Why does everyone want a paysite ? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 06-04-2004, 05:40 AM

Before everyone wanted to become the next Hun, now everyone wants to become the next Marc De, or what ?
Or do some people feel that if they don't run paysites, they are "worse" that those who do?

In the past there were a few affiliate programs and thousands of webmasters who promoted them and respected their owners...
Now eveyrone starts a paysite and affiliate program... but i have no idea why?

There's money to be made in SE, TGP, whatever...and with a few exceptions ( see sig ) all the CCbill affiliate programs look basically the same so it's obvious that they won't be making huge bank...

Just some thoughts....

06-04-2004, 05:42 AM

It's assumed that paysites equal jumping to the next level. Unless you are able to produce somthing exclusive and unique, your content will just fall in with the rest of the pack. You're sometimes better off as an affiliate. It's less affiliate headache and you're not limited to a strict set of content.

Sylver7 · 06-04-2004, 05:46 AM

Maybe they believe that their traffic is worth more than sponsors are paying for it. I.E. Shaving

EviLGuY · 06-04-2004, 05:47 AM

I doubt I will ever venture into that side of things..

plyndrty · 06-04-2004, 05:48 AM

I have thought this but it is a need to me. I guess I want to lock in on all aspects of income from this biz. TGP, Traffic, Paysites, hosting, design,...Do it all, let no money escape.

I worked for a company that had all it's internal resourses. What ever one branch needed it got it from another branch. Once the money came from outside sources (customers) it would stay inside.

This is my goal

polish_aristocrat · 06-04-2004, 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
It's assumed that paysites equal jumping to the next level. Unless you are able to produce somthing exclusive and unique, your content will just fall in with the rest of the pack. You're sometimes better off as an affiliate. It's less affiliate headache and you're not limited to a strict set of content.

That's what i think....less headaches....and when everyone starts a paysite, then it cannot be called "jumping to the next level" anymore

monaro · 06-04-2004, 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Before everyone wanted to become the next Hun, now everyone wants to become the next Marc De, or what ?
Or do some people feel that if they don't run paysites, they are "worse" that those who do?

In the past there were a few affiliate programs and thousands of webmasters who promoted them and respected their owners...
Now eveyrone starts a paysite and affiliate program... but i have no idea why?

There's money to be made in SE, TGP, whatever...and with a few exceptions ( see sig ) all the CCbill affiliate programs look basically the same so it's obvious that they won't be making huge bank...

Just some thoughts....

I can never do better than Topbucks so I plan to promote them until i die

Dirty F · 06-04-2004, 05:53 AM

Look one can make good money with tgping bit eventually it is limited, you are simply not gonna make 50k a month with submitting to tgps (except for 1 or 2 rare exceptions) plus the day you stop submitting it will get less and less. Paysites makes it basically endless how much you can make and people will keep on promoting you, no money loss if you take a break for a week unlike tgping.

Its just easier and more money for a longer term.

polish_aristocrat · 06-04-2004, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by plyndrty
I have thought this but it is a need to me. I guess I want to lock in on all aspects of income from this biz. TGP, Traffic, Paysites, hosting, design,...Do it all, let no money escape.

I worked for a company that had all it's internal resourses. What ever one branch needed it got it from another branch. Once the money came from outside sources (customers) it would stay inside.

This is my goal

Yeah, this is something which deserves

But i meant those small Ccbill affiliate programs that always act so desperate to get affiliates.
If the affiliate program should earn only a few $k per month, then i'd rather earn that amount as an affiliate of other programs, without worrying about problems with customers, charge backs, burocracy, buying content, upating site etc.

polish_aristocrat · 06-04-2004, 06:03 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Look one can make good money with tgping bit eventually it is limited, you are simply not gonna make 50k a month with submitting to tgps (except for 1 or 2 rare exceptions) plus the day you stop submitting it will get less and less. Paysites makes it basically endless how much you can make and people will keep on promoting you, no money loss if you take a break for a week unlike tgping.

