(article) Quick Traffic Tip of the Day -- Generating Traffic via YAHOOGROUPS - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 06-01-2004, 02:53 PM

50 webmasters spamming Yahoo groups

Doctor Dre · 06-01-2004, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
50 webmasters spamming Yahoo groups

It's not really spamming ... it's making your own .

Btw great post . It was one of the thing I didn't really knew about

Doctor Dre · 06-01-2004, 02:58 PM

Never thought you could get dozen of thousands people to join them ... must be 90 % newbie traffic

Quotealex · 06-01-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by carbondream
i assume you mean my toplist:

http://www.groupsportal.com

I don't know what is this Rabbit Reviews!

Quotealex · 06-01-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
Any sponsor who won't take YG traffic is missing out.....

I used to have a shitload of yahoo groups, egroups (before yahoo bought them out), various clubs, etc. It's a great way to builda loyal targeted traffic base.

I've started re-building my groups and pumping them back up lately.

I always advise a moderated group as it's easier to deal with spam and illegal pics (the LAST thing you want is a questionable picture hitting your group). I also suggest opening a seperate group for each sponsor and talking to them about using their content to promote the group. If they don't want the traffic, fuck them and send it to someone who does...

I'm also looking into MSN Groups, but they are really full of spam and the sheer number makes it a little harder to build.

If you want to know some other dirty little inside secrets about yahoo group promotion, I'll have an ebook for sale within the next month or so (sorry, I can't take knowledge I've built tirelessly over the years and just give it away for free ;-)))

If your ebook is $10 or less, I'll order a copy.

mandrake · 06-01-2004, 08:37 PM

We had one of these a while back for one of our pay sites...the traffic was good and it gives you the chance to promote amongst the group and encourage them to actively recruit members. All was going well untill one day out of the blue yahoo nuked the group and all the owners accounts.

Might have to set up another one soon i think

$5 submissions · 06-01-2004, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Biggy2
didn't I come to you because I wanted you to do something like this, and you said your lawyer advised you not to cause of can-spam?

It depends on how you do it, Biggy2. This is the HASSLE FREE way to do it. CAN SPAM comes into play if the users don't opt in.

Contact me for customized help. We can do management/recruitment for mere dollars per day.

$5 submissions · 06-01-2004, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
It's not really spamming ... it's making your own .

Btw great post . It was one of the thing I didn't really knew about

Thanks.

There are also MSN groups, Lycos, and other distribution sites. Just remember to follow their TOS.

SykkBoy · 06-01-2004, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Thanks.

There are also MSN groups, Lycos, and other distribution sites. Just remember to follow their TOS.

yup, this is the most important thing...stay within their TOS

I made the mistake of getting a little too "promotion crazy" with some older yahoo groups and they went bye-bye (along with a decent, steady stream of income)

$5 submissions · 06-01-2004, 08:54 PM

Nice idea re ebook

Anyway, if anyone needs daily help managing/maintaining/recruiting for their group, we offer OUTSOURCED labor for only dollars a day.

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
Any sponsor who won't take YG traffic is missing out.....

I used to have a shitload of yahoo groups, egroups (before yahoo bought them out), various clubs, etc. It's a great way to builda loyal targeted traffic base.

I've started re-building my groups and pumping them back up lately.

I always advise a moderated group as it's easier to deal with spam and illegal pics (the LAST thing you want is a questionable picture hitting your group). I also suggest opening a seperate group for each sponsor and talking to them about using their content to promote the group. If they don't want the traffic, fuck them and send it to someone who does...

I'm also looking into MSN Groups, but they are really full of spam and the sheer number makes it a little harder to build.

If you want to know some other dirty little inside secrets about yahoo group promotion, I'll have an ebook for sale within the next month or so (sorry, I can't take knowledge I've built tirelessly over the years and just give it away for free ;-)))

$5 submissions · 06-01-2004, 08:55 PM

There is. Mycommunitymail.com doesn't censor their groups and is very adult group friendly. url is http://www.mycommunitymail.com

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Originally posted by serious
why does yahoo let you create adult groups, then delete them?

are there any other popular group creating services out there?

SykkBoy · 06-01-2004, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
If your ebook is $10 or less, I'll order a copy.

