Are TGP's killing small paysites - GoFuckYourself.com

Bake · 01-13-2001, 05:07 PM

Everyone says there to much free porn on the net but how do you control it I think there's to much hardcore stuff.
Maybe if you needed a avs to get onto the TGP's at least. I think that would be great at least you now the guys got credit card, traffic would be lower but better, bandwidth would be cheaper but how would you do it?

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Spunky · 06-07-2003, 07:43 PM

Yup..them fucking TGP'S killed everything

oscer · 06-07-2003, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Bake
Everyone says there to much free porn on the net but how do you control it I think there's to much hardcore stuff.
Maybe if you needed a avs to get onto the TGP's at least. I think that would be great at least you now the guys got credit card, traffic would be lower but better, bandwidth would be cheaper but how would you do it?

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The harder I work the luckyer I get

TGPS Should be Password Protected by a Yearly Fee for a pass to surfers ... Its like buying a sex mag and ordering a video out of it

DeanCapture · 06-07-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by Bake
Everyone says there to much free porn on the net but how do you control it....

Free porn is like spam - you can't control it - only the government can. And soon...they probably will.

Mr.Fiction · 06-07-2003, 07:51 PM

dav555add · 06-07-2003, 07:52 PM

Maybe

TzarJorge · 06-07-2003, 07:54 PM

I think so too.

StupidNewbie · 06-07-2003, 07:56 PM

this debate is getting old.

no, TGPs arent killing small paysites. Gallery posters are killing it. Open a TGP - fill it with your hosted galleries / primarily promoting your own sites. POOF a valuable marketing tool that attracts traffic and makes sales to your small paysite - the same TGP you bitched about is now making you money. Just don't be a dumbass when selecting content.

FlyingIguana · 06-07-2003, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture

Free porn is like spam - you can't control it - only the government can. And soon...they probably will.

how would they control sites in other countries? are they gonna pull a china?

i don't see free porn going anywhere.

psyko514 · 06-07-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by StupidNewbie
this debate is getting old.

so is this thread.

Gutterboy · 06-07-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

how would they control sites in other countries? are they gonna pull a china?

i don't see free porn going anywhere.

Agreed. All US Gov't intervention will do is prompt anyone who's banking big off free porn to move offshore.

It would kill alot of smaller US operators for sure, but the slack would be picked up by guys in other countries before you can say "obscenity prosecution"

Rictor · 06-07-2003, 09:22 PM

Most of the big TGPs are NOT owned by webmasters in the United States. Most are hosted here though. Foreign hosting companies would get a big boost. That's about it.

Civic3D · 06-08-2003, 12:02 AM

Really ?

MetaMan · 06-08-2003, 12:03 AM

new and innovative ideads always sell,
its not tgps its uncreative people.

Why · 06-08-2003, 12:10 AM

can we say....

2001

clubsexy · 06-08-2003, 12:12 AM

Anyone else start with AVS around 1997? I did and I could sell 100 memberships a week for sites that had only 20 - 30 pics on them.

My first 1099 from Adult Check still beats any single sponsor since.

Matt 26z · 06-08-2003, 12:21 AM

Put one and one together and the prosecutions are coming later on this year.

25 new attorney's to be hired for CP and obcenety prosecutions within the next 6 months just sitting around doing nothing? I think not.

Something's going to go down.

Rich · 06-08-2003, 12:30 AM

There's no doubt the TGP is a stupid business plan. The dozen or so people who have made it big in TGPs will disagree, but it's obvious. However, if you're not making money with your paysite, that's your fault, don't blame TGPs. There is still money to be made in this business without that kind of traffic, if you can't do it, well, get a job.

eroswebmaster · 06-08-2003, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by StupidNewbie
this debate is getting old.

no, TGPs arent killing small paysites. Gallery posters are killing it. Open a TGP - fill it with your hosted galleries / primarily promoting your own sites. POOF a valuable marketing tool that attracts traffic and makes sales to your small paysite - the same TGP you bitched about is now making you money. Just don't be a dumbass when selecting content.

Won't ever happen.

No one will EVER stop giving away free porn.

Why?

Let's say everyone in the entier world stopped giving away free porn on the net.

Eventually there will be one guy who will say..."hmmm...imagine how much traffic I could get if I started to give away free previews to the paysites." And thus the whole free porn is saturating the market argument would start up again because everyone would start giving it away again just to compete for the clicks.

Pandora's box is open and can't ever be shut. it's out it's there. Nothing short of legislation will curb it, and even then someone in another country will just start giving it away and there goes your traffic there.

The same applies to the hosted gallery concept. Yes they're nice, they're bandwidth savers, but eventually the surfer is going to get tired of going to tgps and seeing the same old hosted galleries over and over.

So the ones with the creative daily submitted galleries will start to pull in the traffic.

01-13-2001, 05:07 PM	#1
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,269	Are TGP's killing small paysites Everyone says there to much free porn on the net but how do you control it I think there's to much hardcore stuff. Maybe if you needed a avs to get onto the TGP's at least. I think that would be great at least you now the guys got credit card, traffic would be lower but better, bandwidth would be cheaper but how would you do it? ------------------ The harder I work the luckyer I get

06-07-2003, 07:43 PM	#2
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06-07-2003, 07:54 PM	#7
TzarJorge Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Far far away. Posts: 659	I think so too.

06-07-2003, 07:56 PM	#8
StupidNewbie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 864	this debate is getting old. no, TGPs arent killing small paysites. Gallery posters are killing it. Open a TGP - fill it with your hosted galleries / primarily promoting your own sites. POOF a valuable marketing tool that attracts traffic and makes sales to your small paysite - the same TGP you bitched about is now making you money. Just don't be a dumbass when selecting content.

06-07-2003, 09:22 PM	#12
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Most of the big TGPs are NOT owned by webmasters in the United States. Most are hosted here though. Foreign hosting companies would get a big boost. That's about it.

06-08-2003, 12:03 AM	#14
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	new and innovative ideads always sell, its not tgps its uncreative people.

06-08-2003, 12:10 AM	#15
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	can we say.... 2001

06-08-2003, 12:12 AM	#16
clubsexy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 1,630	Anyone else start with AVS around 1997? I did and I could sell 100 memberships a week for sites that had only 20 - 30 pics on them. My first 1099 from Adult Check still beats any single sponsor since.

06-08-2003, 12:21 AM	#17
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Put one and one together and the prosecutions are coming later on this year. 25 new attorney's to be hired for CP and obcenety prosecutions within the next 6 months just sitting around doing nothing? I think not. Something's going to go down.

06-08-2003, 12:30 AM	#18
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	There's no doubt the TGP is a stupid business plan. The dozen or so people who have made it big in TGPs will disagree, but it's obvious. However, if you're not making money with your paysite, that's your fault, don't blame TGPs. There is still money to be made in this business without that kind of traffic, if you can't do it, well, get a job.