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baddog · 05-30-2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Bush's Resume So Far

Don't tell me why he isn't that bad. Tell me why you want him in office for another term. Tell me why he is the BEST choice.

Elli, I like you, but to be honest, who we elect as President really isn't any of your business.

and no, I am not planning on voting for him, but if I hear one more opinion from someone that is not a registered voter, I may be forced to do so just to shut them up

ehulk81 · 05-30-2004, 10:11 PM

terrorists pigs should all die but ya know what bush is no better

Elli · 05-30-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
Elli, I like you, but to be honest, who we elect as President really isn't any of your business.

and no, I am not planning on voting for him, but if I hear one more opinion from someone that is not a registered voter, I may be forced to do so just to shut them up

Give me a break. I may not hold a voter's card, but to suggest that who the holds the presidency of the United States doesn't affect me or anyone else living in close proximity is ridiculous. It is in my vested interest to do what I can to make sure Bush doesn't secure the position for another year.

If you can convince me otherwise, I am all ears.

baddog · 05-30-2004, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
It is in my vested interest to do what I can to make sure Bush doesn't secure the position for another year.

Well, you just gave him another vote.

What would you do if we started slamming Socialism? I mean, you guys are close enough that it effects us, so knock it off.

And cut down on the alcohol percentage in your beer, and criminalize pot. . . having so many drunk stoners close to our border is just not safe for our National security.

Elli · 05-30-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
Well, you just gave him another vote.

What would you do if we started slamming Socialism? I mean, you guys are close enough that it effects us, so knock it off.

And cut down on the alcohol percentage in your beer, and criminalize pot. . . having so many drunk stoners close to our border is just not safe for our National security.

Yes, it does work both ways. I never said it didn't. You must admit, though, that the United States is the premiere power in the world, with no competition in sight. Yes, Canada has problems. But you still haven't convinced me that I have no right to care who your president is. Stick to the subject at hand.

pimplink · 05-30-2004, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Give me a break. I may not hold a voter's card, but to suggest that who the holds the presidency of the United States doesn't affect me or anyone else living in close proximity is ridiculous. It is in my vested interest to do what I can to make sure Bush doesn't secure the position for another year.

If you can convince me otherwise, I am all ears.

Please don't change your mind!

baddog · 05-30-2004, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Yes, it does work both ways. I never said it didn't. You must admit, though, that the United States is the premiere power in the world, with no competition in sight. Yes, Canada has problems. But you still haven't convinced me that I have no right to care who your president is. Stick to the subject at hand.

For the same reasons you don't have the right to pass judgment on your next door neighbors, and how they run their family.

Maybe the wife runs things, maybe the husband. It is their business, not yours. That simple.

Elli · 05-30-2004, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
For the same reasons you don't have the right to pass judgment on your next door neighbors, and how they run their family.

Maybe the wife runs things, maybe the husband. It is their business, not yours. That simple.

If my neighbours made decisions that would affect my own family's security, then damn right I would pass judgement and even get involved.

baddog · 05-30-2004, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
If my neighbours made decisions that would affect my own family's security, then damn right I would pass judgement and even get involved.

oh, is someone threatening to attack Canada? I had not heard. I don't think you have anything to worry about as long as you stay in your own yard. No one is going to confuse you with being an ally.

Elli · 05-30-2004, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
oh, is someone threatening to attack Canada? I had not heard. I don't think you have anything to worry about as long as you stay in your own yard. No one is going to confuse you with being an ally.

There is more afoot than military matters. I do not refer to a direct attack on Canada. But if someone were to attack the United States and were in any way successful, then the world's "longest undefended border" would be just that.

Of course there are also environmental issues, trade issues, economic issues (our dollar depends heavily on yours), and many other things involved.

baddog · 05-30-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
But if someone were to attack the United States and were in any way successful, then the world's "longest undefended border" would be just that.

oh, and we should be worried about whether or not Canada would be safe should the US be attacked? Please tell me you are kidding.

So, you have no National defense budget because we are like the big brother that keeps others from picking on you. Well, perhpas you should act like you appreciate the big brother instead of ganging up on him.

