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serious · 06-01-2004, 11:22 AM

fyi go to jbm and search for grim and read the first thread on claims of what grim has been doing.

johnbosh · 06-01-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho
and do you still think so, after he fucked over wired guy for 12K and took off with the money?

how many of you know the story?

did grimshawn do this all alone? why did he turn to such methods if everyone thought he was so cool, and gave him so much "business"?

How many times did I tell you he was a shithead? how many times did I warn you about smokey?

I am not a bullshitter folks start paying attention....

wow 12k???

quiet · 06-01-2004, 11:23 AM

yep, it takes serious knowledge to post some quotes from another message board ;)

Digipimp · 06-01-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
yep - i lost all respect for Joesho in this thread

you respected him at one time?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-01-2004, 11:24 AM

Thanks for the response BP.
I consider Voodoo a friend and am very relieved there is no tarnishments on em over this.

Joesho · 06-01-2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by boneprone
Yeah we saw a problem a little over 2 weeks ago.
Voodoo broght this all to my attention for the first time then at a dinner I took him out to.. The moment he saw something was wrong he wnet to wiredguy as well..

The rest has been all of us trying to make sense of it and resolve it.

Voodoo has also since cut all ties with Grim on his board as have I.. Like I said, the webmaster community is very forgiving. If Grim makes an effort to resolve this Ill be the first there to assist him. But until he attempts to help himself first, no one is going to give this guy a hand.. Instead we have been fed excuses from him.

Im sad for his healt conccerns of his wife, I dont want to come off as an unsymathtic dick when it comes to his healt problems of his wife.. But until he makes an effort I have no choice but to turn my back on him..

He's put many of us in an uncomfortable position. Borrowing from friends, promising to open up programs, and then disappearing is not cool. Excuses are fine when backed up with effort, Im still wiating to see this effort.. The webmaster community is very forgiving Shawn when you bring forth some effort. You'll see some of your friends who seemed to have abandoned you come through if you make this effort..

The fact that Grim hasnt talked to Wiredguy in over 1 week also concerns me. Last I thought the payment plan was accepted and was underway.. I find it disturbing that it has not

well wich is it Mike, grimshawn is cool and forgiven for fucking people and will be accepted back in the family? or he is disowned? you sound like the friggin mormon church, repent and I will be there for you? is that it?

so why not payback wiredguy if you are taking ownership of grimshawns debts? step up , you can collect it in your own methods rememberr? LOL

anybody pissed at me cause I call bullshit, when there is bullshit that is just fine with me....

slapass · 06-01-2004, 11:25 AM

Can someone ICQ me the otehr board this was on

166708909

Digipimp · 06-01-2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho
well wich is it Mike, grimshawn is cool and forgiven for fucking people and will be accepted back in the family? or he is disowned? you sound like the friggin mormon church, repent and I will be there for you? is that it?

so why not payback wiredguy if you are taking ownership of grimshawns debts? step up , you can collect it in your own methods rememberr? LOL

anybody pissed at me cause I call bullshit, when there is bullshit that is just fine with me....

is this the same guy who said he wouldn't out the so called scammer if he just got his money now? maybe you're playing both sides of the fence too and all you care about it your money not helping anyone as well. boneprone didn't get that money from you did he? i didn't think so.

pradaboy · 06-01-2004, 11:26 AM

JoeSchmo =

Joesho · 06-01-2004, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Thanks for the response BP.
I consider Voodoo a friend and am very relieved there is no tarnishments on em over this.

Voodoo is not involved directly...

Voodoo has always done right by me, and I have heard the same about him concerning others too...

quiet · 06-01-2004, 11:29 AM

oh man

Joesho · 06-01-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by TGPslut
JoeSchmo =

thats funny, I think I made the point quite clear....

and guess what I do not give a fuck if you like it or not....

Bullshit = Bullshit

truth = Truth

you should familiarize yourself with this equation.....

SleazyDream · 06-01-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Alright, enough of you people have icq'd me to get a response out of me. First off, Joe, you have no right to air my business affairs on this board. You even quoted a reply I did on JBM saying that I did not wish to discuss this on a public forum. Second, you have the amount owing incorrect. To be honest, this really hampers my ability to collect on the amount owing from Shawn. In future, why don't you contact me or even try to collect the facts from me instead of Boneprone or other sources. Did you even talk to Shawn? At least get some facts from one of the two sides.

