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BradM · 05-21-2004, 09:33 AM

Conversion tips.

Trying to make a good thread here, if you are new don't be shy. Ask me about some good ways to convert traffic. I'll tell you whatever I know and hopefully it will help you out.

KRL · 05-21-2004, 09:35 AM

How long will you let a sponsor program test go before you say this one sucks and end it?

A lot of varying opinions on this.

jact · 05-21-2004, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
How long will you let a sponsor program test go before you say this one sucks and end it?

A lot of varying opinions on this.

This is something I battle with endlessly and I'd like advice on it too.

jmarzlak · 05-21-2004, 09:41 AM

help me convert teen softcore TGP traffic

BradM · 05-21-2004, 09:46 AM

Here's the deal.
I have a program up right now and on the first 18 clicks I got a sale. And the PPS is huge.
But now it is at 1:320 on massive targetted traffic.

The thing is I will keep it up for awhile longer because I know it sells. When I will take it down? Not sure.

Also in terms of say TGP or any other type of traffic it COMPLETELY depends on the niche. For example teen for me I expect 1:150 conversions consistant, just because Teen Kelly always did that for me.

But hardcore, I am happy with 1:600-800.

As a general rule I will normally pull the plug on a sponsor who can't convert 1 sale after the 4,000-5,000 click. Because I don't blind traffic, it is all banner or gallery.

That's pretty fair. And let me tell ya, I've had lots of sponsors that are dead... then the last 1,000 clicks make a pile of sales and my ratio turns awesome.

BradM · 05-21-2004, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by jmarzlak
help me convert teen softcore TGP traffic

Let's see your site? I'll take a look.

CrazyNakedChick · 05-21-2004, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
How long will you let a sponsor program test go before you say this one sucks and end it?

A lot of varying opinions on this.

that's exactly what i was going to ask, i hear widely varying advice on this as well.

thanks brad, many of us really appreciate threads like this.

Sly_RJ · 05-21-2004, 09:52 AM

I'm not really concerned about overall conversions. I'm concerned about overall sales. I can super filter, super target traffic and get insane conversions. But what's the point if it eliminates a few extra sales? Bragging rights?

I think it's good to do a lot of testing.

I ran a test a couple months back and the results still baffle me. In March I sent 1500 blind clicks daily to one of my private tours with NO TRIAL, picked up 30 sales. In April I sent those same 1500 blind clicks to a different tour WITH TRIAL, picked up 30 sales.

Any input on that?

emmanuelle · 05-21-2004, 09:54 AM

Have you found anything that converts well enough to convince you to give up your day job?

Chris · 05-21-2004, 09:54 AM

WHat makes people want to see if you convert ?

pradaboy · 05-21-2004, 10:07 AM

what is the best type of adult biz to get in at this time?

Reak · 05-21-2004, 10:15 AM

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by TGPslut
what is the best type of adult biz to get in at this time?

The non-adult kind. Mcdonalds is always hiring... no money in TGP.

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by emmanuelle
Have you found anything that converts well enough to convince you to give up your day job?

Yes. But if I told you it would not be worth as much to me anymore.

Reak · 05-21-2004, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
The non-adult kind. Mcdonalds is always hiring... no money in TGP.

I think that wasnt his question..

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I ran a test a couple months back and the results still baffle me. In March I sent 1500 blind clicks daily to one of my private tours with NO TRIAL, picked up 30 sales. In April I sent those same 1500 blind clicks to a different tour WITH TRIAL, picked up 30 sales.

Any input on that?

Could have been the tour...
Or could help prove a little theory of mine that if someone wants to get in the site bad enough they don't care if there is a trial or not.

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reak
I think that wasnt his question..

Well he wanted to know the best type of adult biz to get into.
We all know the market is super saturated already.

Unless you have a fantastic new concept and a TON of cash to back it up and get started... you'll be working damn hard to get it going.

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JupZChris
WHat makes people want to see if you convert ?

Because i r teh smrter then u.

Reak · 05-21-2004, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Well he wanted to know the best type of adult biz to get into.
We all know the market is super saturated already.

