out these 6k spam messages in my inbox & I'll turn on ICQ k? :)

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:40 AM

i dont know what you mean about icq and your spam? i got msn and yahoo messenger also! :)

David! 06-13-2004 09:40 AM

I have a couple of TGP's which only have around 5k per day in hits, but they pull in a good amount of money and do not take me any time at all...:2 cents:

Looks like you are at 65% to your galleries, I would raise that if you want your surfer to stay longer.
Also, I do not see any "Bookmark now" link and I also do not see your top logo, when I added the "Bookmark now", the amount of bookmarker increased 10 folds, it may sound stupid to people like us who know how to bookmark a site, but lots of surfer out there will not bookmark you unless they see an obvious link to do so.
As far as buying traffic, it's very difficult to find good one, so I would stay away from that for now.
Hit me up on ICQ or via email, I'll be more than happy to help you :)


Oh, I forget my last comment: "Never Give Up !!!"

hyper 06-13-2004 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by italianninja
my tgp is a small tgp, but still i have been open for 4 months or so now and only made 3 sales
sure

thats why i said.

if your host lets u run 50 domains
then open 49 more tgp's

1 domain 3 sales @ $30 per signup = $90
50 domains 3 sales @ $30 per signup = $4500

its the power of multiplying

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:47 AM

i thought about this but i gotta pay for trading scripts, comus thumbs etc. it cost money alot of money.

skinnay 06-13-2004 09:47 AM

i hear the chatang0 business will be booming very soon.

LadyMischief 06-13-2004 09:47 AM

There's no money in TGP. Get out while you can.

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skinnay
i hear the chatang0 business will be booming very soon.
the what business?

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
There's no money in TGP. Get out while you can.
what else am i supposed to do though?

MrIzzz 06-13-2004 09:49 AM

a few things that may help:


get more hardcore thumbs on there, theres just too many solo girl thumbs, and have more clothed thumbs. dont let every thumb be a nude chick.

maybe try a specific niche, because new general thumb TGPs dont convert as well as specific niches

raise the skim to 70% and above to gallys if you want better conversions

use brokers only to feed your trades not to make conversions.

get as many hardlinks on other sites as you possibly can.


4 months is nothing, if you can make it for a year then you'll have enough bookmarkers to keep your trades going if you plan it right:thumbsup

crockett 06-13-2004 09:50 AM

most of your trades seem to skim around 60% to galleries. In my experience sites that skim that much send traffic with bad productivity. However there are a lot of sites that use that skim but I can't believe they get a lot of book markers.

Personally I would set the skim to 70% and find trades with the same skim, you will have better traffic in the long run. TGP is a hard thing to get right and make money with. IMO your are probably better off submitting galleries under that URL , surfers will follow the url back to the root to see what is there. You will pick up more book markers that away if it's a clean site with a low skim.

On top of that submitting galleries will get you more income coming in faster than trying to grow a TGP.

Reak 06-13-2004 09:51 AM

give it up there is no money in porn

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
most of your trades seem to skim around 60% to galleries. In my experience sites that skim that much send traffic with bad productivity. However there are a lot of sites that use that skim but I can't believe they get a lot of book markers.

Personally I would set the skim to 70% and find trades with the same skim, you will have better traffic in the long run. TGP is a hard thing to get right and make money with. IMO your are probably better off submitting galleries under that URL , surfers will follow the url back to the root to see what is there. You will pick up more book markers that away if it's a clean site with a low skim.

On top of that submitting galleries will get you more income coming in faster than trying to grow a TGP.

i would like to start submitting galleries but i dont know where to submit them too! i could do with a list or mabe even a program that is free and good.

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reak
give it up there is no money in porn
i'll take that as a joke.

kelly 06-13-2004 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trixxxia
italianninja......think about this - if you are trading most of your first outgoing links - where are you going to make your money? If the person starts getting jerked out to other sites as soon as he/she is in the mood.....+ you have nothing concrete to offer them, do you think they will buy from you? What is there to buy on your site?

BTW - let me clean out these 6k spam messages in my inbox & I'll turn on ICQ k? :)

What Trixxxia said :thumbsup

I clicked on 5 of the thumbs and the only gallery I saw was a Lightspeed FHG, so no REAL galleries - why not make a whole bunch of your own galleries to fill your site and submit them to lots of other TGP's with your recip along with theirs, it may get you a little bit of extra traffic and you've got more of a chance of making a sale. I know you like the clean layout you have but why not make a rotating 'site of the day' review to try for extra sales from the front page - just a couple of thoughts.