Next, I appreciate the support from those of you who posted in here, much appreciated. Like I said on JBM, I was financing a program that was to be acquired from DragonKing for Shawn to run; I was nothing more than the financier in this operation. The amount paid is not important and neither is the program name.

Lastly, a message to Shawn since you have not replied to my various means to contact you; by section 3(D) of the contract you signed, I have the right to collect my entire payment within 30 days written notice. I offered you a 6 month settlement agreement for the amount owing. I strongly suggest you consider the latter agreement or to speak with counsel about your payment options as I won't be very forgiving and your lack of replying to my emails and changing your phone number is not appreciated. Once again, EMAIL me Shawn to discuss your financial situation before this gets any worse.

WG

first class response to a shitty situation

born4porn · 06-01-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Dugmor
Boneprone has already said he will buy Grims debt.

big props to boneprone!

boneprone · 06-01-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho
well wich is it Mike, grimshawn is cool and forgiven for fucking people and will be accepted back in the family? or he is disowned? you sound like the friggin mormon church, repent and I will be there for you? is that it?

so why not payback wiredguy if you are taking ownership of grimshawns debts? step up , you can collect it in your own methods rememberr? LOL

anybody pissed at me cause I call bullshit, when there is bullshit that is just fine with me....

Again, perhaps you dont understand the nature of whats going on here..

The moment Grim thinks all is lost and he cant make it back into the industry even if he corrects this, will be the day he walks away and pays back no one..

If Grim realizes that yes, if he makes an effort to payback what is owed, steps up like a man and accepts his responsibilty that he fuced up and pays back and makes efforts to correct what he has done, yes people will forgive him..

Sure Ill forgive him if he takes care of this mess he created. I probably wont do biz with em personally anymore, but yeah I would help him.. If he made the effort..

But like wired guy and I have been saying all along.. The more stabs at him at the moment and the more and more he in his mind thinks that this is unresolvable the less and less likely he's just gunna tuck tail and run..

Im hoping that he stands up to his mistake like a man, admits what he did wrong and makes an effort to gfix what he has done and repay what has been done..

That in my book yes would gain my respect back..

Giorgio_Xo · 06-01-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by brand0n
thats class.

That sounds soooo Cosa Nostra.

baddog · 06-01-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by =^..^=
you never know what is happening in someones personal life
perhaps he needed the money real bad real fast

well, he did say he was getting married . . . . maybe he needed to buy a nice ring

cherrylula · 06-01-2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
oh man

the drama!! i haven't gotten anything done!

cosis · 06-01-2004, 11:36 AM

12k is definately not worth the cost of your rep

boneprone · 06-01-2004, 11:37 AM

The moment Grim thinks all is lost and he cant make it back into the industry even if he corrects this will be the day he walks away and pays back no one..

If Grim realizes that yes, if he makes an effort to payback what is owed, steps up like a man and accepts his responsibilty that he fuced up and pays back and makes efforts to correct what he has done, yes people will forgive him..

Sure Ill forgive him if he takes care of this mess he created. I probably wont do biz with em personally anymore, but yeah I would help him.. Forgive him. If he made the effort..

But like wired guy and I have been saying all along.. The more stabs at him the more he in his mind thinks that this is unresolvable. The public lash out isnt someing that is gunna help or give Grim an incentive to pay back what is owed, in fact its just gunna encourage him to tuck tail and run.. Thats not what we want here.. All Im saying is, yes if he makes an effort to payback and correct what he has done here, Ill be here to do what I can do to help him.

Im hoping that he stands up to his mistake like a man, admits what he did wrong and makes an effort to gfix what he has done and repay what has been done..

That in my book yes would gain my respect back..

sweetums · 06-01-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
first class response to a shitty situation

Well, WG is a first-class man.

I'm sorry that you've had to contend with any of this, Charles. Very sorry

Zoe_Zoebaboe · 06-01-2004, 11:40 AM

WiredGuy and Boneprone, I really respect you're maturity in this thread. It could have gone a lot worse then where it is now.

Thank you.

