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Imperial Star Destroyer vs. USS Enterprise-D. Which would win ??
The Star Destroyer would crush the Enterprise.
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no contest... the enterprise would be more agile...but the star destroyer has more power
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It's not JUST a matter a how MUCH energy is used but HOW the energy is used. Phasers verses Lasers (Turbo or otherwise) Laser: Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation 1) accelerate a charged particle it gives of a photon 2) TRY to get all the charged particles to give off the same frequency of light, try to get them emmit photons at the same time from the same point in their occilation so they don't cancel each other out. Phaser: PHased Amplification of light by Stimulated Emission of Radiation 1) a succesful laser (all the photons are of a single frequency and in phase) 2) the Phaser is an adaptive weapon: the frequency of the photons emmitted is CHOSEN to be the natural frequenquency of occilation of whatever the atoms of the target is. Successive waves of energy are pumped in at just the right time so that the amplitude of each succesive occilation of the target is equal to the last PLUS an increase due the next wave of energy. (And if the shields of the target, Imperial Star Destroyer, can only absorb energy in a certain range of frequencies: CHOOSE a frequency they can't absorb and fire DIRECTLY THROUGH THEIR SHIELDS, bet Thrawn wishes he had a phaser) Many small energy weapons (Turbolasers) versus a few BIG ones (class 10 phaser) Big energy weapon focuses all the energy on a small portion, of targets shields/hull. Small section of hull can't dissipate energy as fast as it gets absorbed, goes BOOM! Many small weapons focuses small amounts of energy at many different portion of shields/hull. The many small portions of shields/hulls CAN dissipate the small amounts of energy. Do NOT go boom. SHIELDS: Imperial Star Destroyer: (from the 2nd Edition role playing game) has 2 types of shields: 1) particle shields: repels mass 2) energy shielding: 2 types: a) ionic shielding (really only charged particle but apparently the particle shields can't handle them) b) energy shielding shields only opperate in certain range of frequencies because the energy expenditure would be enormous to cover them all. GALAXY CLASS (and all other Star Trek) STARSHIPS: have shields that absorb energy from all frequencies (actually shifts/rotates shield frequencies). Lets say a Galaxy Class starship goes up against an opponent that can fire at only certain frequencies (Imperial Star Destroyer) the captain says (you pick the best answer): a) keep rotating the shields to cover frequencies that can't shoot at us with, we wouldn't want to be unfair and make use of our tremendous technological advantage. b) rotate the shields to only cover those frequencies that they can shoot at. (effectively boosting the shields with no additional energy expenditure.) PHOTON TORPEDOS: GALAXY CLASS starships have them Imperial Star Destroyers don't. Basically put equal ammounts of matter and anti-matter in magnetic bottles. Magnetic bottles break when torpedo smashes into target. Matter anti-matter mixes and annihilates releasing a rest energy of 2*m*C^2 (the 2 is for the matter + the anti-matter). If you have happened to read the Dark Empire source book you would no that Han Solo's friend Mako got expelled from the Imperial acadamy for blowing up the mascot moon with a few GRAMS of anti-matter. Lets say the Enterprise fires 1 Photon Torpedo at an Imperial Stardestroyer at warp 9 (about 9,800 C) and woops LaForge forgot to load the anti-matter (just so you know: that process is completely automated, LaForge only makes sure the injectors are working right) guess what happens: a) Imperial Star Destroyer sensors can't detect objects traveling at super-luminal velocities so captain doesn't raise shields. Imperial Star Destroyer goes BOOM! b) Imperial Star Destroyer's Captain gets "a bad feeling about this" so raises shields. Imperial Star Destroyer goes BOOM! If you recall: in RTOJ an A-wing travelling at a speed much slower than light managed to penetrate the shields of the Executer, a SUPER-CLASS-STAR-DESTROYER (forget about a puny Imperial), and crashes into the bridge, causing the Executer to crash into the 2nd (or 3rd if your counting the prototype in the Jedi Acadamy Trilogy) Death Star. POWER SOURCE: Imperial Star Destroyer: has massive fusion reactors Galaxy Class Starship: has Matter/Anti-matter reactor, (If you don't realise the significance go back and read the part on photon torpedoes) and has fusion generators as a back up and to power the impulse (sublight) drives. SPEED Sublight: GALAXY CLASS has a maximum sublight speed of 0.5 C (MUCH faster than an A-wing, could this be why a small asteroid impacting on the Enterprise would cause much more damage than a big one impacting on an Imperial Star Destroyer would? Do you think, Do you think, Do you think?) Imperial Star Destroyer: pretty slow compared to a Galaxy class starship. Hyper Space vs Warp Warp Fields for all of you who don't know, warp the Nature/fabric of a small portion space (surrounding the starship). They Change the rules of nature, employing