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polish_aristocrat 05-27-2004 12:50 PM

Are domains property?
 
Yes or no?

bringer 05-27-2004 12:51 PM

yes

Shooter 05-27-2004 12:51 PM

I'd say so

polish_aristocrat 05-27-2004 12:52 PM

Are you sure?
Since when?
Since the sex.com lawsuit?

Manowar 05-27-2004 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Yes or no?
i guess then copying sites is burgulary

V_RocKs 05-27-2004 12:53 PM

Yes and they are considered to be an address. So you could say that your address is rhinosthumbs.com and if you want to send me a fucking invoice, send it to my email box, fucker, and that would be just fine too.

V_RocKs 05-27-2004 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
i guess then copying sites is burgulary
No, that would be like saying copying your entire house on my plot of land is burglary.

stev0 05-27-2004 12:56 PM

No, domains are not property...

I know .ca domains are owned by CIRA, im sure .com's are owned by some governing organization as well.

A domain is leased, kind of like a phone number... it's "yours" but you never truly own it.

Boogie3 05-27-2004 12:57 PM

yes

SlickRick 05-27-2004 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stev0
No, domains are not property...

I know .ca domains are owned by CIRA, im sure .com's are owned by some governing organization as well.

A domain is kind of like a phone number... it's "yours" but you never truly own it.

What steveo said

pimpshost 05-27-2004 12:58 PM

Ask Gary Kremen, lol

polish_aristocrat 05-27-2004 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stev0
No, domains are not property...

I know .ca domains are owned by CIRA, im sure .com's are owned by some governing organization as well.

A domain is leased, kind of like a phone number... it's "yours" but you never truly own it.

i remember someone comparing them to phone numbers...
but i thought that nowadays they are perhaps already considered property... :helpme

DarkJedi 05-27-2004 01:00 PM

yes they are.
since sex.com lawsuit.

Keev 05-27-2004 01:17 PM

www.erealestate.com enjoy

polish_aristocrat 05-27-2004 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
yes they are.
since sex.com lawsuit.

well, are u sure or just stating an opinion based on what someone somewehere said?

polish_aristocrat 05-27-2004 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keev
www.erealestate.com enjoy
what should i enjoy?
it's webfathers site but i don't think i will find there an answer to my question

Keev 05-27-2004 01:24 PM

If you read his advice, and other info regarding domains you will get your answer and then some.

Giorgio_Xo 05-27-2004 01:27 PM

Officially domains belong to ICANN which you lease.

polish_aristocrat 05-27-2004 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Officially domains belong to ICANN which you lease.
so the majority who replied "yes" is wrong?

And do you think that in some future it will change and they will be considered property?

aaron 05-27-2004 01:31 PM

i agree i think they are like phone numbers

oldtimer 05-27-2004 02:05 PM

The "no's" are wrong. thats why Kremin was able to sue network soloutions.

"Carreon became the first lawyer to establish that Internet domain names are property that can both be stolen by thieves and returned to their owners by court order. "

http://onlinemedialaw.com

AMADude 05-27-2004 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oldtimer
The "no's" are wrong. thats why Kremin was able to sue network soloutions.

"Carreon became the first lawyer to establish that Internet domain names are property that can both be stolen by thieves and returned to their owners by court order. "

http://onlinemedialaw.com


polish_aristocrat 05-28-2004 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by oldtimer
The "no's" are wrong. thats why Kremin was able to sue network soloutions.

"Carreon became the first lawyer to establish that Internet domain names are property that can both be stolen by thieves and returned to their owners by court order. "

http://onlinemedialaw.com

Good :thumbsup

Aquarius 05-28-2004 02:35 AM

Like phone numbers! That's a good example.

bluedevil 05-28-2004 02:35 AM

hehe, if you can own it...its somethin

Matiz 05-28-2004 02:38 AM

Yes, they are

Webby 05-28-2004 02:39 AM

Generally... no!

If you are speaking to some tax collectors - definately not.

If you are trying to make claims in court - yea!

But in real life.... na... as said above, least according to a rathole of lawyers at InterNic, they will claim they are "similar to phone numbers"...

But hell... cos they say so, don't mean a damned thing! :winkwink:

Webby 05-28-2004 02:46 AM

BTW... I actually had a tax investigator try and tell me they were like real estate and were an appreciating asset :winkwink:

That was before he was told he could pay the reg fees or fuck off - he chose to fuck off :-)

It all depends on who has an agenda - sounds like most things in life :glugglug

KRL 05-28-2004 03:07 AM

Yes, according to case law thanks to Gary's case they are.

:Graucho

EviLGuY 05-28-2004 03:44 AM

Its been said already but the sex.com case proved that rather nicely.

Manowar 05-28-2004 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by V_RocKs
No, that would be like saying copying your entire house on my plot of land is burglary.
what if i steal parts of your house and use them for my house

mardigras 05-28-2004 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
what if i steal parts of your house and use them for my house
Still doesn't work for a web comparrison unless someone is hacking into somone else's site, taking code to put on their page while deleting it from the original.

A better example would be to build a restaurant that looks exactly like the one next door and serve the exact same menu.
(See how long you get away with selling mcnuggets:Graucho)

TweetyBird 05-28-2004 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
what if i steal parts of your house and use them for my house

good point :glugglug


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