Originally posted by DarkJedi 50 webmasters spamming Yahoo groups
It's not really spamming ... it's making your own .
Btw great post . It was one of the thing I didn't really knew about
Originally posted by rayadp05
I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
Never thought you could get dozen of thousands people to join them ... must be 90 % newbie traffic
Originally posted by rayadp05
I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?
Originally posted by SykkBoy2 Any sponsor who won't take YG traffic is missing out.....
I used to have a shitload of yahoo groups, egroups (before yahoo bought them out), various clubs, etc. It's a great way to builda loyal targeted traffic base.
I've started re-building my groups and pumping them back up lately.
I always advise a moderated group as it's easier to deal with spam and illegal pics (the LAST thing you want is a questionable picture hitting your group). I also suggest opening a seperate group for each sponsor and talking to them about using their content to promote the group. If they don't want the traffic, fuck them and send it to someone who does...
I'm also looking into MSN Groups, but they are really full of spam and the sheer number makes it a little harder to build.
If you want to know some other dirty little inside secrets about yahoo group promotion, I'll have an ebook for sale within the next month or so (sorry, I can't take knowledge I've built tirelessly over the years and just give it away for free ;-)))
We had one of these a while back for one of our pay sites...the traffic was good and it gives you the chance to promote amongst the group and encourage them to actively recruit members. All was going well untill one day out of the blue yahoo nuked the group and all the owners accounts.
Originally posted by Biggy2 didn't I come to you because I wanted you to do something like this, and you said your lawyer advised you not to cause of can-spam?
It depends on how you do it, Biggy2. This is the HASSLE FREE way to do it. CAN SPAM comes into play if the users don't opt in.
Contact me for customized help. We can do management/recruitment for mere dollars per day.
There are also MSN groups, Lycos, and other distribution sites. Just remember to follow their TOS.
yup, this is the most important thing...stay within their TOS
I made the mistake of getting a little too "promotion crazy" with some older yahoo groups and they went bye-bye (along with a decent, steady stream of income)
Anyway, if anyone needs daily help managing/maintaining/recruiting for their group, we offer OUTSOURCED labor for only dollars a day.
Originally posted by SykkBoy2 Any sponsor who won't take YG traffic is missing out.....
I used to have a shitload of yahoo groups, egroups (before yahoo bought them out), various clubs, etc. It's a great way to builda loyal targeted traffic base.
I've started re-building my groups and pumping them back up lately.
I always advise a moderated group as it's easier to deal with spam and illegal pics (the LAST thing you want is a questionable picture hitting your group). I also suggest opening a seperate group for each sponsor and talking to them about using their content to promote the group. If they don't want the traffic, fuck them and send it to someone who does...
I'm also looking into MSN Groups, but they are really full of spam and the sheer number makes it a little harder to build.
If you want to know some other dirty little inside secrets about yahoo group promotion, I'll have an ebook for sale within the next month or so (sorry, I can't take knowledge I've built tirelessly over the years and just give it away for free ;-)))
Originally posted by Alex from Montreal If your ebook is $10 or less, I'll order a copy.
I haven't decided on a price yet, hehe
I'm concentating on making it a qualiy ebook too, not just a bunch of upsells like some of the ebooks out there today....
filled with real thourough knowledge and little tips and tricks that can cause harm in the hands of amateurs ;-)))
Originally posted by $5 submissions NOTE: To view the full archive of all the helful webmaster tips/tricks we've posted in the past, pls check out http://www.webmasterlabor.com/articles/
+++ For informational use only. If you plan to use this advise, you agree to abide by all of Yahoogroups' rules and regulations. You also agree to abide by Yahoo's TOS +++
Usefull info would be where to find a handy dandy YG bot that will automate the joining, adding of links and can email the groups discreetly over a 24 hour period.
nice tip. i began doing it 3 years ago, which made me buy a domain....the egroups served as a trial - if i can get people here, ill make a site was what i thought.
basically, the egroups is pretty decent if you do it right.
cool that you posted the link this "tip" came from, should have some other interesting traffic material. thx.
edit - the bitchnporn link isnt as good as i thought it was. it hasmany moderated groups that prevent members from posting messages, which arent worth joining. what you want to do is be able to post messages and add your link. knock down both tasks with each group and youll get some traffic. the more places your visible, the better chances you have of being clicked.
Originally posted by Suckitbitch Usefull info would be where to find a handy dandy YG bot that will automate the joining, adding of links and can email the groups discreetly over a 24 hour period.
I might have heard a rumor or two about something like that in development ;-))
Originally posted by collegeclam edit - the bitchnporn link isnt as good as i thought it was. it hasmany moderated groups that prevent members from posting messages, which arent worth joining. what you want to do is be able to post messages and add your link. knock down both tasks with each group and youll get some traffic. the more places your visible, the better chances you have of being clicked.