As far as the exchange rate for the USD, and how it effects your income, I really don't care. It is not like it benefits us for you to get $1.65 instead of $1.30

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Elli · 05-30-2004, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
oh, and we should be worried about whether or not Canada would be safe should the US be attacked? Please tell me you are kidding.

So, you have no National defense budget because we are like the big brother that keeps others from picking on you. Well, perhpas you should act like you appreciate the big brother instead of ganging up on him.

As far as the exchange rate for the USD, and how it effects your income, I really don't care. It is not like it benefits us for you to get $1.65 instead of $1.30

Who is ganging up on the big brother? If you are referring to the general opinion of the rest of the world, whose fault is that but George Bush and his administration's choices?

Your second paragraph is irrelevant to the argument. You are trying to convince me that I shouldn't care who your president is, remember?

baddog · 05-30-2004, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Who is ganging up on the big brother? If you are referring to the general opinion of the rest of the world, whose fault is that but George Bush and his administration's choices?

Your second paragraph is irrelevant to the argument. You are trying to convince me that I shouldn't care who your president is, remember?

The Canadian press and most of the Canadians on this board seem to have jumped on the bash America bandwagon. . . . and the second paragraph is in response to your concern that the world's "longest undefended border" would be just that. Your comment, not mine

Elli · 05-30-2004, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
The Canadian press and most of the Canadians on this board seem to have jumped on the bash America bandwagon. . . . and the second paragraph is in response to your concern that the world's "longest undefended border" would be just that. Your comment, not mine

My bad, I meant your third paragraph about the exchange rate. Sorry about that.

I haven't jumped on any bandwagon. I was "for" the war at first, but have soured on it since it has been put into action.

Would there even be a bandwagon if people didn't feel strongly that it was neccessary to remove Bush from power?

BlingDaddy · 05-30-2004, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
So as long as the air and water is toxic, a man lies to invade countries, multiple violations of the Geneva Convention, wiping his ass with the constitution, energy prices out of control, its all okay as long as you are able to make your $20 a day in porn. Fuck off dickwad.

You're a tree huggin hippee.

People like you are against drilling for oil in Alaska. I've been there. It sucks..

Why don't you explain the Geneva Convention to the 18,000 Kurds who were gassed by Saddam Hussein and the 3,000 plus dead Americans in the WTC. That's 20,000 reason to invade any country the US thinks is terrorist. SO

If energy prices are so out of control work 2 extra hours at Burger King to pay for your gas. This is Memorial Day weekend so instead of complaining about energy and toxic water, why don't you hug a veteran? You won't... you're too busy slathering Patchouli oil on and tightening your Birkenstocks. Before you get you dreadlocks in a bundle lick me... and "Fuck off Dickwad".

Republican Bling Daddy.

BlingDaddy · 05-30-2004, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
if someone were to attack the United States and were in any way successful, then the world's "longest undefended border" would be just that.

Elli.... you are so cute... I hate to disagree with you, BUT... Someone did attack the US. 9-11 was not fiction, we all saw it. The worlds "longest undefended border" has now become defended. It's being defended by finding scumbags globally.

Bling.

baddog · 05-30-2004, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
My bad, I meant your third paragraph about the exchange rate. Sorry about that.

I haven't jumped on any bandwagon. I was "for" the war at first, but have soured on it since it has been put into action.

Would there even be a bandwagon if people didn't feel strongly that it was neccessary to remove Bush from power?

I did not notice that you were blonde I guess

. . . . the third paragraph was in response to your comment "Of course there are also . . . . economic issues (our dollar depends heavily on yours), . . . ."

And yes, there is always an anti-American bandwagon, we are quite used to it.

Canada has been like the Kravitzes for many years now

Elli · 05-30-2004, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by BlingDaddy
Elli.... you are so cute... I hate to disagree with you, BUT... Someone did attack the US. 9-11 was not fiction, we all saw it. The worlds "longest undefended border" has now become defended. It's being defended by finding scumbags globally.

Bling.

I meant a full-on military attack with occupying forces. Not a terrorist action. I do not discount 9-11 at all.

Tempest · 05-30-2004, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
but to be honest, who we elect as President really isn't any of your business.