Unless you have a fantastic new concept and a TON of cash to back it up and get started... you'll be working damn hard to get it going.

That would be a better answer for him i think

Sly_RJ · 05-21-2004, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Or could help prove a little theory of mine that if someone wants to get in the site bad enough they don't care if there is a trial or not. [/B]

That's my theory... still testing, I'll have some more accurate stats in a couple months.

Testing is fun. Don't you think?

steffie · 05-21-2004, 10:25 AM

As a webmaster would you offer per click or a recurring %? What do you prefer and why?

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Testing is fun. Don't you think?

Testing for colon cancer is not. Testing stats is.

*shudders at thought of things up his ass*

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
As a webmaster would you offer per click or a recurring %? What do you prefer and why?

Obviously per click, because the amount of traffic that can be sent is monsterous. As an owner you have to have extreme fraud protection measures in place.

Sly_RJ · 05-21-2004, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM

*shudders at thought of things up his ass*

You didn't shudder last night when you were "sitting" on my lap.

aimeesweet · 05-21-2004, 10:28 AM

Brad,
What are some tips for model sites....besides search engine traffic, what do you think converts best for a softcore single girl site?

Thanks
Aimee xoxo

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aimeesweet
Brad,
What are some tips for model sites....besides search engine traffic, what do you think converts best for a softcore single girl site?

Hmmmm, well I don't have a lot of experience with it other than gallery submissions. I used to promote a single girl NN site that way and it converted like mad.

Of course the next best way is to cross sell and partner up with other single girl sites. So you could say "Buy a membership at Annas site and get a membership to GirlX for only $X a month!"

Inside members areas is good.
Paid advertising on SE (adwords.google.com)

Lots of options.

aimeesweet · 05-21-2004, 10:33 AM

Thanks, Brad...I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on the subject...

xoxo Aimee

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:34 AM

Any more takers? Preferrably more hot chicks like Aimee?

steffie · 05-21-2004, 10:35 AM

That makes sense

As a Webmaster would you rather signup on a program which pays you per sale or per recurring?

As an Owner, what do you offer?

Do you shun some billing companies certain companies offer?

Do you rather deal with smaller not well known Amateur Sites or do you prefer going for the big hitters like Lightspeed et al

Thanks for answering my questions

xoxoxo

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steffie
That makes sense

As a Webmaster would you rather signup on a program which pays you per sale or per recurring?

As an Owner, what do you offer?

Do you shun some billing companies certain companies offer?

Do you rather deal with smaller not well known Amateur Sites or do you prefer going for the big hitters like Lightspeed et al

Thanks for answering my questions

xoxoxo

I lean towards PPS these days. Unless I know the site retains from past experience.

Owner - I offer 50% rev and $30 PPS

As for billing companies- I won't deal with some companies based soley on who they process with, yes.

I like dealing with the unpromoted stuff more. LS content is everywhere, but if you have a nice unpromoted fresh site it gives people something new to look at- and best results are usually found this way.

Any time... no problemo. If you have more just hit me up on ICQ.

CrazyNakedChick · 05-21-2004, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aimeesweet
Brad,
What are some tips for model sites....besides search engine traffic, what do you think converts best for a softcore single girl site?

Thanks
Aimee xoxo

aimee, i'll join your program and add you in my exlusive Featured Babe section in my member area of my am site. only 3 other chicks in there now as i only post really pretty all natural babes. if i say i love you my members will love you too.

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:44 AM

CNN: Awesome offer there. The more cross promo you do the better.

Another GREAT idea would be to add her cam feed (if she has one) to an area of the site they can watch for free. But give them the option to buy on her site.

Same with you.

Cam swap feeds are an awesome members area upsell.

CrazyNakedChick · 05-21-2004, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
CNN: Awesome offer there. The more cross promo you do the better.

Another GREAT idea would be to add her cam feed (if she has one) to an area of the site they can watch for free. But give them the option to buy on her site.

Same with you.

Cam swap feeds are an awesome members area upsell.

already thought of this, i need to see what she offers for promo material.

i am very picky about who i post as a Featured Babe on my site. my members expect hotties - natural breasts - etc - and they expect a clean site. i do it this way because they know if i link a chick she's quality and they join. apparently my opinion counts to them.