I prefer moderated on most of my groups so I can control the content and spamming...I'll occasionally open a non-moderated group for discussion of the niches as well as the ability to promote other groups under different names ;-)
Well this article sparked intrest to actually sign up for a accnt. To much lurking for me. Anyways if any one is intrested i control ALOT of yahoo names with ALOT of groups signed up for them and utilites to easily mail the groups.....if you catch my drift ;)
Originally posted by ListYourPorn another tip is to have two yahoo ID's - one to promote and manage your group through the second one as a back up moderater of your group, why? Well yahoo will shut you down for using their groups for porn if you are lucky they will just ban you ID like they did mine, trouble is now I have 4 groups with about 30K members which have no moderater.
Originally posted by en1 Well this article sparked intrest to actually sign up for a accnt. To much lurking for me. Anyways if any one is intrested i control ALOT of yahoo names with ALOT of groups signed up for them and utilites to easily mail the groups.....if you catch my drift ;)
Originally posted by serious why does yahoo let you create adult groups, then delete them?
are there any other popular group creating services out there?
I ave met with Yahoo to discuss payments and we talked about the the newsgroups. I explained they were a good tool for online marketing yet they do not permit commercial gains to made from their service.
If they charged I would pay for my groups, surfers know how to use the functionality and know their way around the screen etc so it makes them dead easy convert into money spinners.
All I had to do was upload some toons to my groups and voila! Once I'm done figuring out what else is going on I'll post again.
9 times out of 10 I've gotten emails from group members and surfers saying how they liked the toon I posted earlier in this thread, that lead them to my site which lead to signups.
Originally posted by Greg B This thread just made me an assload of money.
All I had to do was upload some toons to my groups and voila! Once I'm done figuring out what else is going on I'll post again.
9 times out of 10 I've gotten emails from group members and surfers saying how they liked the toon I posted earlier in this thread, that lead them to my site which lead to signups.
Members are cool but FANS are better.
Fans are the future for small time program/paysite owners. You only need a handfull of fans to run a decent paysite...
Originally posted by strobi Fans are the future for small time program/paysite owners. You only need a handfull of fans to run a decent paysite...
Strobi, you just hit the nail right on the head.
It's what I've been saying ever since I got into this biz.
You don't need umpteen gillion people just anywhere from 500 to 1,000 loyal fans who'll pay you $10 to $20 per month minimum to make great loot in this biz. Keep your overhead low, satisfy your fans and you can roll on.
Some guys have 5,000 websites and don't make shit. Some guys have 2 or 3 and make a fortune.
It's about quality and communication. Plain and simple. That's where groups come in because it's like having an opt-in gallery and emal and newsletter all rolled into one.
I just found out you can make your own groups from your own website. Too techy for me but I'm sure one of you gurus can do this.
In the past 72 hours I have been on a big ass lucky streak. Stats are rising and overhead is lowering. I'll be debt free in a few days.
It's not like umbillion people are signing up for my groups. It's that the surfers are SEEING the group and clicking to the paysite and/or affiliates or linking TO me.
Fans. Plain and simple. Make your site 'Fan Friendly' and give them a sense that there's a real person there and they'll sign up and stay.
Just ONE promo toon did this all. It's always worked for me since day one. I'll do more.
If anybody wants to trade links for promo toons hit me up via email.
You can always send your Yahoo group traffic to one of your own sites...a paysite review site or a full-page ad...or send traffic to your galleries. That way you aren't sending traffic directly from a Yahoo Group to a sponsor.
Originally posted by Rictor You can always send your Yahoo group traffic to one of your own sites...a paysite review site or a full-page ad...or send traffic to your galleries. That way you aren't sending traffic directly from a Yahoo Group to a sponsor.
Another tip, Yahoo has recently been killing accounts but leaving the groups intact. This is a big problem if your group site is a NEWSLETTER site or MODERATED. Always have moderators --the more accounts the better, so they can help you out when your creator account is killed.
Originally posted by serious why does yahoo let you create adult groups, then delete them?
are there any other popular group creating services out there?
it may be because you place the adult group in an inapproriate category. all adult groups have to go in the adult/romance or something like that. i had a group a few years ago in the wrong cat, got deleted, had to start new one.
Originally posted by SykkBoy2 I prefer moderated on most of my groups so I can control the content and spamming...I'll occasionally open a non-moderated group for discussion of the niches as well as the ability to promote other groups under different names ;-)
you know what, i was thinking totally different when i posted that.
what i do with the groups is much different. i used to have a group that had 5000+ members, and that was moderated. that got deleted. didnt take long to gain members since i had uploaded a nice chunk of pics myself and made pics available only to members.
but lately, ive been joining as many groups as possible, opting to recieve zero email, and posting to them all at once, maybe a few times a month.
There are also MSN groups, Lycos, and other distribution sites. Just remember to follow their TOS.
Groups traffic kicks ass. When Excite had groups, I owned 60 of them and got 60k of traffic a month from them. Those were the days! Like someone said, always have back ups!
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