Wearing condoms in shoots??????? - GoFuckYourself.com

wtfent · 05-27-2004, 01:40 PM

Some friends and I were in Mexico the other night and met some girls that wanted to be filmed. We got release forms signed and two forms of ID so I would be in compliance with all laws. Here is the tricky part, they were messing around and we were getting some good footage when it came down to sex neither the guy or girls wanted to wear condoms and they obvisouly had not been tested for HIV. They were going to have sex with the camera rolling or not so we just decided to film. I know these people are stupid for doing this but what I want to know is if I am breaking any laws for filming a unprotected sex scence when I knew they had not been tested.

Thanks

Manowar · 05-27-2004, 01:42 PM

Your not breaking laws, but if their models you should tell them to go get tested

DarkJedi · 05-27-2004, 01:42 PM

No, you're not breaking any laws.

wtfent · 05-27-2004, 01:43 PM

They are not models, just your regular everyday college students.

NinjaBen · 05-27-2004, 01:43 PM

No no law breaking, just common sense breaking

BRISK · 05-27-2004, 01:43 PM

Were these girls some local mexicans or were the americans that were down in mexico?

AMADude · 05-27-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
No, you're not breaking any laws.

Global Dialers · 05-27-2004, 01:44 PM

you arent breaking any laws however expect to be hit with a huge ass law suit when they discover they have aids and they contracted the disease that time they fucked while you filmed them!

welcome to the world of content production

AMADude · 05-27-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by wtfent
They are not models, just your regular everyday college students.

Well, what are you waiting for? Where are the pics or the video sample?
Are you selling them or?

wtfent · 05-27-2004, 01:45 PM

Just some white girls from San Diego State University. They were not from mexico.

BRISK · 05-27-2004, 01:46 PM

Post some clips

aaron · 05-27-2004, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by NinjaBen
No no law breaking, just common sense breaking

wtfent · 05-27-2004, 01:47 PM

Dont worry I'll post some pics and video as soon as I get my 9 pin to 4 pin fire wire connector.

init · 05-27-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by AMADude
Well, what are you waiting for? Where are the pics or the video sample?
Are you selling them or?

laura · 05-27-2004, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by Global Dialers
you arent breaking any laws however expect to be hit with a huge ass law suit when they discover they have aids and they contracted the disease that time they fucked while you filmed them!

welcome to the world of content production

yup!!

Monique Niccole · 05-27-2004, 02:41 PM

that's nasty and stupid...although not illegal.

stev0 · 05-27-2004, 02:45 PM

They were going to have sex anyways... ? Did you even pay these girls?

Were they drunk or just really slutty? model release or not, if they were intoxicated in any way you have to watch out, they could charge you afterwards for statutory rape.

Tofu · 05-27-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Global Dialers
you arent breaking any laws however expect to be hit with a huge ass law suit when they discover they have aids and they contracted the disease that time they fucked while you filmed them!

welcome to the world of content production

OKay, then can you have them sign a waiver to avoid such a situation?

Paul Waters · 05-27-2004, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Global Dialers
you arent breaking any laws however expect to be hit with a huge ass law suit when they discover they have aids and they contracted the disease that time they fucked while you filmed them!

I wonder what the proof would be?

Global Dialers · 05-27-2004, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com
OKay, then can you have them sign a waiver to avoid such a situation?

in short no.. that contract / waiver would then be in breach of the law itself and be abslutely useless

Global Dialers · 05-27-2004, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Paul Waters
I wonder what the proof would be?

the shoot perhaps showing they fucked without use of condoms the only documented proof they would need ;)

wtfent · 05-27-2004, 04:00 PM

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you arent breaking any laws however expect to be hit with a huge ass law suit when they discover they have aids and they contracted the disease that time they fucked while you filmed them!

I would then counter sue who ever sues me. I was put in a situation were I felt very uncomfortable. I was pressured by both parties that it was not a big deal to them. They were telling me to not be a pussy and just film the damm sex.

JohnW · 05-27-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by wtfent
I would then counter sue who ever sues me. I was put in a situation were I felt very uncomfortable. I was pressured by both parties that it was not a big deal to them. They were telling me to not be a pussy and just film the damm sex.