As long as the US goes to war and then asks their "friends" to help out, it is our business. Our boys are dying alongside yours in Afghanistan. So frankly, as long as the president continues to ask us for help, then we have a perfect right to speak up against or for him.

baddog · 05-30-2004, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
I meant a full-on military attack with occupying forces. Not a terrorist action. I do not discount 9-11 at all.

Don't worry, your government would probably side with the attackers anyway. . . . . unless it was Denmark . . . . but they like us, so we will probably back them should you go to war with them.

baddog · 05-30-2004, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by Tempest
As long as the US goes to war and then asks their "friends" to help out, it is our business. Our boys are dying alongside yours in Afghanistan. So frankly, as long as the president continues to ask us for help, then we have a perfect right to speak up against or for him.

you have the right of refusal . . . .talk to the Queen

Elli · 05-30-2004, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
Don't worry, your government would probably side with the attackers anyway. . . . . unless it was Denmark . . . . but they like us, so we will probably back them should you go to war with them.

You have said nothing to convince me that I have no right to care who your President is. Have you run out of argument?

BlingDaddy · 05-30-2004, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
I meant a full-on military attack with occupying forces. Not a terrorist action. I do not discount 9-11 at all.

Elli, I know what you meant.

My point is that the world's enemies these days don't wear uniforms and "ss" logos on their lapels.

All free lands are now dealing with faceless killers who call themselves "soldiers". Look at Spain for example. How many died on the trains? It's up to the US, Canada, and any other free world to combat a "faceless" enemy.

Elli · 05-30-2004, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by BlingDaddy
Elli, I know what you meant. My point is that the world's enemies these days don't wear uniforms and "ss" logos on their lapels.

All free lands are now dealing with faceless killers who call themselves "soldiers". Look at Spain for example. How many died on the trains? It's up to the US, Canada, and any other free world to combat a "faceless" enemy.

I am still in agreeance with you. But I disagree with how Bush has handled this new challenge to security. I think he has handled it so poorly that he should not be given opportunity to handle it further.

BlingDaddy · 05-30-2004, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
You have said nothing to convince me that I have no right to care who your President is. Have you run out of argument?

You have EVERY right to care who our President is. I care who the Queen of England is, but I don't have the right to vote to change it. As an American citizen and former military, I do vote.

Lane · 05-30-2004, 11:20 PM

just looking at the peoples attitude who do support him says volumes about what he represents. that's all i got to say.

pure energy · 05-30-2004, 11:20 PM

I'd support Elli! She's much more good looking than BlingDaddy anyway! ;)

Elli · 05-30-2004, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by BlingDaddy
You have EVERY right to care who our President is. I care who the Queen of England is, but I don't have the right to vote to change it. As an American citizen and former military, I do vote.

Of course! I don't expect to be able to vote! I'm not trying to get hold of someone else's voter's card or anything. So then?

bluedevil · 05-30-2004, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by Graphics Master XXX
probably resulted by the guy not even seeing a shower in 5 years... what we are seeing is maybe a grease fire.

GMX

boohaha

Illicit · 05-30-2004, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by BlingDaddy
You're a tree huggin hippee. People like you are against drilling for oil in Alaska. I've been there. It sucks..

Why don't you explain the Geneva Convention to the 18,000 Kurds who were gassed by Saddam Hussein and the 3,000 plus dead Americans in the WTC. That's 20,000 reason to invade any country the US thinks is terrorist. SO

If energy prices are so out of control work 2 extra hours at Burger King to pay for your gas. This is Memorial Day weekend so instead of complaining about energy and toxic water, why don't you hug a veteran? You won't... you're too busy slathering Patchouli oil on and tightening your Birkenstocks. Before you get you dreadlocks in a bundle lick me... and "Fuck off Dickwad".

Republican Bling Daddy.

Thank You

BlingDaddy · 05-30-2004, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
I am still in agreeance with you. But I disagree with how Bush has handled this new challenge to security. I think he has handled it so poorly that he should not be given opportunity to handle it further.

Elli,
This sentiment permeates the US and the world. We can't fault Bush. He's not the only person making decisions. There are literally hundreds of Generals, and others making cumulative decisions.

Please remember... at the start of the "Iraq" war, there was an 80% favorablilty of it. All I can say is that I am a Desert Storm 1 veteran, and that war is hard.