ImLost 06-13-2004 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by italianninja
my tgp is a small tgp, but still i have been open for 4 months or so now and only made 3 sales
3 sales in 4 months!! holy crap, im starting the TGP thing at the wrong time too im starting to think.

Reak 06-13-2004 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
First learn how to get traffic. If you open a paysite now you'll fail.
LOL He cant make money with a TGP and he want to open a paysite?

1. Where is going to get the money from, his ass?
2. His paysite wont get more then 3 tgps hits daly

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Reak 06-13-2004 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by italianninja
my tgp is a small tgp, but still i have been open for 4 months or so now and only made 3 sales
Omg give it up dude.

My tip: Give it up.

italianninja 06-13-2004 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reak
LOL He cant make money with a TGP and he want to open a paysite?

1. Where is going to get the money from, his ass?
2. His paysite wont get more then 3 tgps hits daly

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

lol :1orglaugh

DamageX 06-13-2004 10:00 AM

It never ceases to surprise me how many people give advice without knowing the first thing about traffic trading...

Reak 06-13-2004 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by italianninja
lol :1orglaugh
Face the reality.

italianninja 06-13-2004 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DamageX
It never ceases to surprise me how many people give advice without knowing the first thing about traffic trading...
you are the man for traffic but i cant afford you :( if i could trust me i would book you.

4Pics 06-13-2004 10:01 AM

your site looks fine, what broker did you buy hits from? That would explain alot. You also said 50k hits, spread out how?

icq me at 5051691

cherrylula 06-13-2004 10:03 AM

here ya go,

Get Rich Quick

italianninja 06-13-2004 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics
your site looks fine, what broker did you buy hits from? That would explain alot. You also said 50k hits, spread out how?

icq me at 5051691

i am not gonna say who is was who i got the traffic from but i got 50k over 10 days

69pornlinks 06-13-2004 10:03 AM

start with freesites, learn about marketing, then do a little gallery submitting, tgp is only good for your interenal traffic...this is all i'm going to say

KRL 06-13-2004 10:03 AM

Buy domains with type-in traffic and master getting traffic from search engines.

The traffic you are buying from brokers for the most part is just worthless recycled freeloaders from thousands of others guys sites in the same position as you are. Its one big circle jerk.

italianninja 06-13-2004 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
here ya go,

Get Rich Quick

i was waiting for something like that to be posted. :Graucho

bdld 06-13-2004 10:06 AM

you could earn maybe 2k per month at mcdonalds with overtime.

italianninja 06-13-2004 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdld
you could earn maybe 2k per month at mcdonalds with overtime.
rather go work for pizza hut

crockett 06-13-2004 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by italianninja
i would like to start submitting galleries but i dont know where to submit them too! i could do with a list or mabe even a program that is free and good.
Well I don't submit that much as I hate doing it, but it is a good source of income. I use Chameleon Submitter and Confirmer which comes with a database that is updated every week. Unlike most of the other submitters. There are a few that are cheaper and maybe some that are free, but I don't think they can compare with the updated data base you get with Chameleon.

I think you should have done a little more research b4 just jumping in, but if you work hard you can make some money.

Video-Post 06-13-2004 10:08 AM

Hi, sorry to hear that. This business isn't for everbody but you shouldn't call it quits too early.

italianninja 06-13-2004 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
Well I don't submit that much as I hate doing it, but it is a good source of income. I use Chameleon Submitter and Confirmer which comes with a database that is updated every week. Unlike most of the other submitters. There are a few that are cheaper and maybe some that are free, but I don't think they can compare with the updated data base you get with Chameleon.

I think you should have done a little more research b4 just jumping in, but if you work hard you can make some money.

i always thought about using chameleon. might try it with the monthly subscription.

Tom_PMs 06-13-2004 10:11 AM

Quote:

start with freesites, learn about marketing , then do a little gallery submitting, tgp is only good for your interenal traffic...this is all i'm going to say
*Starting* by trying to own and run a tgp is about the largest mistake in the business I've seen in 5 years or so.

Build and submit 1 freesite and 1 gallery per day. Include a link to your main site (tgp) on every freesite and gallery. Repeat forever.

mrgica 06-13-2004 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by italianninja
i am not gonna say who is was who i got the traffic from but i got 50k over 10 days
well you already told us...
Can I gues? sexzity?


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