I haven't decided on a price yet, hehe
I'm concentating on making it a qualiy ebook too, not just a bunch of upsells like some of the ebooks out there today....
filled with real thourough knowledge and little tips and tricks that can cause harm in the hands of amateurs ;-)))

Suckitbitch · 06-01-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
NOTE: To view the full archive of all the helful webmaster tips/tricks we've posted in the past, pls check out http://www.webmasterlabor.com/articles/

Here's a quick traffic generation tip courtesy of http://www.webmasterlabor.com

+++ For informational use only. If you plan to use this advise, you agree to abide by all of Yahoogroups' rules and regulations. You also agree to abide by Yahoo's TOS +++

Usefull info would be where to find a handy dandy YG bot that will automate the joining, adding of links and can email the groups discreetly over a 24 hour period.

pimplink · 06-01-2004, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Never thought you could get dozen of thousands people to join them ... must be 90 % newbie traffic

And that traffic is good!

collegeclam · 06-01-2004, 10:35 PM

nice tip. i began doing it 3 years ago, which made me buy a domain....the egroups served as a trial - if i can get people here, ill make a site was what i thought.

basically, the egroups is pretty decent if you do it right.

cool that you posted the link this "tip" came from, should have some other interesting traffic material. thx.

sinkiss · 06-01-2004, 10:42 PM

that was a really good article. added it to my favorites so i could refer back to it. thanks for the tips and the link.

collegeclam · 06-01-2004, 10:42 PM

edit - the bitchnporn link isnt as good as i thought it was. it hasmany moderated groups that prevent members from posting messages, which arent worth joining. what you want to do is be able to post messages and add your link. knock down both tasks with each group and youll get some traffic. the more places your visible, the better chances you have of being clicked.

wdsguy · 06-01-2004, 10:47 PM

Very good info

HAPPYPEEKERS · 06-01-2004, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Jer
Thanks for the tips, $5sub and ListYourPorn. Great thread!

pure energy · 06-01-2004, 11:02 PM

And it works too!

woj · 06-01-2004, 11:06 PM

another great tip...

SykkBoy · 06-01-2004, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Suckitbitch
Usefull info would be where to find a handy dandy YG bot that will automate the joining, adding of links and can email the groups discreetly over a 24 hour period.

I might have heard a rumor or two about something like that in development ;-))

SykkBoy · 06-01-2004, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by collegeclam
edit - the bitchnporn link isnt as good as i thought it was. it hasmany moderated groups that prevent members from posting messages, which arent worth joining. what you want to do is be able to post messages and add your link. knock down both tasks with each group and youll get some traffic. the more places your visible, the better chances you have of being clicked.

I prefer moderated on most of my groups so I can control the content and spamming...I'll occasionally open a non-moderated group for discussion of the niches as well as the ability to promote other groups under different names ;-)

en1 · 06-01-2004, 11:31 PM

Well this article sparked intrest to actually sign up for a accnt. To much lurking for me. Anyways if any one is intrested i control ALOT of yahoo names with ALOT of groups signed up for them and utilites to easily mail the groups.....if you catch my drift ;)

hit me up if i could help you out!

icq:41203274

p.s. WOOHOO first post....welcom me!

TAMPA_TOKER · 06-02-2004, 12:32 AM

Great info $5 submissions 203 members joined my group in last 13 hours

Groove · 06-02-2004, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by ListYourPorn
another tip is to have two yahoo ID's - one to promote and manage your group through the second one as a back up moderater of your group, why? Well yahoo will shut you down for using their groups for porn if you are lucky they will just ban you ID like they did mine, trouble is now I have 4 groups with about 30K members which have no moderater.

So porn is banned under Yahoo Groups' TOS?

reynold · 06-02-2004, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by TAMPA_TOKER
Great info $5 submissions 203 members joined my group in last 13 hours

That's good news!

$5 submissions · 06-02-2004, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by Groove
So porn is banned under Yahoo Groups' TOS?

I believe OBSCENITY is banned not porn. There is a LEGAL (and BIG) difference.

Dirty D · 06-02-2004, 02:08 AM

I disagree that 9 of 10 Sponsor programs don't allow Yahoo Group Traffic.

We allow Yahoo Group Traffic.
All Yahoo Groups are Double Opt In, so there is not TOS problem.

http://www.HowIgotRich.com

Sambo · 06-02-2004, 02:20 AM

I was using groups years ago...... may give it a try again

OzMan · 06-02-2004, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by en1
Well this article sparked intrest to actually sign up for a accnt. To much lurking for me. Anyways if any one is intrested i control ALOT of yahoo names with ALOT of groups signed up for them and utilites to easily mail the groups.....if you catch my drift ;)

hit me up if i could help you out!

icq:41203274

p.s. WOOHOO first post....welcom me!

$5 submissions · 06-02-2004, 03:26 AM

Another tip: watch your profile. 1) must be over 18 and 2) no nudity unless its an ADULT profile (check your settings)

strobi · 06-02-2004, 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by TAMPA_TOKER
Great info $5 submissions 203 members joined my group in last 13 hours

800 for me since the start of this thread and 1 sale

ListYourPorn · 06-02-2004, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by serious
why does yahoo let you create adult groups, then delete them?

are there any other popular group creating services out there?