Its just easier and more money for a longer term.

But how should just another CCbill affiliate program with two teen sites convince webmasters to promote them...?
The supply of webmasters must be also limited...
And although i got no experience with paysites, i don;t think you can forget about it for a week...what about updating it, ensurign host is not down etc... I can imagine that if something happens only for a few days and you are not aware of it because you are on vacation, then customers who cannot access your site because it's down ( or are not happy, because the site hasnt been updated ), will simply charge back and this kill your site........

If i start a paysite one day, then it will care about it very much...i'd say that having a paysite brings more responsibility that just submitting galleries.

Dirty F · 06-04-2004, 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
But how should just another CCbill affiliate program with two teen sites convince webmasters to promote them...?
The supply of webmasters must be also limited...
And although i got no experience with paysites, i don;t think you can forget about it for a week...what about updating it, ensurign host is not down etc... I can imagine that if something happens only for a few days and you are not aware of it because you are on vacation, then customers who cannot access your site because it's down ( or are not happy, because the site hasnt been updated ), will simply charge back and this kill your site........

If i start a paysite one day, then it will care about it very much...i'd say that having a paysite brings more responsibility that just submitting galleries.

I know what youre saying and theres some truth in there but thats a matter of marketing, advertising and knowing what you are doing. The reason why im also gonna open a webmaster program is because of what i said earlier. The chances im gonna retire within 10 years are simply smaller when doing free sites, tgping, content etc and bigger with my own webmaster program. Its not guaranteed, i know that but personally i think it will make me way more money in the long run.

chemicaleyes · 06-04-2004, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Look one can make good money with tgping bit eventually it is limited, you are simply not gonna make 50k a month with submitting to tgps (except for 1 or 2 rare exceptions) plus the day you stop submitting it will get less and less. Paysites makes it basically endless how much you can make and people will keep on promoting you, no money loss if you take a break for a week unlike tgping.

Its just easier and more money for a longer term.

polish_aristocrat · 06-04-2004, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss
I know what youre saying and theres some truth in there but thats a matter of marketing, advertising and knowing what you are doing. The reason why im also gonna open a webmaster program is because of what i said earlier. The chances im gonna retire within 10 years are simply smaller when doing free sites, tgping, content etc and bigger with my own webmaster program. Its not guaranteed, i know that but personally i think it will make me way more money in the long run.

Thanks, i appreciate your honest reply and now i understand your point :D

Veterans Day · 06-04-2004, 06:12 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
But how should just another CCbill affiliate program with two teen sites convince webmasters to promote them...?
The supply of webmasters must be also limited...
And although i got no experience with paysites, i don;t think you can forget about it for a week...what about updating it, ensurign host is not down etc... I can imagine that if something happens only for a few days and you are not aware of it because you are on vacation, then customers who cannot access your site because it's down ( or are not happy, because the site hasnt been updated ), will simply charge back and this kill your site........

If i start a paysite one day, then it will care about it very much...i'd say that having a paysite brings more responsibility that just submitting galleries.

95% of my sales are internal, I forget about my site for a week, my updates are loaded for 3 months and updates automatically wed. and saturday. Its more responsibility but alot more profitable, in my situation anyway

KraZ · 06-04-2004, 06:25 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
95% of my sales are internal, I forget about my site for a week, my updates are loaded for 3 months and updates automatically wed. and saturday. Its more responsibility but alot more profitable, in my situation anyway

Yep, having a niche AND exclusive content is a GOOD thing most people don't appreciate. And they don't appreciate it because most of us are pretty straight-forward when it comes to sex so we tend to think everyone likes TEENS. WHich they do but they also like "niche" sites that cater to their more "forbidden" fantasies.

Veterans Day · 06-04-2004, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by KraZ
Yep, having a niche AND exclusive content is a GOOD thing most people don't appreciate. And they don't appreciate it because most of us are pretty straight-forward when it comes to sex so we tend to think everyone likes TEENS. WHich they do but they also like "niche" sites that cater to their more "forbidden" fantasies.

kmanrox · 06-04-2004, 06:31 AM

Paysiting is for larger fish. Yeah, every Tom Dick and Harry may have one nowadays, but the people with proper connections and maybe even more importantly plenty of startup capital will prevail.

