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Old 05-21-2004, 06:35 PM   #1
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A tip on how to enjoy this business more

This hppens everyday

You hire someone to:

Program
Design
Shoot Content
Place an ad

etc.

You send them a check, a paypal etc.

Next day all of a sudden the dame fuck who you where able to reach anytime now is unreachable.

This is what you do

Tell them if you dont hear from them within 12 hours the check will be stopped, the paypal chargedback etc.

You still dont hear chargeback that fucker, cancel the fuckin check.

Stress doesnt come so much from being ripped off, its the process leading up to it, make the process short and enjoy life more.

Enjoy

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Old 05-21-2004, 06:38 PM   #2
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Very true. I'm going nuts trying to contact someone myself who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

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Old 05-21-2004, 06:39 PM   #3
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:40 PM   #4
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:40 PM   #5
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Very true. I'm going nuts trying to contact someone myself who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

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yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:41 PM   #6
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This hppens everyday

You hire someone to:

Program
Design
Shoot Content
Place an ad

etc.

You send them a check, a paypal etc.

Next day all of a sudden the dame fuck who you where able to reach anytime now is unreachable.

This is what you do

Tell them if you dont hear from them within 12 hours the check will be stopped, the paypal chargedback etc.

You still dont hear chargeback that fucker, cancel the fuckin check.

Stress doesnt come so much from being ripped off, its the process leading up to it, make the process short and enjoy life more.

Enjoy
That's some really good advice I'm going to try to follow. Thanks.
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:41 PM   #7
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yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more
There's a Jay-Z song with that.

Not selling any records, fuck you pay me.
Nobody came to your last concent, fuck you pay me.

and so on....it's how business is meant to be
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:42 PM   #8
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Very true. I'm going nuts trying to contact someone myself who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

WG
I feel your pain. There seems to be a constant supply of companies and consultants who play the disappering act these days.

We spend thousands on outside services weekly and constantly get the run around.
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:43 PM   #9
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:44 PM   #10
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:44 PM   #11
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:44 PM   #12
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There's a Jay-Z song with that.

Not selling any records, fuck you pay me.
Nobody came to your last concent, fuck you pay me.

and so on....it's how business is meant to be
goodfellas mentality
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:44 PM   #13
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yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more

Yup, thankfully we have a contract but it hardly seems worth the legal resources to enforce it. Lesson learnt...

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Old 05-21-2004, 07:01 PM   #14
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Old 05-21-2004, 07:03 PM   #15
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Old 05-21-2004, 07:05 PM   #16
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Old 05-21-2004, 07:06 PM   #17
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There's a Jay-Z song with that.

Not selling any records, fuck you pay me.
Nobody came to your last concent, fuck you pay me.

and so on....it's how business is meant to be
Not really.. its just how business unfortunatly HAS to be when youre dealing with degenerated animals like in this business.
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Old 05-21-2004, 07:11 PM   #18
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There's a Jay-Z song with that.

Not selling any records, fuck you pay me.
Nobody came to your last concent, fuck you pay me.

and so on....it's how business is meant to be

LOL You make me feel old
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Old 05-21-2004, 07:13 PM   #19
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Old 05-21-2004, 09:57 PM   #21
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:33 PM   #23
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How about this then.

You shoot content for a guy, after telling him it's not your niche but he insists, and then the guy does not buy it even after you sent him the content.

Can't feel sorry for a guy who does that can you?

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Old 05-21-2004, 10:36 PM   #24
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yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more
I agree,

You can't have any sort of compassion in business if you want to make money. You gotta be a machine.
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:39 PM   #25
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So true! Models have a bad rep for being flakey but it's definitely not limited to them. I wonder if the anonymity of the internet makes it easier for people to be held less accountable.
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:41 PM   #27
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How about this then.

You shoot content for a guy, after telling him it's not your niche but he insists, and then the guy does not buy it even after you sent him the content.

Can't feel sorry for a guy who does that can you?
no but you can shoot him
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:34 PM   #28
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I try to do business with only people who have good reps, it seems to be the only real way to be assured that you'll get what you pay for. Going the legal route is too time consuming and too costly sometimes, so I figure that if a person has a good reputation on the boards they have something they don't want to loose. So far it's worked well for me.

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I try to do business with only people who have good reps, it seems to be the only real way to be assured that you'll get what you pay for. Going the legal route is too time consuming and too costly sometimes, so I figure that if a person has a good reputation on the boards they have something they don't want to loose. So far it's worked well for me.

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chances are if they stiff you taking them to court won't help, because they prolly don't have any money.
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Yep - I have 3 different design shops on a project and ALL of them are dragging ass and incommunicado since I cut them the paypal.

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I know exactly what you mean.

Now i tell knew people that i will flame the living fuck out of them if they fuck me over. Ever since implementing this rule it seems i get evrything that was agreed and on time.

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Old 05-22-2004, 10:16 PM   #32
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Good advice. As a rule, designers and photographers are flaky as hell.
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Old 05-22-2004, 10:18 PM   #33
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Its design shops like them that screw up business for people like myself .... a couple of my clients have been screwed over in the past, and lost a great deal of money and time in the process... it fucks me off because for a design shop like myslef who doesnt have a huge reputation but takes client liasion, customer satisfaction, and project reliability extremely seriously... it makes people less comfortable with trying out the new guy
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I did some work for just a few people (all with good rep), this way I could ask for payment just after I delivered the full project.

They don't have to worry being screwed and if shit happens more likely they'll trust you and you can give a discount if needed or something like that.
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yeah money and trust should be given out sparingly in this business


too many fuckos who dont like the way things work out for themselves so they turn on anyone who is the least bit successful


i will never help another person in this business...if you aren't lining my pockets..tough titty

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Old 05-23-2004, 07:24 AM   #37
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This hppens everyday

You hire someone to:

Program
Design
Shoot Content
Place an ad

etc.

You send them a check, a paypal etc.

Next day all of a sudden the dame fuck who you where able to reach anytime now is unreachable.

This is what you do

Tell them if you dont hear from them within 12 hours the check will be stopped, the paypal chargedback etc.

You still dont hear chargeback that fucker, cancel the fuckin check.

Stress doesnt come so much from being ripped off, its the process leading up to it, make the process short and enjoy life more.

Enjoy
Very true the only real way to deal withit correctly
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yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more
Wise words.
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yes, and it really pisses me off when someone claims they have a group of workers ready to do the job and then doesn't return messages... know what I mean??
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Best response here.



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Old 05-23-2004, 08:14 AM   #43
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Two ways to get fucked.. With and with out the reach around.

Sometime is best to make your point I have been know to show up on a door step to just to get my point across. Rarely is it worth the money but you have to let people know that can't fuck you.

I don't like being fucked with our with out the reach arounf.
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From the last person I would have expected too
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i am going through a similar situation now. i hope it does not turn out bad
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