I ave met with Yahoo to discuss payments and we talked about the the newsgroups. I explained they were a good tool for online marketing yet they do not permit commercial gains to made from their service.

If they charged I would pay for my groups, surfers know how to use the functionality and know their way around the screen etc so it makes them dead easy convert into money spinners.

$5 submissions · 06-02-2004, 09:08 PM

If you're looking for newsletter/yahoogroups type traffic try www.mycommunitymail.com They don't censor for porn. However, all content must be LEGAL.

Bake · 06-02-2004, 10:07 PM

Are you going to offer a service that dose this for a fee?

ListYourPorn · 06-04-2004, 02:26 PM

Ive just added a toplist for those of you who have groups

http://www.smithslookup.com/toplist/index.php

Be the first ;-)

Greg B · 06-05-2004, 12:39 PM

This thread just made me an assload of money.

All I had to do was upload some toons to my groups and voila! Once I'm done figuring out what else is going on I'll post again.

9 times out of 10 I've gotten emails from group members and surfers saying how they liked the toon I posted earlier in this thread, that lead them to my site which lead to signups.

Members are cool but FANS are better.

strobi · 06-05-2004, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg B
This thread just made me an assload of money.

All I had to do was upload some toons to my groups and voila! Once I'm done figuring out what else is going on I'll post again.

9 times out of 10 I've gotten emails from group members and surfers saying how they liked the toon I posted earlier in this thread, that lead them to my site which lead to signups.

Members are cool but FANS are better.

Fans are the future for small time program/paysite owners. You only need a handfull of fans to run a decent paysite...

lilj · 06-05-2004, 12:42 PM

Greg B · 06-05-2004, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi
Fans are the future for small time program/paysite owners. You only need a handfull of fans to run a decent paysite...

Strobi, you just hit the nail right on the head.

It's what I've been saying ever since I got into this biz.

You don't need umpteen gillion people just anywhere from 500 to 1,000 loyal fans who'll pay you $10 to $20 per month minimum to make great loot in this biz. Keep your overhead low, satisfy your fans and you can roll on.

Some guys have 5,000 websites and don't make shit. Some guys have 2 or 3 and make a fortune.

It's about quality and communication. Plain and simple. That's where groups come in because it's like having an opt-in gallery and emal and newsletter all rolled into one.

I just found out you can make your own groups from your own website. Too techy for me but I'm sure one of you gurus can do this.

In the past 72 hours I have been on a big ass lucky streak. Stats are rising and overhead is lowering. I'll be debt free in a few days.

It's not like umbillion people are signing up for my groups. It's that the surfers are SEEING the group and clicking to the paysite and/or affiliates or linking TO me.

Fans. Plain and simple. Make your site 'Fan Friendly' and give them a sense that there's a real person there and they'll sign up and stay.

Just ONE promo toon did this all. It's always worked for me since day one. I'll do more.

If anybody wants to trade links for promo toons hit me up via email.

Rictor · 06-05-2004, 01:15 PM

You can always send your Yahoo group traffic to one of your own sites...a paysite review site or a full-page ad...or send traffic to your galleries. That way you aren't sending traffic directly from a Yahoo Group to a sponsor.

Greg B · 06-05-2004, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor
You can always send your Yahoo group traffic to one of your own sites...a paysite review site or a full-page ad...or send traffic to your galleries. That way you aren't sending traffic directly from a Yahoo Group to a sponsor.

Exactly! Lotsa options here. Be creative!

ListYourPorn · 06-08-2004, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dustman
I disagree that 9 of 10 Sponsor programs don't allow Yahoo Group Traffic.

We allow Yahoo Group Traffic.
All Yahoo Groups are Double Opt In, so there is not TOS problem.

http://www.HowIgotRich.com

Can youtell wegcash that I was getting over $300 per week but that kicked me off - But thats part and parcel of being a webmaster.

BTW I have wacked a toplist up now - http://www.smithslookup.com/toplist/index.php - its to complement my YGF - Yahoo Group Forum.

$5 submissions · 06-11-2004, 02:41 PM

Another tip, Yahoo has recently been killing accounts but leaving the groups intact. This is a big problem if your group site is a NEWSLETTER site or MODERATED. Always have moderators --the more accounts the better, so they can help you out when your creator account is killed.

collegeclam · 06-11-2004, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by serious
why does yahoo let you create adult groups, then delete them?

are there any other popular group creating services out there?

it may be because you place the adult group in an inapproriate category. all adult groups have to go in the adult/romance or something like that. i had a group a few years ago in the wrong cat, got deleted, had to start new one.

collegeclam · 06-11-2004, 04:14 PM

heres a similar tip that brings in a decent amount of traffic for me.

http://groups.google.com/

join. post. enjoy.

