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Old 05-20-2004, 11:32 PM   #101
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Old 05-20-2004, 11:34 PM   #102
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So whats the deal with this guy why do people hate him so much?
they were caught shaving about 6 months ago and denied it saying it was photoshop edited screen shots.. This takes the photoshop argument out of it.
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Old 05-20-2004, 11:42 PM   #103
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What's your fucking point?

Your the dumbass who posted links to a private admin section. If I were Rodney Connor...I would be speaking to my attorney about you first thing in the morning.

Of course....Rodney is a complete dumbass so unless he reads this thread....which he is....He won't think of this on his own.
Oh Puhleeze shut the fuck up.

I posted links to publically accessable pages.

Tell your fat ass what. ..

If they contact ME, I'll tell them what YOU were doing while I was WAITING to hit "Submit Post".

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Old 05-20-2004, 11:46 PM   #104
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Well my post on PIB message board lasted about 40 minutes asking if their stats area was down....then of course finally got deleted.
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Old 05-20-2004, 11:46 PM   #105
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It's a link to an unprotected webadmin. There is nothing illegal about it.

Just because it's php does not make it more private.

That's just crazy. Not even a lame hahahahahahahahahaha password. Unbelievable. It's like leaving doors wide open all the time, just waiting for someone to steal things inside my house.
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Old 05-21-2004, 12:36 AM   #106
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Old 05-21-2004, 01:00 AM   #107
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Well, they finally found out that they should take it down! Took them fucking long enough!

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Old 05-21-2004, 01:27 AM   #109
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some screenshots please,these links already doesnt work
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Old 05-21-2004, 01:40 AM   #110
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Ok, i missed it. Somebody care to explain what there was to see?
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Old 05-21-2004, 02:55 AM   #111
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some screenshots please,these links already doesnt work
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Old 05-21-2004, 02:58 AM   #112
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Ok, i missed it. Somebody care to explain what there was to see?
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Old 05-21-2004, 03:11 AM   #113
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some screenshots please,these links already doesnt work
As posted on other boards and in other threads

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Sweet shit, he sent 114 joins one day and they paid him for two. That's a fucking crime, I hope whoever belongs to that account and similar ones take action.
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Sweet shit, he sent 114 joins one day and they paid him for two. That's a fucking crime, I hope whoever belongs to that account and similar ones take action.
craaaaaaaaaazy
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Sweet shit, he sent 114 joins one day and they paid him for two. That's a fucking crime, I hope whoever belongs to that account and similar ones take action.
i like the title Automated Sponsor system (ASS)
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Old 05-21-2004, 03:25 AM   #117
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114 joins - 2 joins reported!!
Damn that's a lot
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Old 05-21-2004, 03:27 AM   #118
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Old 05-21-2004, 03:29 AM   #119
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I would like to see some other sponsor's admin pages
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:00 AM   #121
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:02 AM   #122
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damn shame.

can't wait for one of these shaving fucks to get rico'd...then maybe this biz might change a bit for the better.
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:09 AM   #123
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:12 AM   #124
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And we all know that they will get away with it. Either people will still send traffic or they close down, keep all the money the own people and open another program in 6 months.

As usual blah blah meh meh cry cry, topic dies, everybody forgets about it.
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This thread is an exact copy of the the threads that were made the first time they got caught.

Thats months ago. What happened since? Nothing.
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:14 AM   #126
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i would say so...
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:25 AM   #127
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Why on earth was anyone still promoting them? I mean how many programs are going to get their admin sections screenshots posted before people drop their programs like hot potatoes?
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Old 05-21-2004, 06:26 AM   #128
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I'm surprised nobody has posted about this over at the PIB board.

Looks like the owner is running around there chatting...

perhaps he doesn't know what's going on yet?
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This thread is an exact copy of the the threads that were made the first time they got caught.

Thats months ago. What happened since? Nothing.
yea, and i still dont receive my money...

so - they dont shave, they thiefts...
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I'm surprised nobody has posted about this over at the PIB board.