Ice · 06-01-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
if wiredguy was ready to bring this to the boards, he would have. bringing others people's business to the boards, especially when you don't even seem to have the full story, is weak.

if i was him, i'd be seriously pissed off. anyway, carry on.

Exactly... I don't know Shawn that well but I do know Charles. Charles is a pretty private person when it concerns his business. If he wanted it to be public he would have started a thread.

Joesho you had no business bringing a private business dealing to a public board period. I could understand if Shawn owed you money or you were involved in the business deal with Charles, but you are not involved at all. Do you think you were the only one that knew what was going on? This has been an issue for some time now and your post here makes me feel like Im 10 years old again and back in elementary school... "OOooohhhh Oooohhh I have a secret...wanna hear it"

pathetic

Just my

Joesho · 06-01-2004, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Again, perhaps you dont understand the nature of whats going on here..

The moment Grim thinks all is lost and he cant make it back into the industry even if he corrects this, will be the day he walks away and pays back no one..

If Grim realizes that yes, if he makes an effort to payback what is owed, steps up like a man and accepts his responsibilty that he fuced up and pays back and makes efforts to correct what he has done, yes people will forgive him..

Sure Ill forgive him if he takes care of this mess he created. I probably wont do biz with em personally anymore, but yeah I would help him.. If he made the effort..

But like wired guy and I have been saying all along.. The more stabs at him at the moment and the more and more he in his mind thinks that this is unresolvable the less and less likely he's just gunna tuck tail and run..

Im hoping that he stands up to his mistake like a man, admits what he did wrong and makes an effort to gfix what he has done and repay what has been done..

That in my book yes would gain my respect back..

so what you are saying is a snake can shed it's skin and become less poisonous?

I understand completely, that most of the people thinking that any legal recourse( when shawn is judgment proof) is gonna help, or that somehow shawn is gonna turn back into some saint is strictly fucking fantasy! if he had a chance in hell of raisinf g the money before this why did he do what he did? and how exactly is fucking someone else over to pay the first guiy you fucked benificial to anyone?

again I am sorry to say this charles, but all you can hope to get is a pound of flesh back... because you will never see a dime of that money.... that is reality!

sleazy, quite , be pissed or have no respect for me all you want, cause the people that matter to me understand that right is right, and I do not play the fuck around game to well.
if that is not you, and you can not see past hope for you friend to get his money back when you are making your judgemnts on me, then I bet you and me would not have ever done anything togethetr biz wise in the first place....

if I am not on this board cause I hurt some of the fakers reps then that is cool too, I will be better off for it I am sure...
I have principles, and that will always take a person farther than bullshit...

may take some time for the ones that do not understand collecting debts from people seriously to understand this, but those are the future people that will evlove this business, and those are the ones I look for to do business with.

WiredGuy · 06-01-2004, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by baddog
well, he did say he was getting married . . . . maybe he needed to buy a nice ring

On my penny? I don't think so!
WG

Honeyslut · 06-01-2004, 11:50 AM

Joesho needs a girlfriend to keep him busy.

CDSmith · 06-01-2004, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Joesho
so what you are saying is a snake can shed it's skin and become less poisonous?

I understand completely, that most of the people thinking that any legal recourse( when shawn is judgment proof) is gonna help, or that somehow shawn is gonna turn back into some saint is strictly fucking fantasy! if he had a chance in hell of raisinf g the money before this why did he do what he did? and how exactly is fucking someone else over to pay the first guiy you fucked benificial to anyone?

again I am sorry to say this charles, but all you can hope to get is a pound of flesh back... because you will never see a dime of that money.... that is reality!

sleazy, quite , be pissed or have no respect for me all you want, cause the people that matter to me understand that right is right, and I do not play the fuck around game to well.
if that is not you, and you can not see past hope for you friend to get his money back when you are making your judgemnts on me, then I bet you and me would not have ever done anything togethetr biz wise in the first place....

if I am not on this board cause I hurt some of the fakers reps then that is cool too, I will be better off for it I am sure...
I have principles, and that will always take a person farther than bullshit...

may take some time for the ones that do not understand collecting debts from people seriously to understand this, but those are the future people that will evlove this business, and those are the ones I look for to do business with.

