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Old 06-12-2004, 01:44 PM   #2
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Ok...

First paysites...for those of us about to release our first paysite..

What are the best peices of advice you have to offer us?
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:44 PM   #3
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What is the best thing to redirect hotlinking traffic to? ie. dialers, sponsors, ppc, blind click, tgp, full page ad, etc?
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:45 PM   #4
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Ok...

First paysites...for those of us about to release our first paysite..

What are the best peices of advice you have to offer us?
Good question!
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:46 PM   #5
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Why arent you and I trading sales
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:48 PM   #6
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:50 PM   #7
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:51 PM   #8
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not a question, just a comment

before you start praising exclusive content again, consider the small timers, that will mostly be in this thread.

anyone with very limited investment money jumping on the exclusive content bandwagon will lose money.

consider how much you had to spend to get it started, and how much it bothers you that people share it on P2P now.

good luck with the thread
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:52 PM   #9
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In ccbill the "form hits" is the actual people that pressed the cc or check ot ccbill 900 buttons?

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Old 06-12-2004, 01:53 PM   #10
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:54 PM   #11
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Ok...

First paysites...for those of us about to release our first paysite..

What are the best peices of advice you have to offer us?
Many tips here are important one

- Try to have at least 50% of your content be exclusive

- Update at least twice a week and get creative with updates to keep the retention going, for example you shot a movie with 4 parts dont just release it all in one update, release part 4 in week 5 but at the same time every update you start a new photo set or movie etc.

- Protect your content using DRM, to protect non members from being able to jerk off for free.

- If you are new to the business avoid custom affiliate script programs, you will find it hard to get affiliates, just let them use for example regular third party tracking and payouts.

- Dont judge how good your site converts based on some exit traffic or a gallery on easypic, test test test all sorts of traffic.

- If you are say in the S&M niche try buy member area traffic from S&M sites, member area traffic is the best traffic out there when you target your niche.

- Avoid popups, annoying for surfers and def wont help you get affiliates.

- Always offer a non recurring option, like 24.95 recurring 30 days, 69.95 non recurring 120 days etc.

- Use a back up biller
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:54 PM   #12
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How do I get rid of an exneighbor who has decided to post here and try to fuck with us?

Sorry it's not business related, but I would love your opinion.





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Old 06-12-2004, 01:57 PM   #13
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What is the best thing to redirect hotlinking traffic to? ie. dialers, sponsors, ppc, blind click, tgp, full page ad, etc?
Sponsor or FPA, try to sell them right there and then
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Old 06-12-2004, 01:58 PM   #14
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lol if the niches match sure why not, member area trade is always best
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:01 PM   #16
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In ccbill the "form hits" is the actual people that pressed the cc or check ot ccbill 900 buttons?

Thanks
yeah, I know its low but thats what im pretty sure it is

a while ago someone told me that its the number of times the form has been submitted not just loaded
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:02 PM   #17
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Why do white people like wayne brady so much?
cant stand him and im white

i turn my tv off when I see the avaya commercial
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:03 PM   #18
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Many tips here are important one

- Try to have at least 50% of your content be exclusive

- Update at least twice a week and get creative with updates to keep the retention going, for example you shot a movie with 4 parts dont just release it all in one update, release part 4 in week 5 but at the same time every update you start a new photo set or movie etc.

- Protect your content using DRM, to protect non members from being able to jerk off for free.

- If you are new to the business avoid custom affiliate script programs, you will find it hard to get affiliates, just let them use for example regular third party tracking and payouts.

- Dont judge how good your site converts based on some exit traffic or a gallery on easypic, test test test all sorts of traffic.

- If you are say in the S&M niche try buy member area traffic from S&M sites, member area traffic is the best traffic out there when you target your niche.

- Avoid popups, annoying for surfers and def wont help you get affiliates.

- Always offer a non recurring option, like 24.95 recurring 30 days, 69.95 non recurring 120 days etc.

- Use a back up biller
some good advice
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:04 PM   #19
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How do I get rid of an exneighbor who has decided to post here and try to fuck with us?