It's survival of the fittest, plain and simple.

slapass · 06-04-2004, 06:43 AM

It might have something to do with the fact that paysites owners rock in "show your car" threads.

There is simply more money the higher up you climb.

Reak · 06-04-2004, 07:01 AM

Every fool can run a paysite. But do you know how to manage the paysite, how to get traffic and how to keep your members happy. Buying a bulk deal paysite content doesnt mean you're there allready, lots of big players have bought that deal allready as just an '' add '' to there normall content.

A low budget paysite wont make it in this Industry.

Most people think running a paysite is easy but isnt.

stev0 · 06-04-2004, 09:14 AM

Yeah, there's tons of paysites and affiliate programs out there now... but the competition is a good thing. It means higher payouts for webmasters, and better features.

06-04-2004, 05:40 AM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Why does everyone want a paysite ? Before everyone wanted to become the next Hun, now everyone wants to become the next Marc De, or what ? Or do some people feel that if they don't run paysites, they are "worse" that those who do? In the past there were a few affiliate programs and thousands of webmasters who promoted them and respected their owners... Now eveyrone starts a paysite and affiliate program... but i have no idea why? There's money to be made in SE, TGP, whatever...and with a few exceptions ( see sig ) all the CCbill affiliate programs look basically the same so it's obvious that they won't be making huge bank... Just some thoughts.... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

06-04-2004, 06:31 AM	#17
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	Paysiting is for larger fish. Yeah, every Tom Dick and Harry may have one nowadays, but the people with proper connections and maybe even more importantly plenty of startup capital will prevail. It's survival of the fittest, plain and simple. __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

06-04-2004, 07:01 AM	#19
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	Every fool can run a paysite. But do you know how to manage the paysite, how to get traffic and how to keep your members happy. Buying a bulk deal paysite content doesnt mean you're there allready, lots of big players have bought that deal allready as just an '' add '' to there normall content. A low budget paysite wont make it in this Industry. Most people think running a paysite is easy but isnt. Last edited by Reak; 06-04-2004 at 07:02 AM..

06-04-2004, 05:42 AM	#2
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	It's assumed that paysites equal jumping to the next level. Unless you are able to produce somthing exclusive and unique, your content will just fall in with the rest of the pack. You're sometimes better off as an affiliate. It's less affiliate headache and you're not limited to a strict set of content.

06-04-2004, 05:46 AM	#3
Sylver7 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: [206] Posts: 489	Maybe they believe that their traffic is worth more than sponsors are paying for it. I.E. Shaving

06-04-2004, 05:47 AM	#4
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	I doubt I will ever venture into that side of things..

06-04-2004, 05:48 AM	#5
plyndrty Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,477	I have thought this but it is a need to me. I guess I want to lock in on all aspects of income from this biz. TGP, Traffic, Paysites, hosting, design,...Do it all, let no money escape. I worked for a company that had all it's internal resourses. What ever one branch needed it got it from another branch. Once the money came from outside sources (customers) it would stay inside. This is my goal

06-04-2004, 05:53 AM	#8
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Look one can make good money with tgping bit eventually it is limited, you are simply not gonna make 50k a month with submitting to tgps (except for 1 or 2 rare exceptions) plus the day you stop submitting it will get less and less. Paysites makes it basically endless how much you can make and people will keep on promoting you, no money loss if you take a break for a week unlike tgping. Its just easier and more money for a longer term.

06-04-2004, 06:43 AM	#18
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	It might have something to do with the fact that paysites owners rock in "show your car" threads. There is simply more money the higher up you climb.

06-04-2004, 09:14 AM	#20
stev0 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 6,801	Yeah, there's tons of paysites and affiliate programs out there now... but the competition is a good thing. It means higher payouts for webmasters, and better features.