an "apparent mass reduction effect" that counter-acts the increase of mass an object experiences as it approaches the speed of light. Hyperspace: another dimension, a mirror of ours, where faster than light travel is allowed. Sensors: Galaxy Class Starship: faster than light, real time sensor's Imperial Star Destroyer: light speed sensors Guess what: Galaxy Class Starship sees the Imperial Star Destroyer first shoots photon torpedo, Imperial Star Destroyer's sensors never see torpedo (wouldn't matter if they did). Imperial Star Destroyer goes Boom. TRANSPORTERS Galaxy Class Starship has them, Imperial Star Destroyer doesn't. Lets say the captain of the Galaxy Class starship wants to take the Imperial Star Destroyer intact. He can: 1) beam the Imperial Star Destroyer's bridge crew wherever he wants (into space without a vac-suit, or not even rematerialize them) 2) beam knockout gas into the Imperial Star Destroyer 3) be creative think up a few dozen ways on your own. So now that, that's settled does anyone want to place bets on the Enterprise vs the Death Star. I think the Enterprise would win, though it MIGHT be close. No I'm not going to say that class 10 phasers are more powerful than the Death Star's superlaser. But what happens if the Enterprise goes into geo-synchronous orbit on the far side of the Death Star and just pounds away with it's phasers set to a frequency that passed straight through the Death Star's shields, blow up the shield generators, and let loose with volley after volley of photon torpedoes on the unshielded section of the Death Star (which is only the size of a small moon, read the section on photon torpedos if you can't figure it out). Your right they wouldn't waste anti-matter that way, not when they could just use the phasers to drill a whole straight through the Death Star's reactor core. (if you've seen A New Hope or Return of the Jedi you know that the Death Star will go BOOM) Heck, why waste the energy of a phaser blast, just use the transporters to beam out a part of the Death Star's reactor core. OKAY Let's say that for some reason the Enterprise's phasers, photon torpedo launchers, and transporters aren't working: They send a shuttle, loaded with anti-matter, on auto-pilot at maximum warp at the Death Star. Scratch one shuttle, scratch one Death Star, and the Enterprise doesn't even have to show up for the fight. The MIGHT part, was the Emperor MIGHT be on board and he MIGHT be able to sense and kill whoever is commanding the Enterprise or other Galaxy Class Starship from many light-years away. Or he MIGHT be able to trick EVERY-ONE on board the Enterprise into thinking that the Death Star really is just a small moon long enough to shoot the Enterprise once with the Death Star's super laser. But then again he couldn't fool Data even if he did fool Dianna Troi (an empath) and everyone else. Forget I said it MIGHT be close. |
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its gotto be the enterprise-d
by far the better ship 14 phaser banks 2 photon bays (mite av quantium torps?) its wud be so 1 sided even luke wud cry ![]()
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There are four lights... crack my shit up dude. I knew i wouldn't have to wait long before a Warz v Trek thread popped up. This many geeks in one place... it's fate.
(BTW- im a star trek geek myself)
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I actually read that!
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Holy shit.
Ok, another one: Data vs Jedi Knight. Who wins? |
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Screw Data man... Worf would go primal on a Jedi's ass
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am just checkin with the enterprise-d tech mannual now.. but it doesnt contain data on any upgrades
![]() bugga but would love to see the uss defiant v the death star now theres a battle
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Data calculates this and increases body mass. Once on the ground he approaches yoda and strikes him down with superb speed. |
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star destroyer would win for sure
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star destroyer would fuck up enterprises world like whoa
and jedi vs data is no contest jedi could decimate an entire ships crew jedi are the MIKE DITKAs of the universe |
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LOL you guys are fucking stupid...
The Imperial Starship would win hands down.. All it would have to do is send one or two attacks of its ti-fighters toweards the enterprise and it would be done.. No way the Enterprise could handle it.. Yes Enterprise is more mobile than a starship, but the starship doesnt fight its battles, the Ti-Fighters do.. No contest.. I have spoken.. Topic closed.
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As if this were a legitimate question. The Star Destroyer would totally decimate the Enterprise.
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i love this thread
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its the enterprise all the way
main phasers on a wide beam would take out as many tie fighters as u wanna send.. just accept the defeat star-destroyer fans
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