Are domains property? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 05-27-2004, 12:50 PM

Yes or no?

bringer · 05-27-2004, 12:51 PM

Shooter · 05-27-2004, 12:51 PM

I'd say so

polish_aristocrat · 05-27-2004, 12:52 PM

Are you sure?
Since when?
Since the sex.com lawsuit?

Manowar · 05-27-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Yes or no?

i guess then copying sites is burgulary

V_RocKs · 05-27-2004, 12:53 PM

Yes and they are considered to be an address. So you could say that your address is rhinosthumbs.com and if you want to send me a fucking invoice, send it to my email box, fucker, and that would be just fine too.

V_RocKs · 05-27-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by Manowar
i guess then copying sites is burgulary

No, that would be like saying copying your entire house on my plot of land is burglary.

stev0 · 05-27-2004, 12:56 PM

No, domains are not property...

I know .ca domains are owned by CIRA, im sure .com's are owned by some governing organization as well.

A domain is leased, kind of like a phone number... it's "yours" but you never truly own it.

Boogie3 · 05-27-2004, 12:57 PM

SlickRick · 05-27-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by stev0
No, domains are not property...

I know .ca domains are owned by CIRA, im sure .com's are owned by some governing organization as well.

A domain is kind of like a phone number... it's "yours" but you never truly own it.

What steveo said

pimpshost · 05-27-2004, 12:58 PM

Ask Gary Kremen, lol

polish_aristocrat · 05-27-2004, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by stev0
No, domains are not property...

I know .ca domains are owned by CIRA, im sure .com's are owned by some governing organization as well.

A domain is leased, kind of like a phone number... it's "yours" but you never truly own it.

i remember someone comparing them to phone numbers...
but i thought that nowadays they are perhaps already considered property...

DarkJedi · 05-27-2004, 01:00 PM

yes they are.
since sex.com lawsuit.

Keev · 05-27-2004, 01:17 PM

www.erealestate.com enjoy

polish_aristocrat · 05-27-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
yes they are.
since sex.com lawsuit.

well, are u sure or just stating an opinion based on what someone somewehere said?

polish_aristocrat · 05-27-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by Keev
www.erealestate.com enjoy

what should i enjoy?
it's webfathers site but i don't think i will find there an answer to my question

Keev · 05-27-2004, 01:24 PM

If you read his advice, and other info regarding domains you will get your answer and then some.

Giorgio_Xo · 05-27-2004, 01:27 PM

Officially domains belong to ICANN which you lease.

polish_aristocrat · 05-27-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Officially domains belong to ICANN which you lease.

so the majority who replied "yes" is wrong?

And do you think that in some future it will change and they will be considered property?

aaron · 05-27-2004, 01:31 PM

i agree i think they are like phone numbers

oldtimer · 05-27-2004, 02:05 PM

The "no's" are wrong. thats why Kremin was able to sue network soloutions.

"Carreon became the first lawyer to establish that Internet domain names are property that can both be stolen by thieves and returned to their owners by court order. "

http://onlinemedialaw.com

AMADude · 05-27-2004, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by oldtimer
The "no's" are wrong. thats why Kremin was able to sue network soloutions.

"Carreon became the first lawyer to establish that Internet domain names are property that can both be stolen by thieves and returned to their owners by court order. "

http://onlinemedialaw.com

polish_aristocrat · 05-28-2004, 02:33 AM

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Originally posted by oldtimer
The "no's" are wrong. thats why Kremin was able to sue network soloutions.

"Carreon became the first lawyer to establish that Internet domain names are property that can both be stolen by thieves and returned to their owners by court order. "

http://onlinemedialaw.com

Good

Aquarius · 05-28-2004, 02:35 AM

Like phone numbers! That's a good example.

bluedevil · 05-28-2004, 02:35 AM

hehe, if you can own it...its somethin

Matiz · 05-28-2004, 02:38 AM

Yes, they are

Webby · 05-28-2004, 02:39 AM

Generally... no!

If you are speaking to some tax collectors - definately not.

If you are trying to make claims in court - yea!

But in real life.... na... as said above, least according to a rathole of lawyers at InterNic, they will claim they are "similar to phone numbers"...

But hell... cos they say so, don't mean a damned thing!

Webby · 05-28-2004, 02:46 AM

BTW... I actually had a tax investigator try and tell me they were like real estate and were an appreciating asset

That was before he was told he could pay the reg fees or fuck off - he chose to fuck off :-)

It all depends on who has an agenda - sounds like most things in life

KRL · 05-28-2004, 03:07 AM

Yes, according to case law thanks to Gary's case they are.

EviLGuY · 05-28-2004, 03:44 AM

Its been said already but the sex.com case proved that rather nicely.

Manowar · 05-28-2004, 03:45 AM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
No, that would be like saying copying your entire house on my plot of land is burglary.

what if i steal parts of your house and use them for my house

mardigras · 05-28-2004, 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by Manowar
what if i steal parts of your house and use them for my house

Still doesn't work for a web comparrison unless someone is hacking into somone else's site, taking code to put on their page while deleting it from the original.

A better example would be to build a restaurant that looks exactly like the one next door and serve the exact same menu.
(See how long you get away with selling mcnuggets

)

TweetyBird · 05-28-2004, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by Manowar
what if i steal parts of your house and use them for my house

good point

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Yes and they are considered to be an address. So you could say that your address is rhinosthumbs.com and if you want to send me a fucking invoice, send it to my email box, fucker, and that would be just fine too.

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stev0 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 6,801	No, domains are not property... I know .ca domains are owned by CIRA, im sure .com's are owned by some governing organization as well. A domain is leased, kind of like a phone number... it's "yours" but you never truly own it.

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Generally... no! If you are speaking to some tax collectors - definately not. If you are trying to make claims in court - yea! But in real life.... na... as said above, least according to a rathole of lawyers at InterNic, they will claim they are "similar to phone numbers"... But hell... cos they say so, don't mean a damned thing!

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	BTW... I actually had a tax investigator try and tell me they were like real estate and were an appreciating asset That was before he was told he could pay the reg fees or fuck off - he chose to fuck off :-) It all depends on who has an agenda - sounds like most things in life

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