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Old 05-17-2004, 12:39 PM   #1
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My kid kicked another kids ass..

Ok I know violence isn't good but my kid had his first fight today in second grade and he kicked the other kids ass. Do I tell him good job for not taking no shit. (The other kid started it) Or do I tell him he is a jackass for fighting? They need to include a manual with these kid things...
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:48 PM   #2
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you should be glad it's not the other way around
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:50 PM   #3
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Depending on your child's after school and summer schedules .. You might want to consider martial arts for the little guy.

Not only will he learn how to deffend himself, but he'll learn when not to do it. Dicipline at it's finest.

Plus it's fun, and great exercise. Just a thought.
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:52 PM   #4
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Punish him, but forgive him like 10 mins into the punishment
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:53 PM   #5
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Depending on your child's after school and summer schedules .. You might want to consider martial arts for the little guy.

Not only will he learn how to deffend himself, but he'll learn when not to do it. Dicipline at it's finest.

Plus it's fun, and great exercise. Just a thought.
good suggestion
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:53 PM   #6
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tell him good job? that is the first step towards getting him a lift in the prison system
jesus.. they need a manual on parenting
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:54 PM   #8
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:55 PM   #9
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I'd punish him, but not too much.

You want a kid thats willing to defend himself, but doesnt turn into the schoolground bully... at least I would.
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:58 PM   #10
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Depending on your child's after school and summer schedules .. You might want to consider martial arts for the little guy.

Not only will he learn how to deffend himself, but he'll learn when not to do it. Dicipline at it's finest.

Plus it's fun, and great exercise. Just a thought.
He has been in Tae Kwon Do for 3 years...
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He has been in Tae Kwon Do for 3 years...
Does Tae Kwon Do not teach discipline?
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Old 05-17-2004, 01:01 PM   #12
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Tell him now that he's whipped the kids ass to start taking shit from him for protection such as lunch money, etc.
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Old 05-17-2004, 01:01 PM   #13
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It does but...I am thinking that second graders are gonna be second graders. I would expect him to retain some of the dicipline if he were slightly older but with all his classmates standing around and this other kid fucking with him, I think his "family brand" temper got the best of him. He isn't in a whole lot of trouble but I did let him know I approve of him standing up for himself but not by the means in which he took. Plus no Xbox for a week...
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He has been in Tae Kwon Do for 3 years...
Good planning on your part. A bored child is a dangerous one.

Maybe go over the whole thing with his instructor at Tae Kwon Do? See what his thoughts are? They're usually pretty good at dealing with stuff like this.
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Does Tae Kwon Do not teach discipline?
Grade 2 is quite young. Disicpline takes time to master.
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One of the reasons I liked Bruce Lee movies is that he never started it. He never walked in and started punching anyone, he just tried to bring the girl out and then only started fighting when they decided to throw the first punch. So if there is a lesson here, it is that your son waited until their was no other choice. In that situation, Martial Arts doctrine dictates that he can apply enough force to give his combatent the feeling that he has made a mistake and should back down.
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Did he fuck the kid up or did he have enopugh control to defend himself and keep the otehr kid from hurting him.

Either way you should sit down and talk with him about it, make sure understands that defending himself is one thing, but taking it too far and injuring the other is not good.

Dont punish the child if all he did was defend himself.. you may turn the child into the kid he gets his lunch dumped on him daily or the kid who gets thrown in the gym butt nekked in front of the school.

In the end, if you feel he did right byhiself, then take him out to McDonalds and get him a sundae
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Well he was defending himself but he didn't go to the extreme. He hit the kid and knocked him down but no blood or missing teef or anything. The kid he hit is an ass too lol...I hate to be like that but he is. Spoilt little shit...
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Old 05-17-2004, 01:07 PM   #19
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Sign him up for karate or something...
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congrats

I think the martial arts idea sounds like a good way to go.
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tough call... i have 2 daughters so i dont really have to make that call.. it's mom's call =)
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I have a 2 year old daughter also and I am already dreading the boyfriends....WHAT DO I DO...WHO HID THE MANUAL
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Haha GFY is adult webmaster board not place for solving family problems but anyway you need to tell him that it not good to fight with others
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Old 05-17-2004, 01:20 PM   #26
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Haha GFY is adult webmaster board not place for solving family problems but anyway you need to tell him that it not good to fight with others
Well I seen the "Do you shave your balls" thread and figured i was safe...eh well...what's a n00b to know.
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Depending on your child's after school and summer schedules .. You might want to consider martial arts for the little guy.