There are times when it's good to know when to just shut up and let it go. For you, this was one of those times.

How any of this addresses the point that this issue wasn't your business to post publicly really escapes me dude. The others are right, you really do need to get over yourself. But I'm pretty sure you won't, you seem to lack the ability to take good advice when you don't agree with it, or the ability to just admit you fucked up and move on.

I don't get you man. On some topics you come off as right on the money, then on others you totally show as a twit would. You are a paradoxical fellow aren't you.

Joesho · 06-01-2004, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
On my penny? I don't think so!
WG

Charles, are you upset with me? or do you see my point in bringing this out?

Jman · 06-01-2004, 11:51 AM

ENOUGH god dammit.

Wash your own dirty clothes and let others dirty laundry alone. WG knows what he's got to do and he's doing it... He don't need no help from 100 GFY superman...

I spoke to Grim couple of days ago and I spoke to Wired Guy. Grim mentionned he fully intended to pay back... Now he needs to respect what he said and contact wiredguy.

For all of you's to discuss someone elses business is pathetic...

Don't you have a fucking job... Or your job is to play in someone elses sand box.

pradaboy · 06-01-2004, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho
thats funny, I think I made the point quite clear....

and guess what I do not give a fuck if you like it or not....

Bullshit = Bullshit

truth = Truth

you should familiarize yourself with this equation.....

you only outted this to get your cock hard monkeyboy!

It's none of your business... you had no right to take this public if none of the parties wanted to have it that way... WG clearly said it so why didn't you keep your piehole shut?

Sly_RJ · 06-01-2004, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
On my penny? I don't think so!
WG

Will you buy me a new headset?

EscortBiz · 06-01-2004, 11:58 AM

known grim for a while thought hes someone that would be respectful of someones money until he asked me to buy a banner on his board, after paying it was a total nightmare to get a hold of him and it was like 600 or 800 bucks.

Really pissed me off, voodoo took care of it over a month later.

He played many peoples head I guess, and I was almost involved in that deal that WG got involved in.

WG if I can be of any help locating anyone you need just let me know.

All the best

baddog · 06-01-2004, 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Dugmor
Boneprone has already said he will buy Grims debt.

that is a good/classy move on Boneprone's part

=^..^= · 06-01-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Actually, no. I asked to be contacted; not to air this on a public forum. Every stab at Shawn hinders his ability to seek employment in this industry and as a result on my ability to collect on his debt.

WG

I have to agree - it's hard to get your $ back if he gets slandered to the point that he cant even work in effort to pay you.

If he agrees to pay it back and works honestly and hard to cover his debts then that is a step in the right direction.
At this point in time threads like this dont help

if he 100% does the runner and absolutley refuses to pay it - THEN bring the guns out

..actually just thinking about it - I dont think this thread alone would do too much harm - think of how many "Hungrymman owes me $" thresds there's been - he still gets work

polish_aristocrat · 06-01-2004, 12:14 PM

Funny some people say it's not worth losing reputation for $12k.

If it was for $120k, you would say it's ok ?

Doctor Dre · 06-01-2004, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
i am goth

Yea your skin is definitly white enough

baddog · 06-01-2004, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by slapass
Can someone ICQ me the otehr board this was on

166708909

it has only been mentioned 3 or 4 times already

baddog · 06-01-2004, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
On my penny? I don't think so!
WG

hey, maybe it would give you some rights to the honeymoon video

cayne · 06-01-2004, 12:39 PM

Never heared of that story...but for sure that's asshole style...

scoreman · 06-01-2004, 12:52 PM

WG your restraint in this thread is pretty amazing. Man, I would have been hot to have my business aired on the boards, especially if it impacted my ability to colllect a five figure debt.

DarkJedi · 06-01-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
talk is cheap

not boneprone's.

brand0n · 06-01-2004, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Will you buy me a new headset?

will you send signup4cash your traffic

xxxdesign-net · 06-01-2004, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Alright, enough of you people have icq'd me to get a response out of me. First off, Joe, you have no right to air my business affairs on this board. You even quoted a reply I did on JBM saying that I did not wish to discuss this on a public forum.

Fair enough WG... but the thruth needed to be told before anyone else would get burned by the same guy...