As the producer of the content you should have told them to shut the fuck up, wrap their peckers and get to fucking. Keep your pimp hand strong man...

First rule of content production; Talent doesn't tell the producer/director how things are going to go, it's the other way around.
If you, as the person/company producing /paying for the production of the content wants condoms used, they should use condoms. Period.

J.

Another shining example of how anyone with a digital camera thinks they are an instant content producer...dude doesn't even have a firewire cable to connect his cam to his computer....geeze.

AaronM · 05-27-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by wtfent
Some friends and I were in Mexico the other night and met some girls that wanted to be filmed. We got release forms signed and two forms of ID so I would be in compliance with all laws. Here is the tricky part, they were messing around and we were getting some good footage when it came down to sex neither the guy or girls wanted to wear condoms and they obvisouly had not been tested for HIV. They were going to have sex with the camera rolling or not so we just decided to film. I know these people are stupid for doing this but what I want to know is if I am breaking any laws for filming a unprotected sex scence when I knew they had not been tested.

Thanks

First off...You're a fucking idiot.

Second.....You're a fucking idiot.

Go ahead...Ask me why I think this so that I can point out all of your fuck ups in this story......

pussyluver · 05-27-2004, 04:13 PM

I would of had them sign the microsoft EULA -it covers every possible situation. Why waste a chance at content, I would of shot the content. No lawyer, but they acted at their own risk it sounds like to me.

TweetyBird · 05-27-2004, 04:13 PM

I don't believe it is actually illegal.... it is dumb though

torrey · 05-27-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
No, you're not breaking any laws.

DreamCumTrue · 05-27-2004, 04:16 PM

there arent any laws against it right now

AaronM · 05-27-2004, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by JohnW
Another shining example of how anyone with a digital camera thinks they are an instant content producer...dude doesn't even have a firewire cable to connect his cam to his computer....geeze.

John...Cut the guy some slack.

He clearly has the bomb ass equipment since he needs a 9 to 4 pin firewire cable. I would help him out but I am not ELITE enough to know where to even find a 9 pin firewire cable.

pussyluver · 05-27-2004, 04:17 PM

Second thought, I would have hesitated if they came to me. Would have to ask myself, is this a sting or what?

Plus AaronM would of just called me a fucking idiot.

pussyluver · 05-27-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
John...Cut the guy some slack.

He clearly has the bomb ass equipment since he needs a 9 to 4 pin firewire cable. I would help him out but I am not ELITE enough to know where to even find a 9 pin firewire cable.

Radio Shack of course

AaronM · 05-27-2004, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Radio Shack of course

Cool. I was not aware that they carried such a monster.

Kindly post a link to one so that we may all see it.

Basic_man · 05-27-2004, 04:21 PM

You are not breaking any laws!

CoolE · 05-27-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by wtfent
what I want to know is if I am breaking any laws for filming a unprotected sex scence when I knew they had not been tested.

Thanks

"Holy liability risks Batman!"

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 05-27-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by wtfent
Some friends and I were in Mexico the other night and met some girls that wanted to be filmed. We got release forms signed and two forms of ID so I would be in compliance with all laws. Here is the tricky part, they were messing around and we were getting some good footage when it came down to sex neither the guy or girls wanted to wear condoms and they obvisouly had not been tested for HIV. They were going to have sex with the camera rolling or not so we just decided to film. I know these people are stupid for doing this but what I want to know is if I am breaking any laws for filming a unprotected sex scence when I knew they had not been tested.

Thanks

all parties are extremely irresponsible....

laura · 05-27-2004, 05:02 PM

I am no lawyer but I was always told that although prostitution is legal in Mexico...porn is illegal.

so...yes you were breaking the law.

I know this male actor who was down there a few months ago...he got caught flashing his business card (naked photo of himself) and was hauled off and spent the night in jail.

jackson · 05-27-2004, 05:06 PM

isn't it their risk then if they chose not to and you didn't force them to not wear a condom if they did contract a STD how would that blame be put upon you? i mean i don't kno the laws behind it all or anything im just saying common sense wise, dam thats pretty hectic i'd be heated if i flashed a naked card of myself and got arrested for it

reynold · 05-27-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by laura
I am no lawyer but I was always told that although prostitution is legal in Mexico...porn is illegal.

so...yes you were breaking the law.