$5 submissions · 06-11-2004, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by collegeclam
heres a similar tip that brings in a decent amount of traffic for me.

http://groups.google.com/

join. post. enjoy.

Good post. Usenet still generates traffic.

collegeclam · 06-11-2004, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
I prefer moderated on most of my groups so I can control the content and spamming...I'll occasionally open a non-moderated group for discussion of the niches as well as the ability to promote other groups under different names ;-)

you know what, i was thinking totally different when i posted that.

what i do with the groups is much different. i used to have a group that had 5000+ members, and that was moderated. that got deleted. didnt take long to gain members since i had uploaded a nice chunk of pics myself and made pics available only to members.

but lately, ive been joining as many groups as possible, opting to recieve zero email, and posting to them all at once, maybe a few times a month.

inthestars · 06-11-2004, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Thanks.

There are also MSN groups, Lycos, and other distribution sites. Just remember to follow their TOS.

Groups traffic kicks ass. When Excite had groups, I owned 60 of them and got 60k of traffic a month from them. Those were the days! Like someone said, always have back ups!

06-01-2004, 02:53 PM	#51
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	50 webmasters spamming Yahoo groups Last edited by DarkJedi; 06-01-2004 at 02:54 PM..

06-01-2004, 08:37 PM	#56
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06-01-2004, 10:42 PM	#66
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06-01-2004, 10:42 PM	#67
collegeclam So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: philadelphia Posts: 239	edit - the bitchnporn link isnt as good as i thought it was. it hasmany moderated groups that prevent members from posting messages, which arent worth joining. what you want to do is be able to post messages and add your link. knock down both tasks with each group and youll get some traffic. the more places your visible, the better chances you have of being clicked. Last edited by collegeclam; 06-01-2004 at 10:44 PM..

06-01-2004, 11:02 PM	#70
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06-01-2004, 10:35 PM	#65
collegeclam So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: philadelphia Posts: 239	nice tip. i began doing it 3 years ago, which made me buy a domain....the egroups served as a trial - if i can get people here, ill make a site was what i thought. basically, the egroups is pretty decent if you do it right. cool that you posted the link this "tip" came from, should have some other interesting traffic material. thx.

06-01-2004, 10:47 PM	#68
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06-01-2004, 11:06 PM	#71
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	another great tip... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

06-01-2004, 11:31 PM	#74
en1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 858	Well this article sparked intrest to actually sign up for a accnt. To much lurking for me. Anyways if any one is intrested i control ALOT of yahoo names with ALOT of groups signed up for them and utilites to easily mail the groups.....if you catch my drift ;) hit me up if i could help you out! icq:41203274 p.s. WOOHOO first post....welcom me!

06-02-2004, 12:32 AM	#75
TAMPA_TOKER So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tampa Bay Florida Posts: 1,907	Great info $5 submissions 203 members joined my group in last 13 hours

06-02-2004, 02:08 AM	#79
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06-02-2004, 02:20 AM	#80
Sambo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,187	I was using groups years ago...... may give it a try again

06-02-2004, 03:26 AM	#82
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Another tip: watch your profile. 1) must be over 18 and 2) no nudity unless its an ADULT profile (check your settings) __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

06-02-2004, 09:08 PM	#85
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06-02-2004, 10:07 PM	#86
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06-04-2004, 02:26 PM	#87
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06-05-2004, 12:39 PM	#88
Greg B So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: EARTH (for the time being) Posts: 7,014	This thread just made me an assload of money. All I had to do was upload some toons to my groups and voila! Once I'm done figuring out what else is going on I'll post again. 9 times out of 10 I've gotten emails from group members and surfers saying how they liked the toon I posted earlier in this thread, that lead them to my site which lead to signups. Members are cool but FANS are better.

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06-05-2004, 01:15 PM	#92
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	You can always send your Yahoo group traffic to one of your own sites...a paysite review site or a full-page ad...or send traffic to your galleries. That way you aren't sending traffic directly from a Yahoo Group to a sponsor.

06-11-2004, 02:41 PM	#95
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Another tip, Yahoo has recently been killing accounts but leaving the groups intact. This is a big problem if your group site is a NEWSLETTER site or MODERATED. Always have moderators --the more accounts the better, so they can help you out when your creator account is killed. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

06-11-2004, 04:14 PM	#97
collegeclam So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: philadelphia Posts: 239	heres a similar tip that brings in a decent amount of traffic for me. http://groups.google.com/ join. post. enjoy.