BradM · 05-21-2004, 10:52 AM

Natural breasts. Boy that sure would add some color to this thread.

Just kidding.

Well aren't you on the ball... shoot I am obscolete!

CrazyNakedChick · 05-21-2004, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
Natural breasts. Boy that sure would add some color to this thread.

Just kidding.

Well aren't you on the ball... shoot I am obscolete!

i've been around awhile, survived the crunch years and continue to grow in leaps and bounds. i'm crazy, not stupid.

(see sig for tits)

blazin · 05-21-2004, 11:14 AM

I was converting at 1:100 from targetted niche traffic to a tour but had to use an fpa (bacause of pop-ups).
Now although I am still sending from the same source I am now getting 1:500 with the fpa in front of the tour

I really thought this would of improved conversions and am confused, can you explain this?

BradM · 05-21-2004, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blazin
I really thought this would of improved conversions and am confused, can you explain this?

I really wouldn't know unless I saw the creative...

blazin · 05-21-2004, 03:17 PM

OK - Thanks Brad - don't really want to post this here and anyway your hour of advice is up

Think I'll just contact the sponsor for a console free tour and see if that helps

05-21-2004, 09:33 AM	#1
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05-21-2004, 09:46 AM	#5
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Here's the deal. I have a program up right now and on the first 18 clicks I got a sale. And the PPS is huge. But now it is at 1:320 on massive targetted traffic. The thing is I will keep it up for awhile longer because I know it sells. When I will take it down? Not sure. Also in terms of say TGP or any other type of traffic it COMPLETELY depends on the niche. For example teen for me I expect 1:150 conversions consistant, just because Teen Kelly always did that for me. But hardcore, I am happy with 1:600-800. As a general rule I will normally pull the plug on a sponsor who can't convert 1 sale after the 4,000-5,000 click. Because I don't blind traffic, it is all banner or gallery. That's pretty fair. And let me tell ya, I've had lots of sponsors that are dead... then the last 1,000 clicks make a pile of sales and my ratio turns awesome.

05-21-2004, 09:54 AM	#9
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	Have you found anything that converts well enough to convince you to give up your day job?

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steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	As a webmaster would you offer per click or a recurring %? What do you prefer and why? __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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aimeesweet Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,917	Brad, What are some tips for model sites....besides search engine traffic, what do you think converts best for a softcore single girl site? Thanks Aimee xoxo

05-21-2004, 10:33 AM	#27
aimeesweet Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,917	Thanks, Brad...I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on the subject... xoxo Aimee

05-21-2004, 10:34 AM	#28
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Any more takers? Preferrably more hot chicks like Aimee?

05-21-2004, 10:35 AM	#29
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	That makes sense As a Webmaster would you rather signup on a program which pays you per sale or per recurring? As an Owner, what do you offer? Do you shun some billing companies certain companies offer? Do you rather deal with smaller not well known Amateur Sites or do you prefer going for the big hitters like Lightspeed et al Thanks for answering my questions xoxoxo __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

05-21-2004, 10:44 AM	#32
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	CNN: Awesome offer there. The more cross promo you do the better. Another GREAT idea would be to add her cam feed (if she has one) to an area of the site they can watch for free. But give them the option to buy on her site. Same with you. Cam swap feeds are an awesome members area upsell.

05-21-2004, 10:52 AM	#34
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Natural breasts. Boy that sure would add some color to this thread. Just kidding. Well aren't you on the ball... shoot I am obscolete!

05-21-2004, 11:14 AM	#36
blazin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,781	I was converting at 1:100 from targetted niche traffic to a tour but had to use an fpa (bacause of pop-ups). Now although I am still sending from the same source I am now getting 1:500 with the fpa in front of the tour I really thought this would of improved conversions and am confused, can you explain this?

05-21-2004, 03:17 PM	#38
blazin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,781	OK - Thanks Brad - don't really want to post this here and anyway your hour of advice is up Think I'll just contact the sponsor for a console free tour and see if that helps