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Old 06-11-2004, 07:23 PM   #1
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All you Google Ad-Words Buyers -

Just got an email from McAfee:

They have a new product that may not cost you money, but will certainly prevent you from making as much as you were used to- here it is:

Dear __________,

Why wade through "sponsored" ads and links at the top of your Google, Yahoo!, MSN and AOL search results? Put some sanity back into your searching with new AdSubtract PRO 3.

Already a best-selling ad-killer, it's now an even smarter solution to annoying pop-ups, pop-unders, banners, rich media and sneaky advertising posing as legitimate content.

In seconds, AdSubtract PRO 3 speeds up your Web surfing?whether you're on dial-up or broadband?by wiping out those online roadblocks left, right and center.

Best of all, McAfee Security customers like yourself save 17% off the reg. $29.95 price for AdSubtract PRO 3 when you order by June 18, 2004.

What are you waiting for? Start subtracting those online ads today!

Sincerely,
McAfee Security

Continuation.........
New AdSubtract PRO 3 speeds up your Web surfing every time you go online!

? Kills pop-ups, pop-unders, banners & rich media ads.
? Silences annoying Web sounds & freezes unwanted animation.
? Manages your cookies, so that you're not tracked by advertisers.
? Hides your PC usage by erasing browser, search and document histories, as well as temp & cache files.
? NEW! Search Sanity shows the most relevant search engine results first, not messages from the highest paying advertiser.
? NEW! Filters out "contextual" text ads integrated into websites.
? NEW! Cloaks fat or offensive Web graphics on-demand with a simple right click.
? Offers 12 months of ad updates at no extra cost.
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Old 06-11-2004, 07:24 PM   #2
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Got the same email...
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Old 06-11-2004, 07:24 PM   #3
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Nice. Do they have an affiliate program? I could probably sell it with PPC.
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Old 06-11-2004, 07:24 PM   #4
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okay that is fucking stupid
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Old 06-11-2004, 07:25 PM   #5
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no way they can remove google adwords
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Old 06-11-2004, 07:26 PM   #6
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I think Google/AOL/MSN & all should probably push them lower in the results too :-))
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Old 06-11-2004, 07:32 PM   #7
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no way they can remove google adwords
I'm seeing a image of what it looks like with it on and with it off.....a site looking like Google was what they chose......trust me, I don't see it in the image.

I'm sure PPC search engines won't like it. The surfer can also turn off the animated images.

? NEW! Search Sanity shows the most relevant search engine results first, not messages from the highest paying advertiser.

Which means that Overture won't be very 'visible' right?


BTW - I won't be surprised if they start a ppc search engine that they will deem 'safe' on their next 'rollout'
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Old 06-11-2004, 07:41 PM   #8
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BTW...I just checked their site - I think at this moment it's only available to members - it's being offered as a tag on with spam killer. I don't see it if I simply choose to buy spamkiller without logging in......but this is the offer on the actual 'checkout' page.


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Get SpamKiller & AdSubtract Pro for $49.99
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:10 PM   #9
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Well, I used to have tons of ads blocked with a blacklist. You can download lists and ad them to your hosts file. Its not so important now that I have broadband, but back in the day all that shit was a real pain.
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:17 PM   #10
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Is this with McAfee or some other client?


I think the impact would be greater just because alot of surfers use it and trust it.
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:27 PM   #11
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need to find a way to redirect the freeloading fucks using this type of shit to a beast porn dialer.
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:36 PM   #12
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no way they can remove google adwords
correct,

I guess someone is going to come out with an advertisement hider for newspapers. I guess all those advertisements that people have to wade through when reading the paper will be just too much for them to handle now.

This is BS, when are companies going to realize they WILL NEVER be able to hide all the advertising on the internet. NEVER.

>BTW - I won't be surprised if they start a ppc search engine that they will deem 'safe' on their next 'rollout'

And I bet that they show sponsor listings as well. Through their own affiliate account. Rat bastards.
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Old 06-11-2004, 08:59 PM   #13
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This is bullshit, they should be sued for altering the pages of the search engines and taking away their revenue.