Sorry it's not business related, but I would love your opinion.


what are they posting

deoends what it os, sometimes best bet is ignoring
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:04 PM   #20
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:04 PM   #21
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How much would it cost to open a strip club and do different stuf for competition against other's. Where would be the best area to open it in ?
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:05 PM   #23
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in your opinion...

how much content should one start with when opening a paysite?

how important is the design/tour or the site?

if YOU have 50 000$ in cash, in what would you invest?


thanx EBP!
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He posted pics of are old apt. and of my car tag.


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Old 06-12-2004, 02:08 PM   #25
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the number 1 secrect is to know there is no number 1 secrect
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:12 PM   #27
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How much would it cost to open a strip club and do different stuf for competition against other's. Where would be the best area to open it in ?
Well really depends on state for example in NY just the liquor licence is 50-80K

Also how big of a place your talking about.

I know the owners of a local club he spent 200k and his stage holds just 7 girls.
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:15 PM   #29
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well there is no 1 secrect if there was I would tell you I share and dont mind others knowing anything.

its a combination of many things to make a site work.
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:16 PM   #30
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He posted pics of are old apt. and of my car tag.


I would ignore it and let it die off

there is nothing illegal about it so the only other way to stop him is to do somethin illegal and I highly doubt its worth it.
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in your opinion...

how much content should one start with when opening a paysite?

how important is the design/tour or the site?

if YOU have 50 000$ in cash, in what would you invest?


thanx EBP!
Def you want enough content so when someone joins they cant just view everything, ive seen sites where in 15 minutes you can see every clip.

I would say if you are niche start with 20 good exclusive sets and tons of filler content RELATED to that niche.

I am a true believer in simple design, easy to load, clear text and detailed tours not those 3 page lame tours.

I like to invest in things I understand vs. business I know nothing about, I keep on investing to build more niche sites and in mainstream in indusries that made me money in the past.
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lol I dont, its part of running a bsuiness paying taxes
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I would ignore it and let it die off

there is nothing illegal about it so the only other way to stop him is to do somethin illegal and I highly doubt its worth it.
That's what I thought. One day he'll get a life and leave us alone.


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What did you do before you worked in online porn(just curious, not biz I know)

Second, I assume you do a nice amount of sales as well...What is your reason for not having your own merchant account(yet) We have our reasons as well, just curious what yours is

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the number 1 secrect is to know there is no number 1 secrect
wrong, the #1 secret is work hard.
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wrong, the #1 secret is work hard.
that applies to any industry
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:44 PM   #41
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what do you think of the GFY sig market?

what do you think of the domain name market?

what do you think of the real estate market?

what do you think of the ebay market?


thanx again
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What did you do before you worked in online porn(just curious, not biz I know)

Second, I assume you do a nice amount of sales as well...What is your reason for not having your own merchant account(yet) We have our reasons as well, just curious what yours is

Andre
Still do the same its computer related.

Many reasons for keeping third party billing for sites involving affiliates.

We rather they pay and affiliates rather get paid by third party.

Main reason.

I did think about getting my own merchant accxount many times thou
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:51 PM   #46
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what do you think of the GFY sig market?

Some people that registered in 04 emailed me saying they will make tons of posts and for just 500 bucks will rent me their sig, lol, Id rather be in sigs of people that have a following or people who post normal stuff then stuff that pisses people off.

what do you think of the domain name market?

Most domains for sale ive seen are worth nothing, plus unless a domain is a one word good domain I rather save the money and spend it on marketing, most traffic online people click on links and im not doing TV or Radio branding and im not a TGP so I dont care that much about that. This doesnt apply to everyone and every business model just myself.

what do you think of the real estate market?

know nothing about it, maybe one day ill learn that business

what do you think of the ebay market?

lol Im always buying stuff there, great

thanx again


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why did you go with ccbill?
Back when I choose ccbill there where tons of billers,

WSB
Globill
where still around

to name a few

I dont regret choosing them, no way a biller can keep all clients happy, some people need to understand not everyday is a good business day and the biller is not the one too blame for everything.

Also affiliates seem very happy with them.

Glab I didnt pick a biller based on how good of a rate I get.
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been at get togethers before def nice
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its not that long but quite thick... apparently the girls prefer the girth
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