We all wanted a "quick" and "surgical" war where no one got hurt. Unfortunately, there are people that don't want that including terrorist, and would be dictators in the Middle East. Canadian and American soldiers know that they can DIE doing their job. I DID! I just got lucky. We can't all give up so easily. 9-11 could have easily been the CN tower.

None of us like seeing people killed.. We have to go to them this time, as long as it takes. If not, mark my words the're coming back. And a nuke in Boston would surely affect Canada.

My

BTW You're the cutest Canadian I know!
Bling

BlingDaddy · 05-30-2004, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by pure energy
I'd support Elli! She's much more good looking than BlingDaddy anyway! ;)

That's an understatement! She can vote for me any day!

Tempest · 05-30-2004, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
you have the right of refusal . . . .talk to the Queen

Yes we do. And we did when it came to Iraq. Which of course Bush didn't like and so started playing various political games with us. That's why he's become the most "hated" US President in Canada since Nixon.

By the Queen I assume you're refering to the British Queen. She hasn't had a say in Canada's policies/politics for quite some time now.

Illicit · 05-30-2004, 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by BlingDaddy

This sentiment permeates the US and the world. We can't fault Bush. He's not the only person making decisions. There are literally hundreds of Generals, and others making cumulative decisions.

Why dont people get this ! its not all on Bush. He did what he had to do with the information that was presented to him. What makes people think that Kerry or anyone else would have done different ? He was acting to defend the interests of the American people. Would you rather see killing in Afghanistan/Iraq or on the streets of the US ?

Elli · 05-30-2004, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by BlingDaddy
Elli,
This sentiment permeates the US and the world. We can't fault Bush. He's not the only person making decisions. There are literally hundreds of Generals, and others making cumulative decisions.

Please remember... at the start of the "Iraq" war, there was an 80% favorablilty of it. All I can say is that I am a Desert Storm 1 veteran, and that war is hard.

Bling

I agreed to the war because I was told that there were WMD in Iraq which needed to be disabled. That's it. No other reason. The people didn't need liberation. The oil fields were fine.

Sure, Saddam is a bad man. It's not our job to remove him from power, especially when we gave him weapons only a few decades ago. In fact, the gassing of the Kurds was something the first Bush turned his back on and did nothing about at the time. Read up on it for more info.

I have every respect for someone who will fight to the death for their country and their ideals. That takes more courage than I have, and I respect that to the utmost. I am glad you came back in one piece.

I just don't want to be at war anymore. Iraq is now a reason for the terrorists to multiply their ranks beyond anything controllable. Who knows how to fix that? I sure don't. But I don't want to make it any worse. And we might as well start trying for a solution now, better than later.

Words, words, words. I need to chill out.

Elli · 05-30-2004, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by ajpiii
Would you rather see killing in Afghanistan/Iraq or on the streets of the US ?

Are you serious? Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11. Nothing. Show me proof to the contrary.

SlickRick · 05-30-2004, 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by sexxxychat69
Does Anyone Here Support George Bush ? It seems like more and more people are turning against him. I still haven't made up my mind. I think both sides have valid points but I think I?m just more confused than anything What do you think about this big fucking mess were in?ak47:

Yes and no it really depends on the issue at hand...

baddog · 05-30-2004, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
You have said nothing to convince me that I have no right to care who your President is. Have you run out of argument?

No, you don't seem to understand . . . you can't vote here, so I really don't feel that I have anything to gain by convincing you one way or the other. Besides, you have pissed me off, because now I am forced into voting for Bush, and two hours ago I wasn't going to.

Thanks a lot.

Illicit · 05-30-2004, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Are you serious? Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11. Nothing. Show me proof to the contrary.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3723-4738r.htm

baddog · 05-30-2004, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Of course! I don't expect to be able to vote! I'm not trying to get hold of someone else's voter's card or anything. So then?

what is this "voter card" you keep talking about? we don't use them here

Elli · 05-30-2004, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by ajpiii
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...3723-4738r.htm

Thank you, that was quite informative. I stand corrected.

Elli · 05-30-2004, 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
No, you don't seem to understand . . . you can't vote here, so I really don't feel that I have anything to gain by convincing you one way or the other. Besides, you have pissed me off, because now I am forced into voting for Bush, and two hours ago I wasn't going to.