Looks like the owner is running around there chatting...

perhaps he doesn't know what's going on yet?

lol...

these posts deleted right after posting at their board...

as like any other negative posts about those thiefts...
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YYYYYEAAAH RIGHT! Nobody here is gonna sue them.
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Why not put up a sponsor blacklist ? I've seen loads for submitters, but what about sponsors ? Or did I miss it..
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YYYYYEAAAH RIGHT! Nobody here is gonna sue them.
someone should. everyone who was a partner could join in.
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there's not a sponsor blacklist because it's too hard to prove and the threat of legal action is too high. I had something like that going several years ago and sponsors were only posted if there was hardcore proof and the proof was also posted. But, the sponsors have deeper pockets that most of the individual webmasters so they could have filed lawsuits for defamation much easier and forced the company posting the information into bankruptcy.
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there's not a sponsor blacklist because it's too hard to prove and the threat of legal action is too high. I had something like that going several years ago and sponsors were only posted if there was hardcore proof and the proof was also posted. But, the sponsors have deeper pockets that most of the individual webmasters so they could have filed lawsuits for defamation much easier and forced the company posting the information into bankruptcy.
if you set it up as a message board with proper disclaimers you're fine. they'd have to sue the individual then come at you with court papers saying take it down.
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there's not a sponsor blacklist because it's too hard to prove and the threat of legal action is too high. I had something like that going several years ago and sponsors were only posted if there was hardcore proof and the proof was also posted. But, the sponsors have deeper pockets that most of the individual webmasters so they could have filed lawsuits for defamation much easier and forced the company posting the information into bankruptcy.
Sorry there is not one sponsor that would want to go through the process of discovery to sue someone over defamation about shaving.
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i like the title Automated Sponsor system (ASS)
is this an inhouse solution or a third party software?

Automated Sponsor system

Sucks for all those people that was promoting them...
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Some of you guys make it sound like you think they are the only ones doing this.

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Some of you guys make it sound like you think they are the only ones doing this.

the difference is, there's actual proof in this case
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if you set it up as a message board with proper disclaimers you're fine. they'd have to sue the individual then come at you with court papers saying take it down.
It was a message board situation and it did have valid information on it. But when threatened with impending legal action in a state other than where you live (regardless of whether they win or lose) would still cost you a pretty penny so I went ahead and pulled the site.

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Sorry there is not one sponsor that would want to go through the process of discovery to sue someone over defamation about shaving.
As far as a sponsor going through discovery when filing a suit I completely agree with you but like I said the threat alone scares enough people off. If it were run and/or organized by someone with deep enough pockets that a legal suit wouldn't bother them it would work well.
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Damn.
I mean, from the stats posted they convert great! Don't know what kind of traffic was sent from that account, but that's some sweet conversion ratio.
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Some of you guys make it sound like you think they are the only ones doing this.

maybe true but the screenshots belong to them and not some other sponsor !
The topic is PIB and they got caught, maybe next week we'll see someone one else get caught !
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Well damn, now I wish I had stayed up late as usual last night!! But NOOOOOOOOOO, I had to go to bed early!!

I wish I had seen all of this one!!
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I'm sorry but there is absolutely no way those join numbers are accurate. 114 sales on 4000 hits? YEAH SURE! That is impossible. Their sites are nothing fancy and those signup ratios are not possible.
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I'm sorry but there is absolutely no way those join numbers are accurate. 114 sales on 4000 hits? YEAH SURE! That is impossible. Their sites are nothing fancy and those signup ratios are not possible.
it 1:35

right now my best sponsor convert for me 1:29 some days.

also - here not described what kind of hit these hits.

it can be join page hits etc...
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PIB is bringing the site back online. Prolly with some security now. I used to send them traffic, but pulled way back when the numbers on conversions weren't there. So if they were shaving, it turned out to be self defeating.

A statement from PIB is in order, I haven't seen one yet.
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PIB is bringing the site back online. Prolly with some security now. I used to send them traffic, but pulled way back when the numbers on conversions weren't there. So if they were shaving, it turned out to be self defeating.

A statement from PIB is in order, I haven't seen one yet.
hehe

who need their bullshit?

they DONT pay me. one and only important proof for me.

they DONT PAY ME what their stats showing.

i dont care basicaly - shave they or not.

they DONT PAY ME what they show me - money what im earn according to their stats.

they are usual thiefts.

period.
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