In fact, wasn't' there a case like that a while ago?
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Old 06-11-2004, 09:14 PM   #14
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I don't think there is any way in hell they could legally remove google Ad awards. I think that would be a lawsuit happening real quick.
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Old 06-11-2004, 09:19 PM   #15
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Well, the depiction of it on the email is the Google before there were sponsored listings or google adwords. In the image, it shows both - one with sponsored ads & google adwords and the 'CLEAN' one without either.
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? NEW! Search Sanity shows the most relevant search engine results first, not messages from the highest paying advertiser.

That's a bunch of bullshit....and I don't even buy PPC advertising.

As a surfer however, I know that someone who is paying money for clicks on a certain keyword is bound to have more relevant content to my search than the google spammer who happens to be ranked #1.

If their content wasn't relevant to the search, they'd lose their ass in a hurry buying traffic for those keywords.
Granted it's usually not "free" content but its still relevant to the search.

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Old 06-11-2004, 11:12 PM   #17
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? NEW! Search Sanity shows the most relevant search engine results first, not messages from the highest paying advertiser.

That's a bunch of bullshit....and I don't even buy PPC advertising.

As a surfer however, I know that someone who is paying money for clicks on a certain keyword is bound to have more relevant content to my search than the google spammer who happens to be ranked #1.

If their content wasn't relevant to the search, they'd lose their ass in a hurry buying traffic for those keywords.
Granted it's usually not "free" content but its still relevant to the search.

Exactly - but I guess a surfer doesn't know the difference.
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Old 06-11-2004, 11:33 PM   #18
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Bump for the Non-Raunchocomauncho (or whatever his friggen name is) fans
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Old 06-11-2004, 11:45 PM   #19
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Open those tool boxes and find a way around it guys.

How about amazon they will be pissed.
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? NEW! Search Sanity shows the most relevant search engine results first, not messages from the highest paying advertiser.

That's a bunch of bullshit....and I don't even buy PPC advertising.

As a surfer however, I know that someone who is paying money for clicks on a certain keyword is bound to have more relevant content to my search than the google spammer who happens to be ranked #1.

If their content wasn't relevant to the search, they'd lose their ass in a hurry buying traffic for those keywords.
Granted it's usually not "free" content but its still relevant to the search.

Totally agree.

This kind of software will only hurt the internet.
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Old 06-12-2004, 12:06 AM   #21
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Totally agree.

This kind of software will only hurt the internet.
Depending on its effectiveness, it may actually hurt Google more than the others. Kinda sad too cuz they're the cleanest of the bunch. The thing is that Google's setups is not annoying & doesn't really interfere with your surfing experience.
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Too bad its bullshit...there is no way for them to remove google adwords...they would literally have to have the program skim the html find where the textlinks/code comes up and block it out...its not like a banner ad where you can block the image or domain of the location of that image. What a load of bs not to mention its not legal.
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Old 06-12-2004, 12:17 AM   #23
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Too bad its bullshit...there is no way for them to remove google adwords...they would literally have to have the program skim the html find where the textlinks/code comes up and block it out...its not like a banner ad where you can block the image or domain of the location of that image. What a load of bs not to mention its not legal.
Maybe there is some type of code that shows it's sponsored - I don't know how they'll do it but it's what they claim & their samples show it without the ads.
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There's a noroton utility that also does this.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT... ks.html&tpre=
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Old 06-12-2004, 02:21 AM   #25
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i dont like it but i dont worry either
how many people are gonna use that?

i know 99,9% of the internet users won't pay
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I dont like that product. It will so screw up the internet. Are we forgetting that it is based on a commercial system? Remove the ability to make money and you remove the net!
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sponsors should not only track signups by cookies, its retarded
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sponsors should not only track signups by cookies, its retarded
More importantly - the thing the product does is stop the surfer from seeing it. The product won't show them the sponsor ads, ppc listings, animations, pop-ups, pop-unders and so on. If they can't see it, they can't click it, hence, they won't be tracked.


As for tracking, if the customer has cookies off, then we are still fucked - I think there should be something to track sales other than cookies too.
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