However its true that maybe a Boneprone statement backing Joesho would have been enough without your name ever be mentioned...

StuartD · 06-01-2004, 01:16 PM

Joesho = sticking his nose in stuff that is none of his business.... again

Jeeze man, you really need to find something to do with your life that's a little more productive.

Anyway, props to Boneprone and WG... you guys are handling this very well... despite the total retard that Joesho is being.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-01-2004, 01:23 PM

The sad thing is I can tell they IE the parties involved put alot of effort into Grim.

From looks of it they were setting em up to be something big.
This is a sad story to unfold for sure.

Sly_RJ · 06-01-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by brand0n
will you send signup4cash your traffic

Are you sending traffic to Skin Traffic? If so, I'll send you traffic. It's that simple.

Doctor Dre · 06-01-2004, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
so if you got your money and he got employment then you would be happy and all would be settled and quiet so he could do it again?

IT's not likely to happen twice to the same person ... I mean when you pay somebody back 12 k $ ... you won'T do it again . paying it was a lot harder then scamming it .

Doctor Dre · 06-01-2004, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Again, perhaps you dont understand the nature of whats going on here..

The moment Grim thinks all is lost and he cant make it back into the industry even if he corrects this, will be the day he walks away and pays back no one..

If Grim realizes that yes, if he makes an effort to payback what is owed, steps up like a man and accepts his responsibilty that he fuced up and pays back and makes efforts to correct what he has done, yes people will forgive him..

Sure Ill forgive him if he takes care of this mess he created. I probably wont do biz with em personally anymore, but yeah I would help him.. If he made the effort..

But like wired guy and I have been saying all along.. The more stabs at him at the moment and the more and more he in his mind thinks that this is unresolvable the less and less likely he's just gunna tuck tail and run..

Im hoping that he stands up to his mistake like a man, admits what he did wrong and makes an effort to gfix what he has done and repay what has been done..

That in my book yes would gain my respect back..

Seriously ... it happened to me ... with the whole vegas bullshit . And now I get more and more orders every week from adult world . It's possible to repair dammage by offering a good service and beeing honest with people .

Dugmor · 06-01-2004, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
He did no such offer for me. Reread the thread that came from Dugmor, that was for someone else's debt, definitely not mine.

WG

You are correct WG, I was talking about money he borrowed using the family name.

Doctor Dre · 06-01-2004, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Funny some people say it's not worth losing reputation for $12k.

If it was for $120k, you would say it's ok ?

Sometimes you have no choices ... something push you in your life ... but 99 % of the time the people "choose" to fuckup

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boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	The moment Grim thinks all is lost and he cant make it back into the industry even if he corrects this will be the day he walks away and pays back no one.. If Grim realizes that yes, if he makes an effort to payback what is owed, steps up like a man and accepts his responsibilty that he fuced up and pays back and makes efforts to correct what he has done, yes people will forgive him.. Sure Ill forgive him if he takes care of this mess he created. I probably wont do biz with em personally anymore, but yeah I would help him.. Forgive him. If he made the effort.. But like wired guy and I have been saying all along.. The more stabs at him the more he in his mind thinks that this is unresolvable. The public lash out isnt someing that is gunna help or give Grim an incentive to pay back what is owed, in fact its just gunna encourage him to tuck tail and run.. Thats not what we want here.. All Im saying is, yes if he makes an effort to payback and correct what he has done here, Ill be here to do what I can do to help him. Im hoping that he stands up to his mistake like a man, admits what he did wrong and makes an effort to gfix what he has done and repay what has been done.. That in my book yes would gain my respect back.. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

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06-01-2004, 12:14 PM	#185
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06-01-2004, 12:39 PM	#189
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06-01-2004, 12:52 PM	#190
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	WG your restraint in this thread is pretty amazing. Man, I would have been hot to have my business aired on the boards, especially if it impacted my ability to colllect a five figure debt. __________________

06-01-2004, 01:16 PM	#194
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	Joesho = sticking his nose in stuff that is none of his business.... again Jeeze man, you really need to find something to do with your life that's a little more productive. Anyway, props to Boneprone and WG... you guys are handling this very well... despite the total retard that Joesho is being. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

06-01-2004, 01:23 PM	#195
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