Not only will he learn how to deffend himself, but he'll learn when not to do it. Dicipline at it's finest.

Plus it's fun, and great exercise. Just a thought.
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tell him good job? that is the first step towards getting him a lift in the prison system
jesus.. they need a manual on parenting
so, are you going to write this magical book?
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so, are you going to write this magical book?
lol...no shit. I will buy the first 5 copies.
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lol...no shit. I will buy the first 5 copies.
I find it funny that the first people trying to dispense parental advice have no kids of their own. Just like these authors of parenting books are often childless themselves.
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Let him know that he can not always solve his problems with ass kicking and that if you go after someone you must be prepared for the other side, that you could get your ass kicked as well.

As long as he knows that he should try everything else posible before he lets thinks escalate then you have to hope he makes the right choices in the heat of a moment!
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Ok...I guess I'm the only one on this board that feels this way, but I don't think you should tell him he did a good thing.
If you tell him that it was ok, because the other kid started it, then you're only promoting violence.
You should tell him that he shouldn't have hit the kid...explain that kids can be mean sometimes, but he should always go tell someone of authority what is going on. If you tell him that he shouldn't have hit the kid, then this behavior could continue.
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Ok...I guess I'm the only one on this board that feels this way, but I don't think you should tell him he did a good thing.
If you tell him that it was ok, because the other kid started it, then you're only promoting violence.
You should tell him that he shouldn't have hit the kid...explain that kids can be mean sometimes, but he should always go tell someone of authority what is going on. If you tell him that he shouldn't have hit the kid, then this behavior could continue.
LOL thats like saying to your kid "I want you to get beat up daily, so go tell the teacher when anyone makes fun of you"
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Ok...I guess I'm the only one on this board that feels this way, but I don't think you should tell him he did a good thing.
If you tell him that it was ok, because the other kid started it, then you're only promoting violence.
You should tell him that he shouldn't have hit the kid...explain that kids can be mean sometimes, but he should always go tell someone of authority what is going on. If you tell him that he shouldn't have hit the kid, then this behavior could continue.
obviously you have no kids of your own
while I'm not a fan of violence, if he just runs and tattles everytime someone starts a fight, he's going to get his ass kicked harder the next time.

I've taught my oldest son to stand up for himself, but that doesn't always mean beating the shit out of the other kid. Sometimes talking can go a long ways. A kid that he nearly got into a fight with last year is now his best friend.

It's not always easy to teach your kid to be strong and stand up for themselves without resorting to violence.

While I wouldn't congradulate him on the victory, I would congradulate him on standing up for himself and explain why fighting isn't the answer.

If one of the GFY parental experts want to write that magical book, I'll buy the first copy...
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tell him that he was good doing it in self defense, but if you catch him starting any fights hes in deep shit.
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I guess I have to be super detailed here lol.
I didn't mean that if another second grader calls him a name or something to go tell someone...I mean if things are so bad that kids are swinging at each other, to tell someone.
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dont ground or yell at him for it... the other kid started it which means your kid isnt the trouble maker.. if your kid was starting shit then you give it to him, but being that he was protecting himself and stood up to the bully you pat him on the back and support him... if you ground him he will only be afraid to fight next time, and you dont want your kid to take a beating because he dont want to get grounded again... tell him even though fighting is bad and you do not approve of it, he did the right thing for not taking shit... just dont yell at him over it man, just think if you were in his shoes, the kid was picking on him, prolly threw the first punch and you tore him a new asshole... just my
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Tell Him that now that he has a good reputation, he could charge other kids for protection!
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tell him like it is, fighting should be your last resort, but if you need to defend yourself, you do what you have to do to protect yourself
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You should praise him, congratulate him on his first victory, and then reward him. This is Parenting 101 dude, you don't want him to grow up to be a pussy.
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You should praise him, congratulate him on his first victory, and then reward him. This is Parenting 101 dude, you don't want him to grow up to be a pussy.
Thing is his dad's a bigger fuckin punk than he is.
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Ok...I guess I'm the only one on this board that feels this way, but I don't think you should tell him he did a good thing.
If you tell him that it was ok, because the other kid started it, then you're only promoting violence.
You should tell him that he shouldn't have hit the kid...explain that kids can be mean sometimes, but he should always go tell someone of authority what is going on. If you tell him that he shouldn't have hit the kid, then this behavior could continue.
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