I know this male actor who was down there a few months ago...he got caught flashing his business card (naked photo of himself) and was hauled off and spent the night in jail.

Now this sucks!

AMADude · 05-27-2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by JohnW
As the producer of the content you should have told them to shut the fuck up, wrap their peckers and get to fucking. Keep your pimp hand strong man...

First rule of content production; Talent doesn't tell the producer/director how things are going to go, it's the other way around.
If you, as the person/company producing /paying for the production of the content wants condoms used, they should use condoms. Period.

J.

Another shining example of how anyone with a digital camera thinks they are an instant content producer...dude doesn't even have a firewire cable to connect his cam to his computer....geeze.

Very well put.

Jill_J · 05-27-2004, 07:16 PM

it`s not illegal but girls are really stupid

05-27-2004, 01:40 PM	#1
wtfent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, Cali. baby!!! Posts: 3,790	Wearing condoms in shoots??????? Some friends and I were in Mexico the other night and met some girls that wanted to be filmed. We got release forms signed and two forms of ID so I would be in compliance with all laws. Here is the tricky part, they were messing around and we were getting some good footage when it came down to sex neither the guy or girls wanted to wear condoms and they obvisouly had not been tested for HIV. They were going to have sex with the camera rolling or not so we just decided to film. I know these people are stupid for doing this but what I want to know is if I am breaking any laws for filming a unprotected sex scence when I knew they had not been tested. Thanks Last edited by wtfent; 05-27-2004 at 01:41 PM..

05-27-2004, 01:43 PM	#5
NinjaBen Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Shadows Posts: 167	No no law breaking, just common sense breaking __________________ ICQ: 159012243

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Post some clips __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	Your not breaking laws, but if their models you should tell them to go get tested

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Global Dialers Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Spain Posts: 1,349	you arent breaking any laws however expect to be hit with a huge ass law suit when they discover they have aids and they contracted the disease that time they fucked while you filmed them! welcome to the world of content production

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wtfent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, Cali. baby!!! Posts: 3,790	Just some white girls from San Diego State University. They were not from mexico.

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wtfent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, Cali. baby!!! Posts: 3,790	Dont worry I'll post some pics and video as soon as I get my 9 pin to 4 pin fire wire connector.

05-27-2004, 02:41 PM	#16
Monique Niccole Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,653	that's nasty and stupid...although not illegal.

05-27-2004, 02:45 PM	#17
stev0 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 6,801	They were going to have sex anyways... ? Did you even pay these girls? Were they drunk or just really slutty? model release or not, if they were intoxicated in any way you have to watch out, they could charge you afterwards for statutory rape.

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pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	I would of had them sign the microsoft EULA -it covers every possible situation. Why waste a chance at content, I would of shot the content. No lawyer, but they acted at their own risk it sounds like to me.

05-27-2004, 04:16 PM	#28
DreamCumTrue Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,985	there arent any laws against it right now

05-27-2004, 04:17 PM	#30
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Second thought, I would have hesitated if they came to me. Would have to ask myself, is this a sting or what? Plus AaronM would of just called me a fucking idiot.

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laura Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Digital Nomad, but based in New England Posts: 945	I am no lawyer but I was always told that although prostitution is legal in Mexico...porn is illegal. so...yes you were breaking the law. I know this male actor who was down there a few months ago...he got caught flashing his business card (naked photo of himself) and was hauled off and spent the night in jail.

05-27-2004, 05:06 PM	#37
jackson Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,094	isn't it their risk then if they chose not to and you didn't force them to not wear a condom if they did contract a STD how would that blame be put upon you? i mean i don't kno the laws behind it all or anything im just saying common sense wise, dam thats pretty hectic i'd be heated if i flashed a naked card of myself and got arrested for it __________________ PromO ArS 4 ReAL TeenPicCentral.com icq#303419172

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