Thanks a lot.

Don't let one silly Canadian change your vote one way or another. Isn't that what you are accusing me of trying to do? Don't let me win.

baddog · 05-30-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Tempest

By the Queen I assume you're refering to the British Queen. She hasn't had a say in Canada's policies/politics for quite some time now.

Look, the Queen has as much control as our President does. THis is not a dictatorship. Bush does not just say, "this is how we are going to do it" and then it is done.

To blame all of this on Bush just goes to show how little you know about our political process, and convinces me that you should be baking cookies or something.

BlingDaddy · 05-30-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
I agreed to the war because I was told that there were WMD in Iraq which needed to be disabled. That's it. No other reason. The people didn't need liberation. The oil fields were fine.

Sure, Saddam is a bad man. It's not our job to remove him from power, especially when we gave him weapons only a few decades ago. In fact, the gassing of the Kurds was something the first Bush turned his back on and did nothing about at the time. Read up on it for more info.

I have every respect for someone who will fight to the death for their country and their ideals. That takes more courage than I have, and I respect that to the utmost. I am glad you came back in one piece.

I just don't want to be at war anymore. Iraq is now a reason for the terrorists to multiply their ranks beyond anything controllable. Who knows how to fix that? I sure don't. But I don't want to make it any worse. And we might as well start trying for a solution now, better than later.

Words, words, words. I need to chill out.

Elli,
You're so right. We armed Saddam. The US and Canada did it. We never thought for a minute he'd "test them out" on his own people. It was a different time, and a different era. At that time we were more concerned with Russia and Iran, and compared to them Saddam seemed like a "good guy".

Genocide is unexcusable, and if it happened in the US or Canada you would see MASS REVOLT and people fighting. We would do that because we know what it is like to be free. That is why we are hated. Because we are free. To understand the middle eastern mentality you have to have been there. They hate us, because they are taught that our freedom is not "godlike" or acceptable.

As for courage, every soldier there has a story and a family. None want to die, but all are prepared to do so if it saves one American, Canadian, or free person.

As for the people of Iraq... They DID NEED LIBERATION. Did you see the story here in the US of the 14 men who had their hands cut off by Saddam? US and Canadian doctors gave them robotic replacements. After Gulf War 1 many of the Shiite population of Iraq were tortured and killed because we didn't finish the job the first time.

I don't want an endless war like anyone else. We've done what we can. On June 30th, we will turn their country back over to them. If they don't want freedom.... they can kill themselves, but at least... at the very least they've been afforded the opportunity to be free by great countries like the US and Canada. (BTW, FUCK FRANCE! You Fuckers would be speaking German if it wasnt for us.)

Love you.

Bling.

VeriSexy · 05-30-2004, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Bush's Resume So Far

Don't tell me why he isn't that bad. Tell me why you want him in office for another term. Tell me why he is the BEST choice.

That site is very cool,

Good laugh

baddog · 05-30-2004, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
In fact, the gassing of the Kurds was something the first Bush turned his back on and did nothing about at the time. Read up on it for more info.

Different Bush dear

Tempest · 05-30-2004, 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by ajpiii
Why dont people get this ! its not all on Bush. He did what he had to do with the information that was presented to him. What makes people think that Kerry or anyone else would have done different ? He was acting to defend the interests of the American people.

Most people that blame Bush believe that he wanted to go into Iraq for a variety of reasons, very few of them having to do with the intel. They also believe that Bush is a shoot first ask questions later sort of person. So that's why they put it all on Bush. Bottom line, he's the one that said GO!

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Originally posted by ajpiii
Would you rather see killing in Afghanistan/Iraq or on the streets of the US ?

With the mess that's been made of Iraq it's going to get a lot worse and there's going to be deaths all over the world. It's already happened. Spain??? Afghanistan was the right thing to do. Sort of. Iraq on the other hand is going to make all of us pay for a very long time.

baddog · 05-30-2004, 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Elli
Are you serious? Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11. Nothing. Show me proof to the contrary.

You are right, and our presence in Iraq has nothing to do with oil. Stop believing everything you read in your fucking Socialist newspapers.

We don't even rely on Iraqi oil, never have.

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